Members Popular Post gap1972 Posted December 23, 2014 Author Members Popular Post Posted December 23, 2014 Rainy since 2pm, caught a break around 6 heading to Lagoa. Is it the holiday shopping? Metro is super packed. Most people should be off work by now. Had to take a different route today, thankfully the new line4 is not too crowded and also connect to line1 which goes to Santa Cruz where Lagoa is. Arrived at 6:50. Perhaps it's the rain, the place is a little empty. Monday has a special 35R entry fee special if paid by cash or debit, so it should be a good night. The boy parade between 7 and 8 didn't happen tonight. Rain stared to come down hard from 7. There is one cute white twink, the way he walks is turning me off a little. He went with some client around 7:30. Another white jock type is also quite cute. He is a little bigger for my taste, but as he stands in the locker room chatting with other boys, his friendly smile really draws me in. The other dark slim boy I saw in 117 a week ago is now in Lagoa. I had an ok session with him last year before Patagonia. He tried to chat me up, impressed he learned some English in the past year. But I had the white jock boy as a preferred target tonight. His name is Jesse. He finally stopped chatting with a group of boys and walked around looking for business. We caught eyes and settled on details and price. He is a good kisser, great start. Claims to be top first, then said he will bottom if I pay him 150 since he rarely does it. This is a negative but he says it with an appolgetic smile and doesn't seem like he is lying just to get the client, so I decided to go with him. The boy is eager to please, and probably str8 since he asked for a room with TV and now keeps steal peeks of the str8 porn now and then. He gives great head and rims like eating pussy, I am just guessing here. Very nice. As we get to fucking, his hole is really tight, even a finger makes him grimacing. But he doesn't try to get out of it like some boys by moving away, it takes some time to penetrate, it apparently hurts and the faces he makes are hot and funny. He asks me to go slow and we tried for a minute or so. He really hates it and eventually asked me to stop. He smiles apologetically and starts to blow me again, asking me to come on his chest. I like his attitude and doesn't mind the alternative ending. It is a pretty good session. Love a boy that's honest and pleasant all the way through. Would be happy to do a repeat. Satisfied. Head back to hotel around 9. Rain is coming down non-stop. Glad I got the tourist things done last week. Rain all night, great for sleep. And all day tomorrow. Which sauna should I go tomorrow? msclelovr, flipao, TotallyOz and 3 others 6 Quote
Members gap1972 Posted December 24, 2014 Author Members Posted December 24, 2014 Christmas Eve Eve, I was a little skeptical after the light attendance last night, will there be more people? At least the rain tapered off. After an afternoon shower, only drizzle around 4:30. Head off at 5:45. Metro was not as crazy as yesterday. Lagoa is closed tomorrow, so I decide to give it another try, very happy with Jesse last night. As I change to line 1, A very cute boy got on and stood right beside me. Slim, looks like a college drop out, puppy eyes, pink lips, dark hair and neatly trimmed armpit from under his yellow Tshirt, gostoso! I start to daydream but he didn't get off at Santa Cruz 6:20, busier than yesterday, so it was probably just the rain, the holiday slump hasn't started yet. There was a new hot dark Latino boy, noted for later. Lie down on one of the lounge chairs checking out what's available. A few boys from yesterday arrived in the next half hour. There are a few new faces. The slim white boy with a little bit thuggish walk is sitting beside a client stroking his dick, trying to seal the deal. It is huge, slim white boys often have some shockers in their pants a deal was made quickly and the customer went to get keys while the boy continue stroking his huge cock waiting. They soon went upstairs. A few minutes later, Jesse walking down with a customer and another boy, a threesome likely. He saw me and come to say hello with that smile which lightens up his face. He tried to convince me to go for a threesome as well, but I am not attracted to his buddy. We sat together for the next 10 minutes, Jesse is doing all the right things, a little chitchat, kisses here and there, biting my neck a few times, a quick leg massage. How can I say no to this, right? We went to the sauna to relax a little more, then shower and head upstairs. As last time, he is eager to please and having fun doing it. This time he decides to try getting fucked on his back. It worked much better than last time. He admits he is not a good bottom, but he sure is willing to try. The faces he makes are so hot! After a few minutes slow fucking, he couldn't take it any more and asks me to pull it out, instead I speed up for a few seconds, he protests and laughs in between grimaces, yelled out a few portugese words followed by English "mother fucker" as I let him off the hook. We both laughs and he says, now I fuck you. We laugh some more and I ash him to speak slowly in portuguese "mother fucker" just for fun. Then like last time, he asks me to sit on his face and finish on his chest. It's funny how he would stop and steal some peeks of the porn where 3 girls are getting dirty with each other. I didn't ask him to come, but he's too horny and came anyways. We showered and I asked him how old he is and if he has a girlfriend. He is 20 and proudly straight, he points out the girl he likes most on the TV. I joke with him that he is getting better "faz passivo", he laughs and vehemently states that he is not passivo, then getting behind me and pretend he will fuck me. I love boys who are not just trying to get it over with. Jesse is so far the best in bed, so much fun, even though he is not a very good bottom. Again satisfied, I stayed a little longer to check out the space. It's karaoke night, the cute Latino boy is singing, fairly well and very friendly smile. I should catch him next time. Jesse is friend with him and made some noise while the boy was singing, who flipped him off in return. The management got rid of the TV room and expanded the bar area. There is a new porn room in the old massage area? The slim white boy hooked up with another client. Young, white, slim, huge dick and decent looking is a winning formula here. Checked out not long after, a happy customer. There was a drink charged on my bill which I didn't order, once I point it out, the cashier quickly removed it. Regular week day entrance is 60, 50 if not using credit card. There was still only light drizzle outside, a cool 20 degrees, many brazilians already put on sweaters At 8:30, the shopping center at Santa Cruz is still crowded with shoppers. A hot Latino boy in red Tshirt and Santa hat is on the same car in the metro, very easy on the eyes Love São Paulo! flipao, lookin, axiom2001 and 1 other 4 Quote
Members Gotti Posted December 25, 2014 Members Posted December 25, 2014 Gap1972, you are doing an outstanding job of putting São Paulo back in the map, it's been Years since a member spents time in the city and reports accordingly. It seems that the city hás also become a tale of 2 saunas, with the subway making Fragata viable again. It will make a lot easier for the boys and the customers and a new reality may arise, if the owner figures he is in the sex business instead of show business and invest the coming income on the boys and not on drag queens! What about, the boy that goes up with a client 3 times or more gets in free next time,The attractive boys gonna love it, they will be back and customers will also approve. But anyway, since you seem to know Fragata really well, is it true that they allow women? Havê you seen any? Are they there to get the boys (commpetition!) or are they prostitutes offering an option to bissexuals? I saw one once (2years ago) thinking it was a TV, but certainly wasn't People who told me are positive about it, I'm trying to figure out the score. Thanks for Your insight! axiom2001 1 Quote
Members Gotti Posted December 25, 2014 Members Posted December 25, 2014 Onde thing I forgot to add about the tale of 2 saunas (in SP). The other and most iportant onde ,LAGOA, trancends the sauna concept it is more like a demi-monde situation. By that I mean, The extraordinary looking guys that you see over there on occasion don' really go up with customers, They are there fully clothed, shirtless at best, are looking for a steady situation, if they don't make eye contact with you (they probably won't), all it means is that they don't think you are sugar daddy material.The bulk of fashion industry in Brasil is located in SP, agencies, magazines, designers,models etc. Demi-monde is no only accepted, but expected. ihpguy, flipao and MsGuy 3 Quote
Members gap1972 Posted December 25, 2014 Author Members Posted December 25, 2014 Hi, Gotti, I have been hitting São Paulo 3 years in a row. Talking about Sauna, it's my favorite destination by a mile. The boys here are more "normal" look, tight abs vs six packs, flat chests vs pumped ones, I much prefer this type. Of course, there is not much else to see here, especially if one doesn't speak portuguese. I went to a few museums here, none is of much interest to me. Rio, on the hand, have plenty places to kill time during the day. I do like the beaches here better, much more suitable for a day out, swim, snack and nap, but you can't get to them without a car, about 2 hours from the city. I have never seen a woman in Fragata. But I have only been there 5 or 6 times in total. I do agree they should care more about the boys than shows. And body search, come on. I never visited a sauna here on Christmas Eve, so I was rather curious to give it a try. While Lagoa closes on 24th and 31st, Fragata opens on both days with reduced hours (till 8?). But friend msged me, insists on showing me Japanese town here for lunch. He has been such a fantastic host, I can't say no. Happy to foot the bill for lunch, but coming from Toronto, I have no good words for the chinese food in São Paulo. Friend is not eager to go home helping for Christmas dinner, so we walk around for another hour as he points out all the decayed buildings and complains about the homeless and how the city has become a more and more dangerous place to live. I have to agree with him, Rio feels much cleaner and safer. But Rio has all the pretty beaches, so it's not a fair competition. Full and tired getting back to the hotel, it was already 3:45. Debating whether to head out again, the clouds are rather menacing. It rains a lot, everyday this week. Decided to skip it, I also never tried on Christmas Day, so I will go tomorrow. Long story short, I didn't go today either as it was raining heavily between 4-6, didn't stop until 7. Worst timing. I did try heading to the bus stop for fragata, still some drizzle and streets were very empty for holidays. So is the bus stop. I felt rather silly going, so I turned back. As i walked through the park, which is well lit, a guy was running away from The park with two guys yelling and chasing after him. There are decent and very cheap Hotels in republica park area, also only steps to the metro, so I like this area. But I do feel like there are more homeless people around over the years. What a pity. Friend is having another party tomorrow. I really haven't hit sauna too often this time. Maybe it's that I am getting older, after two nights in a row with Jesse in Lagoa, I am not really feeling that horny. Will report again when I hit sauna the next time. axiom2001 and flipao 2 Quote
Members gap1972 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Members Posted December 28, 2014 Wifi went out in hotel in the afternoon yesterday, didn't come back until noon today Made up an excuse on Friday to skip the dinner with friend so I can hit sauna, feeling guilty. Arrived Fragata around 5:45. It's already in full swing, but not many boys, more customers. Sat down close to entrance checking things out. Not any new faces today Ricardo from last year was here, bad haircut though, maybe. The gorgeous Greek looking boy Igor was in, but lousy in bed, no repeat. Fragata became my favorite last year for the number of twinks on offering, but not that much this year. The boy parade didn't happen, until 7pm, only 3 more boys checked in, one is an ok white twink, not very good looking, still got grabbed quickly by two daddies. I am debating maybe I should head to Lagoa now. 7:15, still nothing happens. Perhaps the body check is driving away some boys, or Friday is just not a good night. I checked out heading to Lagoa. Metro line 4 is a short 5 minutes walk, as long as you don't get lost. Remember you are taking the street starting with "p", the cross road has the name of the metro stop. From the station, look both ways, on one side you see a gas station and a lot more highrises in the distance, go the OTHER direction. São Paulo metro is fantastic, clean and reliable. Many eye candies too checked in Lagoa at 8:10. Busy, not as busy as last time though. I am hoping to catch the dark boy singing karaoke the other night. Or Jesse for a 3peat, but that would be a little silly, I do like him a lot the dark boy was not around tonight. Not many new faces, noticed a few I saw in previous years but not during last visit. Then Jesse walked by with an Asian customer he is trying to hookup with. He saw me and gave me a smile and thumb up. Later he stopped by to say a quick hello while checking something on his phone. I ask him if he has facebook, he does and added me as a friend. Then he excused himself to reconnect with the other Asian client he was talking too, left me with his phone to check out his photos! I already like the boy a lot especially when he smiles, seeing his everyday photos makes me fall in love Jesse came back to say he needs a moment, he made the deal with the client, he asks me to wait for him with that gorgeous smile. It's almost 9, I think it's too late for the night, and I want him fresh. As he went away, I already start to plan getting him in my hotel the next day. Walked around for another 30 minutes or so, a couple more boys checked in even at 9pm! But no one really triggers my fancy. almost drooling over Jesse's facebook photos probably plays a factor too as I check out, Jesse just came down after his session with the client, he raised his hands over his head as he saw me leaving. I told him, amaha Once I got back in the hotel and showered, comfortable in bed, I msged Jesse on facebook to ask him for a hotel visit before he goes to sauna Saturday. He quickly responded and we hammered out the details. My hotel is right at republica park, a gay bar is cross the street. Tons of people just stand outside on the street until 2 or 3am chatting. I went for a walk around mid night just to see. The bar crowd is mostly older folks, not many young guys. The park is well lit, shame the homeless people sleeping there day and night is ruining it. Still I can see a couple rent boys hanging around, one is quite cute. I am not going to tempt anything here with my poor portuguese of course. A happy night of sleep knowing Jesse will be here tomorrow Just before the time we agreed upon (3pm), wifi went out in hotel. Fuck! This means we won't be able to communicate much. And I haven't told Jesse my room number. I went down to reception to tell the lady there I am expecting a friend, please send him up. She is very nice and understanding. But she has no clue how to fix the wifi, I pick up the word amanh, so it's not getting fixed anytime soon Jesse arrived at 3:30, on time for brazil boys he is wearing penguin from head to toe, light blue shirt, white shorts, blue shoes. I loved the shirt when I saw him in it on facebook, this is so much hotter than just a towel! He is as sweet as before, and language barrier doesn't really hurt too much as we had a great time! He let me fuck him in two different positions this time, but still can't take me to the end. He smiles apologetically asking me to come on his chest again. I pushed him a little further asking if I can come in his mouth. He doesn't like the idea, but I am paying him a lot more than in sauna, so he said he will do it for 50 more as long as he doesn't have to swallow. It is so freaking hot looking at him opening his mouth waiting, and it's both hilarious and super hot watching him jumping out the bed once he tasted it and ran into the bathroom with some gagging noises being a nice boy, he didn't spit it on the carpet, but in his hands on the way. I was laughing hard standing behind him while he rinse his mouth frantically with hot water and helped squirting out some tooth paste on his palm which he spread on his tongue. Adorable After we cleaned up, he insisited I put on his cloth as I said I love them. He helped me pull the sleeves up as the shirt is too big for me like a nice salesman. Such a sweet boy. He loves taking selfies, and asked me to take a few photos for him on the balconyn his iphone. Lovely photos, I took a few on my ipod as well. As we went downstairs together to send him out and saying goodbye in front of the hotel, a homeless person walked by and I assume asking for money. I told him I don't understand portuguese. He wouldn't give up and keep mumbling, to my surprise, Jesse helped me explain to the guy with a smile that I don't speak portuguese and pulled out a 10R bill giving it to the homeless guy to shut him up! What a nice boy, I am very surprised and more in love with him now. It amazes me how open minded on sex brazilian boys are. Like Maikon from 2 years ago, they are both straight, but ok with having sex with men for money. Jesse doesn't even look like he really needs the money wearing brand name clothes and using an iPhone5. He is from a suburb neighborhood of São Paulo and in college, I guess he is cool making through college in style this way. And I feel lucky he feels that way I still have two nights left, and I am already a happy man even if I leave today axiom2001, flipao, lookin and 1 other 4 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted December 28, 2014 Members Posted December 28, 2014 snip snip 7:15, still nothing happens. Perhaps the body check is driving away some boys, or Friday is just not a good night. You are correct on both points. The body searching is aggravating to some of the garotos and Friday is not usually a good night at Fragata. Tuesday and Sunday are the best nights at Fragata. Some of the garotos told me they don't like being searched. Some told me that being searched is a big influence in their avoiding Fragata and, instead, going to Lagoa to meet clients. If you visit Lagoa you will see that it is much busier than it was prior to when the Fragata garoto searches began. Also, at Lagoa, you will see many of the garotos that were formerly seen at Fragata. I previously commented on the searches after I noticed two garotos (that entered just before me one night), were not searched. At that time, I was told the searches were discontinued. However, for some foolish reason, the searches resumed. If a garoto wants to conceal a prohibited item, the garoto can ask a client to bring the item into the sauna for the garoto. Also, depending on what the item is, the garoto can conceal the prohibited item. Searching garotos is unproductive and creates bad will. I recall three other popular rent-boy saunas in Sao Paulo that began searching garotos a few years back (Alterosas, Bois Clube and Bon Vivon). Those three saunas went out of business not long after the searching began. Many garotos quit going to those saunas. Fewer garotos caused clients to choose other saunas. As a result, each sauna had too few garotos and clients and then closed its doors and now those saunas are mere history. lookin 1 Quote
Members lookin Posted December 29, 2014 Members Posted December 29, 2014 I'm sure I'll feel silly for asking, but what exactly are they searching for? flipao 1 Quote
Members mvan1 Posted December 29, 2014 Members Posted December 29, 2014 I'm sure I'll feel silly for asking, but what exactly are they searching for? - That is a good question. The searching of garotos is a “control” idea/decision from a relatively new manager. The manager is attempting to cut down on garotos smoking marijuana or using drugs in the sauna. Supposedly, the searching is also to find possible weapons. Considering that a new law prohibits smoking of any kind in indoor places, including saunas, it seems silly to search for marijuana when smoking it in the sauna would be immediately detected. As to possible other drugs or weapons, searching garotos is not going to solve that issue. As I said previously, a client can carry in things for a garoto, assuming the client and garoto are familiar with each other. Clearly, the searching of garotos has a negative effect on Fragata because it drives away a lot of garotos and consequently, because there are fewer garotos, fewer clients visit the sauna. This equates to less income for the sauna owners. flipao and lookin 2 Quote
Members gap1972 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Members Posted December 30, 2014 All good vacations end too soon. It's always a little sad packing and leaving Brazil. Went to Lagoa Saturday night hoping to run into the dark karaoke boy, who knows, maybe someone new. So far, all I had was a 3peat with Jesse. And I am ready to make it a 4peat by asking him stay the night on Sunday, my last night here. Arrived at 6:30, a lot of boys already. Things seem to be happening earlier than previous years. The karaoke guy is not there. There are a couple new faces, but I want someone on par with Jesse, who was there and came to chat. I just love a boy who has a honest smile. Whenever he catches me yawn, he always yells at me with a smile: no sleepy. I told him I am not going to the room here with him tonight, instead I want him to spend the night tomorrow. He hesitated a little, said something about his dad. He suggest he can come during lunch hour and stay longer. I said no, I want overnight. He relented and we made a deal for 8pm. With that settled, I just relax and look around for new faces. The 7pm boy parade no longer happens, seems they all came early now. One tall white boy came in around 8pm, he has a very cute face, but too muscular for my taste. I never saw him before, he us quickly snatched up by a client. The dark singer for sure is not around, and no one really makes me want to jump for it. So my sauna visit is over for this trip. Saving some energy for Jesse tomorrow. Last night in Brazil, happily waiting. The lady at reception was super nice when I asked her to send Jesse up when he arrives and he will stay the night, she smiles and said: beleza. São Paulo just rocks Jesse msged me on facebook at 6:15 that he is coming tonight. But 8:30 he is still not here. I am a little pissed. Sent him a message complaining. He soon replied saying he is catching a taxi and will be here soon. Finally he showed up at 9. I was not happy, he explained that he was with his gf and they don't get together very often. "Muito chupar", he applogizes. I just can't stay mad with this boy good thing about overnight is you get the intimacy cuddling, chatting and more time to enjoy. I asked him a lot questions via google translate. he got his good looks from a brazilero father and a mother from Denmark. As to how a straight boy got hooked on being a rent boy for men, He said he was working as a sales guy for a bank, making about 2000 a month, one of the manager there is gay and seduced Jesse to fuck him. He then told Jesse that if he doesn't mind doing this, he can make a lot money in Lagoa. He did, "muito mais". So he quit the bank job, but all his friends, family and girl friend just thought he got promoted in the bank. He said he was disgusted the first time he gave a client a blow job, but learned getting used to it, "you have to do it, right". He is very clear that he never had sex with man for fun, only for money. He had sex with so many girls from very young age that he has lost count. I guess eating ass is easier to do for him as he is still in the ativo role. Whenever I joke while fucking him that he is liking it, he always say 'nao gosto', and respond by saying I like getting my ass licked so much, I must be passivo, he should fuck me. After half an hour QA section post night sex and dinner, he complained I was asking a lot of questions and started to fake dozing off. So I let go. In the morning, I love watching him sleep and refuse to wake up at first. Lovely. Sex was great again. It is even better knowing this is a str8 boy just doing it to get paid, I can just enjoy and not feeling attached. When I gave him money, he always says "thank you, sir" in his cute accent. We hugged goodbye downstairs, he asks if I want him to come back again, I told him I am leaving today, maybe in a few months. He wished me a safe trip, and left after another hug and 'ciao ciao'. I am seriously falling in love with São Paulo. Will be back. Happy new year everyone! flipao, lookin and MsGuy 3 Quote
Members axiom2001 Posted January 1, 2015 Members Posted January 1, 2015 All good vacations end too soon. It's always a little sad packing and leaving Brazil. I am seriously falling in love with São Paulo. Will be back. Happy new year everyone! Muito Obrigado for sharing while holidaying. I most enjoyed reading about your travels and appreciated your having shared them. When you return to Sao Paulo, keep us abreast [at your convenience, of course] about your experiences! This trip was certainly a precursor to the beginning of a new year, 2015, flipao 1 Quote