Good Evening

[Guest SteveEscort]

Some may elect to use the "report post" button for those comments they feel cross the line or may even message the owner/admin to protest something written.

I did that on four occasions on posts that directly attacked me or made fun of me

I DID NOT GET A SINGLE REPLY OR ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF IT

That button is as useful as a straight man at a lesbian orgy

[MsAnn]

While Wayout is accurate in his summations, the bottom line is, it's Hoss and Little Joe's ranch and they hire and fire as they see fit. Draker is their little "board darling" and it takes a lot of shit to hit the fan before they will send him on vacation. Is it fair, well no, but that's the way it is, and not you or anyone else is going to change that. So you have two choices, stay away or go back and just deal with it. I would go back and just learn to play the game a little better, and I would never let anyone run me off an anonymous Internet site, that just crazy.

As for Draker, she is a deeply disturbed vengeful, vindictive, sick mother fucker. And that is likely not to change either. There has got to be something twisted and deeply wrong inside to carry that much hatred for someone that he has never met. Raising the white flag and asking for a truce, is just gasoline on the fire. She ain't a normal person, at least not the kind you are used to dealing with.

Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKHUGvde7KU

[AdamSmith]

As for Draker, she is a deeply disturbed vengeful, vindictive, sick mother fucker. And that is likely not to change either. There has got to be something twisted and deeply wrong inside to carry that much hatred for someone that he has never met. Raising the white flag and asking for a truce, is just gasoline on the fire. She ain't a normal person, at least not the kind you are used to dealing with.

[MsAnn]

I feel a little like Bette Davis, saucy, sassy, and a little bit naughty.

[Guest SteveEscort]

While Wayout is accurate in his summations, the bottom line is, it's Hoss and Little Joe's ranch and they hire and fire as they see fit. Draker is their little "board darling" and it takes a lot of shit to hit the fan before they will send him on vacation. Is it fair, well no, but that's the way it is, and not you or anyone else is going to change that. So you have two choices, stay away or go back and just deal with it. I would go back and just learn to play the game a little better, and I would never let anyone run me off an anonymous Internet site, that just crazy.

As for Draker, she is a deeply disturbed vengeful, vindictive, sick mother fucker. And that is likely not to change either. There has got to be something twisted and deeply wrong inside to carry that much hatred for someone that he has never met. Raising the white flag and asking for a truce, is just gasoline on the fire. She ain't a normal person, at least not the kind you are used to dealing with.

Sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.>

When my forced holiday is over I'm gonna look in and not touch. A bit like window shopping. Sad thing is the participants at the circus are quite pleasant, as I've found with the numerous emails, but they were a bit frightened of the rednecks running the show. I always imagined Daddykins to be an old bloke with dungarees and a long unkept beard. I didn't even know Deej existed until I undermined his authority, which didn't take much doing. The general consensus from the emails is that the site is run by a man who thinks he's God and can't take criticism and he accepts bribes (sorry forum upkeep contributions) from the stats and facts man who seems to think he's an authority on escort statistics when all he really does is just copy and paste them from somewhere else. He either posts stats and facts, resurrects posts from 4 years back to be a bitch or blatantly slags off other escorts and claims he's being misunderstood again. There's a term for that in England. It's called Nut Job

[Suckrates]

When my forced holiday is over I'm gonna look in and not touch. A bit like window shopping. Sad thing is the participants at the circus are quite pleasant, as I've found with the numerous emails, but they were a bit frightened of the rednecks running the show. I always imagined Daddykins to be an old bloke with dungarees and a long unkept beard. I didn't even know Deej existed until I undermined his authority, which didn't take much doing. The general consensus from the emails is that the site is run by a man who thinks he's God and can't take criticism and he accepts bribes (sorry forum upkeep contributions) from the stats and facts man who seems to think he's an authority on escort statistics when all he really does is just copy and paste them from somewhere else. He either posts stats and facts, resurrects posts from 4 years back to be a bitch or blatantly slags off other escorts and claims he's being misunderstood again. There's a term for that in England. It's called Nut Job

So you think it fine for Daddys subjects to sit by quietly and let the injustice occur, just so they can continue to participate on the site without a target on their backs ? That's simply rubbish... I have the least respect for people like that. And dont be fooled steve by those lovely emails you received from the Daddy members. I too received THOSE emails from those people, many of whom were also instrumental in the many witch hunts and attacks against me while I was there, which finally led to my decision to leave.

I am jjkrkwood, and you and I spoke many times about the climate of the site and the demeanor of the members while I was till there. Most of those lovely blokes are just 2-faced ass-kissers, and you can take their words and wipe your arse with them....

Whether Draker is nuts or not, eccentric, irrational, obsessed, possessed or the like, he is basically a spineless sock puppet with Daddys arm up his butt, and his behavior is carefully "controlled" there, as you can see... When Daddy and deej have had enough of his antics, he's given a respite, until the time they are again ready for some Draker entertainment.....

[Guest SteveEscort]

So you think it fine for Daddys subjects to sit by quietly and let the injustice occur, just so they can continue to participate on the site without a target on their backs ? That's simply rubbish... I have the least respect for people like that. And dont be fooled steve by those lovely emails you received from the Daddy members. I too received THOSE emails from those people, many of whom were also instrumental in the many witch hunts and attacks against me while I was there, which finally led to my decision to leave.-

Errrrm hang on a second, I never said that, I never said it was fine, contrary I was quite stern in my reply to last nights "lovely" email by questioning why not one single person stood up for me publically yet want to message me privately and say how awfully I was treated. I have no intentions of going back there to be "abused some more" for their entertainment value. It's simply not going to happen. They're going to have to find another toy to play with. I have replied to the emails and private messages on here in the spirit in which they were sent. I am courteous to a fault as many of you can already work out from my four years of posting on forums like this and by the way I conduct myself on twitter, on my blog and on here but I am not stupid and I am not a pushover. I realise some people will message me to stir, some of them may have been sent by the people who made my life a misery just to find out my thoughts and feelings and I've not replied to any of them with anything I wouldn't publish on an open forum. I've been a gay escort for a long long long time, one of those longest established in England and I didn't survive this long by believing bullshit

I am jjkrkwood, and you and I spoke many times about the climate of the site and the demeanor of the members while I was till there. Most of those lovely blokes are just 2-faced ass-kissers, and you can take their words and wipe your arse with them....

Yes I worked out who you were on the first day and we did indeed discuss on many occasions who was causing trouble there. If you recall at one time I was so fed up of giving other escorts advice on things they asked for advice on, to then be blanked by the same people yet if a potentional client spoke up with advice they were all over them like a rash. In the end I stopped giving other escorts advice, it was pointless. They didn't want the advice in the first place and didn't appreciate it when someone, with a decades experience as an escort, took time out to help them.

Whether Draker is nuts or not, eccentric, irrational, obsessed, possessed or the like, he is basically a spineless sock puppet with Daddys arm up his butt, and his behavior is carefully "controlled" there, as you can see... When Daddy and deej have had enough of his antics, he's given a respite, until the time they are again ready for some Draker entertainment.....

This became apparent when I used the report post button. I was advised to do this and it was totally pointless. No one acknowledged the report request. Why have a forum and with moderators and administrators when you're not going to moderate or administrate. I was encouraged to use the facility and when I did, they didn't bother their arses anyway.

[Suckrates]

This became apparent when I used the report post button. I was advised to do this and it was totally pointless. No one acknowledged the report request. Why have a forum and with moderators and administrators when you're not going to moderate or administrate. I was encouraged to use the facility and when I did, they didn't bother their arses anyway.

Most of these site are created "for the public entertainment", however Daddy's site is created for Daddy, simply so that an old, fat, unnattractive man can get close to hot boys, get some Free nookie, and have them cower at his feet solely for their publicity. When the members of Daddy finally realize they are supporting a singular cause, the tables may turn. But thats not about to happen because the dysfunctional troop that resides there need each other. They are birds of a feather who believe Daddy is offering them something special. They wouldnt get "laid for pay" if it werent for Daddy.... and Daddy gets a new pair of overalls, straw hat and a trip to Palm Springs and Vegas every year. !

[lookin]

To Wayout's most excellent list, I'll add one more reason people might not come to the defense of someone in a flame war on an anonymous website: It's ineffective at best, and incendiary at worst.

In a decade of infesting these sites, I've never once seen a response to a troublemaker, directly or indirectly, bring anything but more trouble. The only thing I've ever seen work is complete indifference to the miscreant. There's just nothing worse for someone looking to stir the pot than to find the pot completely empty.

So I find it a bit puzzling that folks still think the way to end a flame war is to add a few more flames, if not their own then some borrowed from a so-called defender. If someone can link to a single thread where that approach has worked, I'll gladly admit the error of my ways.

I can find threads, lots of them, where someone who's been attacked turns around and attacks the attacker. That's fine, but it serves a different purpose from bringing an end to the conflict. It may make the counter-attacker feel more powerful, it may release some testosterone, and it may provide some entertainment for those who enjoy a train wreck. But it won't end the kerfuffle. Not permanently, anyway, though it will for the duration of the inevitable time out.

Personally, if someone gets a kick out of prolonging a state of war on a website, I'm not about to get in his way. In my earlier days, I tried suggesting disengagement as a way to end the hostilities, but I can't think of a single case when the advice was taken. So, rather than turn into a nudge, I figure benign bemusement remains my best bet.

[Guest SteveEscort]

Personally, if someone gets a kick out of prolonging a state of war on a website, I'm not about to get in his way.

Never once did I expect someone to defend me. I can look after myself but what I have noticed is the amount of guys who have emailed me saying how dreadful my treatment was.

Well if it was so dreadful, why did you stand back and watch it

If an old lady was being harassed in the street would you stand back and watch it for the entertainment value and then say to her, "wasn't that dreadful". No you wouldn't so don't come to me in retrospect and say the same

It's annoying, unwelcome and downright rude.

[Suckrates]

To Wayout's most excellent list, I'll add one more reason people might not come to the defense of someone in a flame war on an anonymous website: It's ineffective at best, and incendiary at worst.

In a decade of infesting these sites, I've never once seen a response to a troublemaker, directly or indirectly, bring anything but more trouble. The only thing I've ever seen work is complete indifference to the miscreant. There's just nothing worse for someone looking to stir the pot than to find the pot completely empty.

So I find it a bit puzzling that folks still think the way to end a flame war is to add a few more flames, if not their own then some borrowed from a so-called defender. If someone can link to a single thread where that approach has worked, I'll gladly admit the error of my ways.

I can find threads, lots of them, where someone who's been attacked turns around and attacks the attacker. That's fine, but it serves a different purpose from bringing an end to the conflict. It may make the counter-attacker feel more powerful, it may release some testosterone, and it may provide some entertainment for those who enjoy a train wreck. But it won't end the kerfuffle. Not permanently, anyway, though it will for the duration of the inevitable time out.

Personally, if someone gets a kick out of prolonging a state of war on a website, I'm not about to get in his way. In my earlier days, I tried suggesting disengagement as a way to end the hostilities, but I can't think of a single case when the advice was taken. So, rather than turn into a nudge, I figure benign bemusement remains my best bet.

Moi would never think to throw fuel on a fire, unless I really wanted to burn the house down. Oh wait, I see a few old houses over here.......

[BigK]

When my forced holiday is over I'm gonna look in and not touch. A bit like window shopping. Sad thing is the participants at the circus are quite pleasant, as I've found with the numerous emails, but they were a bit frightened of the rednecks running the show. I always imagined Daddykins to be an old bloke with dungarees and a long unkept beard. I didn't even know Deej existed until I undermined his authority, which didn't take much doing. The general consensus from the emails is that the site is run by a man who thinks he's God and can't take criticism and he accepts bribes (sorry forum upkeep contributions) from the stats and facts man who seems to think he's an authority on escort statistics when all he really does is just copy and paste them from somewhere else. He either posts stats and facts, resurrects posts from 4 years back to be a bitch or blatantly slags off other escorts and claims he's being misunderstood again. There's a term for that in England. It's called Nut Job

As a public service... the english to american translation of Nut Job is ... Nut Job.

[TotallyOz]

Most of these site are created "for the public entertainment", however Daddy's site is created for Daddy, simply so that an old, fat, unnattractive man can get close to hot boys, get some Free nookie, and have them cower at his feet solely for their publicity. When the members of Daddy finally realize they are supporting a singular cause, the tables may turn. But thats not about to happen because the dysfunctional troop that resides there need each other. They are birds of a feather who believe Daddy is offering them something special. They wouldnt get "laid for pay" if it werent for Daddy.... and Daddy gets a new pair of overalls, straw hat and a trip to Palm Springs and Vegas every year. !

That may be what it has come to in the end, but initially, it was started to try to leverage the mid 6 figures that Hooboy made yearly from the site. That was the initial thrust when Daddy tried to just confiscate the original domain name from Hooboy. That did not work out like he wanted as I had access and I locked him out to let Hoo's estate determine the fate of the site. That did not work out as I planned as I wanted Hoo's boyfriend to get the site. I didn't realize the family was a bunch of homophobic twats whose religion allowed them to make money for a few years and then just close the site. But, in the beginning, Daddy was not trying to just meet him boys. He had Richy Rich on his mind.

[wayout]

Very interesting to learn a bit of the backstory from someone who was there at the time of HooBoy's passing.

I have to wonder why Daddy is always wanting for donations and seems to lack financial resources when the site at one time was providing HooBoy a mid six figure income as Oz indicates? Other than the actual owner, has anything really changed from the days when it was operated by HooBoy?

I am admittedly fairly ignorant of how these things work but I would assume (very dangerous of course) that it is all related to advertising and traffic, both of which seem to be healthy over there. Is it a case of an old woman with a virginia ham under each arm complaining to everyone she has no bread? Or is there a real drop in revenue due to some other possible reason? Maybe Oz could speculate (unless he knows for sure through his sources in North Korea).

[Suckrates]

. Is it a case of an old woman with a virginia ham under each arm complaining to everyone she has no bread?

Daddy obviously doesnt appreciate THAT comment !

WHAT Ham ????

[AdamSmith]

Also: some are born for sales & business development, while others are relegated to the back-office tech support function for good reason.

[Suckrates]

Miss Stevie, one would think as a new participant here you would try to acclimate yourself in a friendly, non-confrontational

manner ?

But you apparently havent chosen that route as you have resorted to the Draker technique of pvt message for harrasssment, the SAME harrassment you say you endured over at Daddy's. Well I dont appreciate it coming from YOU.....

You sent me a message which questioned a PUBLIC post I made, to which I gave a polite reply, which you did NOT agree with, and your response then is "DEAR ME, you are just like all the rest of them"..... and then you delete me.... Seems you are more like Draker than you care to admit, huh bloke ?

Well my dear, you certainly havent made a good First impression, and I wont lose any sleep of being deleted by you, but I must tell you sir, you have chosen the WRONG person to FUCK WITH !

You have sought asylum HERE..... you need US, we dont need YOU, or your constant whining about being mistreated and un-supported by Daddy & Co.

[Suckrates]

[wayout]

Miss Stevie, one would think as a new participant here you would try to acclimate yourself in a friendly, non-confrontational

manner ?

But you apparently havent chosen that route as you have resorted to the Draker technique of pvt message for harrasssment, the SAME harrassment you say you endured over at Daddy's. Well I dont appreciate it coming from YOU.....

You sent me a message which questioned a PUBLIC post I made, to which I gave a polite reply, which you did NOT agree with, and your response then is "DEAR ME, you are just like all the rest of them"..... and then you delete me.... Seems you are more like Draker than you care to admit, huh bloke ?

Well my dear, you certainly havent made a good First impression, and I wont lose any sleep of being deleted by you, but I must tell you sir, you have chosen the WRONG person to FUCK WITH !

You have sought asylum HERE..... you need US, we dont need YOU, or your constant whining about being mistreated and un-supported by Daddy & Co.

ohhhh....this is going to get interesting

[AdamSmith]

[wayout]

I just noticed that Steve is now listed as a guest and no longer listed as a member...I assume that means he has left us (voluntarily or otherwise) after a relatively short stay.

[MsAnn]

That's just a whole lot a crazy to come up in here

and try to get all up in Grandma Suckrate's grill

[Suckrates]

I just noticed that Steve is now listed as a guest and no longer listed as a member...I assume that means he has left us (voluntarily or otherwise) after a relatively short stay.

WOW, I am Good !

[Suckrates]

That's just a whole lot a crazy to come up in here

and try to get all up in Grandma Suckrate's grill

Whichever you meant Annie girl, you aint whistlin Dixie.........

[TotallyOz]

He was not deleted by admins so he must have deleted his own account.