Members msclelovr Posted August 30, 2017 Members Posted August 30, 2017 About 3 years ago, I met a young Spaniard who had worked there for one Summer. He'd come to London to improve his English and to study dance. He was 21, dark good looks with a fit, muscled body. He was a good bottom, a decent cocksucker and had a submissive streak. I mention all this to put in context his remarks to me. He said he was very successful at VG. He simply turned up one evening just as they were about to open and told the manager he'd like to work there. The manager gave him an appointment for the following day. In the interview, there was no 'casting couch' but he was asked about what he was willing to do in bed...and also asked if there were things he did not do. He started work there that evening. He told me that the management was very honest: clients often left tips for him with the manager and he was paid them in full. He also said that clients asked for repeat-sessions and also asked for his number to date him outside VG. He preferred to work only at VG as he did not want the hassle of organising dates and visiting clients in their homes, even for the higher fees offered. As you may suspect, Evan24, he defined the key elements for success as being punctual for the required shifts and being able to service various clients as required. FWIW what he told me almost exactly echoed what Enzo, a young Brazilian/Italian, told me about VG 6 years before. (Enzo was a strikingly handsome 22 year old with a beautiful physique. He was sexually versatile and I had an affair with him for a year, after he left VG. He had worked there for 6 months to finance getting himself established in London). As to your last question, the law is complex but its enforcement is relaxed. Street-work is punished, and is extremely rare in London. Public sex acts are also punished. The police do not bother with guys advertising online and meeting men for sex privately. dscrtsldnbi, Tartegogo and flipao 3 Quote
Guest Evan24 Posted August 30, 2017 Posted August 30, 2017 Thanks for all that msclelovr that's really helpful! It's something that definitely appeals to me but I didn't even bother looking into it at all before because I didn't know places like this even existed lol (it seems like such an easier way of escorting, I'm surprised from the comments that not that many British escorts seem to go down this route?) I'll head down there this weekend and hopefully get some work from it. Quote
Members PopeFrancis Posted August 30, 2017 Members Posted August 30, 2017 From what I was told by the manager... You'd turn up... you'd have to show evidence of the right to work in the UK (international students can work for a certain amount of hours each week)... that said, he might have just said that to me in case he was worried I was from the Home Office!... and I think you'd probably start the same day or the following day. Sitting in the back room... standing up when required... etc etc And all the ones I've spoken to, say there was no casting couch... but you'd just have to tell the manager what you were able to do. Guys usually say that they do the most business when they first start - the new face in the line-up. That said, once you become "part of the furniture", your earnings will probably be about the same as if you were just advertising online. It's legal... it's legal for individuals to sell sex in the UK... (but you're not allowed to hang around on the street doing it!) The main concern here is that it is illegal in the UK for someone to profiteer from other people selling sex ie. profiteer by running a brothel... and taking a cut from the prostitutes that work there (the main reason for this is to stop people being threatened and exploited). So if Villa Gianni was a brothel, the owner would be committing a crime. That said, Villa Gianni would never describe itself as a brothel... it would describe itself as a massage parlour, a health club or an escort agency (I think this is what its prehistoric adverts used to say). When I've been there, the manager was certainly saying "Enjoy your massage" and the guys generally offered massages once you were in the room. Having said all that... I'm sure they'd answer all your questions if you just give them a call... zero two zero seven two four four nine nine zero one Tartegogo and dscrtsldnbi 2 Quote
Guest NichoLon Posted September 3, 2017 Posted September 3, 2017 Hope Evan reports back. It would be interesting to have a view from the escort's side of the two-way mirror... Wonder who is the manager or main greeter these days. Quote
Members enlglishmun Posted October 8, 2017 Members Posted October 8, 2017 I had my first experience this place last weekend, I was a little bit late and they were closing in about an hour and a half. The host was very honest and said most Guys have gone home and there were only 2 left, he showed me them anyway. they were hot, very hot, but not my type so I skipped and it was totally fine and not awkward at all, although Im not 100% sold on the 2way mirror I will definitely go back when I have more time. It was very relaxed and chilled. I asked about the frustrating early closing hours and he said they didn't want all the steaming drunk guys in looking for a quick fuck, totally get it now. Tartegogo 1 Quote
Members msclelovr Posted October 9, 2017 Members Posted October 9, 2017 14 hours ago, enlglishmun said: I had my first experience this place last weekend, I was a little bit late and they were closing in about an hour and a half. The host was very honest and said most Guys have gone home and there were only 2 left, he showed me them anyway. they were hot, very hot, but not my type so I skipped and it was totally fine and not awkward at all, although Im not 100% sold on the 2way mirror I will definitely go back when I have more time. It was very relaxed and chilled. I asked about the frustrating early closing hours and he said they didn't want all the steaming drunk guys in looking for a quick fuck, totally get it now. I glad it makes sense to you now. I always thought their hours were one reason why they are so long-established. It's a very residential area and in London the fastest way to get closed down would be to annoy the neighbours late at night. Tartegogo 1 Quote
Members Riobard Posted June 30, 2018 Members Posted June 30, 2018 Villa Giani in Earscourt has made a few changes and have an updated site. (But herein I will simply add the mispelled Gianni in order that mispelled searches get a hit on this post.) BTW, it is one 'n' ... either they removed an n for their new branding or we have been misspellng it. They are now renting out rooms for very short-term periods, love/sex hotel idea, ostensibly for customers to bring independent providers on site, but I imagine can be also used for non-hire hookups. Walk-in or reserved. I do not know if a tardy arrival for reserved would result in a ding on your credit card. I wonder if this might impact on available room inventory if at times there is a surge of customers seeking the regular traditional on-site services. On the upside it adds an option to host independents outside of their or your place, as long as they can be punctual. And for the house adds a profit margin by offsetting 'dead space' times. Maybe hot independents, having made the local trip there, would also hang out for the window-shop option following a room-rental appointment. I think that several advertising independents, on Sleepyboy for example, are reasonably within the vicinity. Quote
Members Riobard Posted June 30, 2018 Members Posted June 30, 2018 On 6/13/2017 at 4:18 AM, Tartegogo said: There are always a few disappointments, but the average is excellent. I also have been able to get the boys' phone number if I liked them, so they could join me at my hotel the next day. If they get 60 and VG takes 40 of the 100 it must be easy to arrange offsite with your faves and even get a substantial reduction compared to some of the advertising guys (that you don't get to window-shop initially). tassojunior 1 Quote
nickbemen Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 i guess it's always safe to bring your own, but do they provide condom and lube? Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted July 2, 2018 Members Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, nickbemen said: i guess it's always safe to bring your own, but do they provide condom and lube? The villa does not provide, officially, they sell you a “massage”. Whenever I went there, the boys had condom and lube , but not sure about now, I haven’t been in the last 4 years. Quote
Members mvan1 Posted July 2, 2018 Author Members Posted July 2, 2018 On 6/30/2018 at 9:19 AM, Riobard said: Villa Giani in Earscourt has made a few changes and have an updated site. (But herein I will simply add the mispelled Gianni in order that mispelled searches get a hit on this post.) Speaking of misspellings - Earscourt versus Earlscourt and mispelled versus misspelled - Sorry, you seem so erudite - I could not resist - just this once - And, because I know you know better. SolaceSoul and Riobard 2 Quote
Members Riobard Posted July 2, 2018 Members Posted July 2, 2018 10 hours ago, mvan1 said: Speaking of misspellings - Earscourt versus Earlscourt and mispelled versus misspelled - Sorry, you seem so erudite - I could not resist - just this once - And, because I know you know better. Kkkkkkk ... you did not mispell in courting our ears to draw attention to my errordite tendencies. Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted July 2, 2018 Members Posted July 2, 2018 10 hours ago, mvan1 said: Speaking of misspellings - Earscourt versus Earlscourt and mispelled versus misspelled - Sorry, you seem so erudite - I could not resist - just this once - And, because I know you know better. I have always wondered: the court of which Earl was it named after? Quote
Members Riobard Posted July 2, 2018 Members Posted July 2, 2018 It is Earl's Court ... my bad. Though singular, likely where that level of aristocracy congregated at some point. Quote
Members PopeFrancis Posted August 16, 2018 Members Posted August 16, 2018 This guy is actually advertising that he's working out of Villa Gianni... https://www.sleepyboy.com/uk/london/escort/BrentStyles ...so I'm guessing he's £100 if seen there. Tartegogo and flipao 2 Quote
Members PopeFrancis Posted August 17, 2018 Members Posted August 17, 2018 19 hours ago, PopeFrancis said: https://www.sleepyboy.com/uk/london/escort/BrentStyles ...and a day later he's removed the Villa Gianni references and reduced his 1 hour price from £150 to £80! Tartegogo 1 Quote
Guest marylander1940 Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 On 11/8/2014 at 2:34 AM, mvan1 said: Last month I decided to take a break from Brazil and visit London. While in London, I had a great time. In addition to visiting the typical landmarks and touristy things, I went to a long-term London male brother called, Villa Gianni. Villa Gianni is located at #32 Nevern Place, four short blocks from the Earl's Court underground station. It is so easy to find the place. Simply walk out of the underground station, make a left turn, then walk two blocks then turn left on Nevern place, then walk to # 32. After arriving at the facility, you ring a bell at the red painted door that has a 32 on it. The place is in the lower basement of the building. I was greeted by a very friendly fairly young good-looking manager on duty. The manager explained how the system works, i.e., what is involved in contracting with a rent boy at that facility. The manager guided me down a hall way to a room that has a one way glass that allows a viewer to see the rent boys but the rent boys cannot see the viewer. Each guy stands in front of the glass window and demonstrates and shows off what he has to offer to entice you to choose him. The manager told me what each guy likes to do. If you like what you see, you advise the manager and make a choice. The price for one hour is 90 pounds, Sterling, payable after the event concludes. That price is incredibly cheap especially for London, one of the most expensive cities in the world. Considering the low, to nearly non existent, risk to clients (not being scammed by fakes and bogus ads), this facility is awesome. If the escort is more than satisfying, a handsome tip to the escort is definitely in order after the session, even though the escort does not ask for a tip. I returned the next day but the mix of available escorts was not to my liking (nothing but twinks) and I did not stay long. As a general rule, the mix of escorts is predominantly Brazilian. Considering that I like Brazil so much, I was quite pleased. Of course, there are rent guys from many other countries at the facility. It all depends on when you go there. The only thing I do not like about the operation is the fact the rent boys must go through suggestive actions and sort of put on a show to entice clients to choose them. I think it is a little degrading to the rent boy to have to go to a one-way window and show off his wares while not communicating directly with a client. Another good thing about an operation like this is we do not have to contend with fake ads and bogus/stolen photos or escorts demanding money upfront then not performing. In all fairness, I went back the next day and the place was filled with lots of twinks. Although twinks can be nice, they are not interesting for me as romantic partners. I suspect that some members of this forum would have been thrilled on the day that I left because there were not "butch" Brazilians available at the time I was at the brothel. The manager stated that a second shift comes on at six in the evening. This means that there are two crews of working guys each day. What a splendid operation this is. I heartily recommend the place even though there is a risk of not always finding the specific type of guy you like. - We should have a place like that in those 2 counties near Vegas where prostitution is legal! Something like the Bunny Ranch for gay men! Quote
Members alesso1289 Posted October 26, 2018 Members Posted October 26, 2018 can't believe I didn't know about this place. thanks. Quote
Members holycrap Posted November 2, 2018 Members Posted November 2, 2018 how many guys usually work there ? Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted November 2, 2018 Members Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, holycrap said: how many guys usually work there ? Depends on the time of the day. Late at night, like 10 pm you might only find 2 boys. But if you go in the afternoon, like 4 pm or 6 pm, you can find 9 guys. flipao and PopeFrancis 2 Quote
Members FFshawDC Posted November 28, 2018 Members Posted November 28, 2018 I made my 2nd visit to VG a few weeks ago. The first time I stopped by in June or July it wasn't busy, with only 3 guys there, none of whom were my type. This time I stopped by at around 4:30 and there were around 10 guys, many, many hotties.... it was hard to decide. I went for a tall Lebanese guy who was born in Sweden but goes to school in London. It was a great session. Overall, the place far exceeded my expectations. I wonder if there tend to be more guys around during the school year? paborn 1 Quote
Members Tartegogo Posted November 29, 2018 Members Posted November 29, 2018 21 hours ago, FFshawDC said: I wonder if there tend to be more guys around during the school year? Maybe but the time of day seems to matter a lot. You went to 4:30 which is the perfect time, because all the guys have arrived, but they are not yet taken by the clients who finish work at 5 pm. paborn 1 Quote
Members Riobard Posted January 10, 2019 Members Posted January 10, 2019 Villa Giani has apparently closed suddenly. You would be advised to check its status prior to visiting. Quote
Members mvan1 Posted January 10, 2019 Author Members Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Riobard said: Villa Giani has apparently closed suddenly. You would be advised to check its status prior to visiting. Villa Giani Share Work Group, Category & Country Category business Work Group Villa Giani Country United Kingdom Very strange - I just called again and spoke with the same concierge I spoke with last week. He said that the facility is NOT closed. It was closed during xmas and New Year and one other local holiday. ______________________________________________________________________________________ It is a cheap call if you have any further doubts. The number is listed below or look in Google to confirm the same phone number. About Us Villa Giani, established since 1997, offer the greatest selection of masseurs where you can have an enjoyable and relaxing time. International Time & Dialing Code For United Kingdom United Kingdom Local Time7:46:47 PM Dialing code+44 Call & Message Telephone +44 207 244-9901 Email Info@villagiani.com Website http://villagiani.com Edited January 10, 2019 by mvan1 Tartegogo 1 Quote
Popular Post Santiagodc Posted January 10, 2019 Popular Post Posted January 10, 2019 The Villa is open. I have been using them twice a week for the past two months since I’ve been living here for business. They were closed Christmas and New Year’s. They got brand new mattresses for all the rooms, so they have been updating each room. An update: 1-normally 3-5 guys around 2 pm when I go, and around 5-7 when I go around 5 pm. 2-very gracious manager and a sexy tall French receptionist. They will ask if you want some water before you view and after you have sex. A really small but classy place. The rooms are small but immaculate. 3-cost is £100 that is paid afterwards to the management. The guy you choose will usually seek an extra £30-40 if you want him to cum. 4-when they take you to the room with the one way mirror, they will usually explain that the guys are all versatile but note exclusive tops. I always tell the management that I want the guy to be a good kisser so they will later ask the guy to confirm. If not, you can just tell the guy you will choose someone else. 5-virtually every Brazilian and most of the guys on sleepyboy/Grindr who charge £150-200 there, will be at the Villa at some point for £100. That reality is important because the photos of especially the Brazilians are way old. The nice thing is to see what you are getting first in person. 6-when the guy comes into the room with you, be sure to confirm exactly what he will do and what you are expecting. If there is a disagreement then you can say you want to choose another guy at that point. 7-outside the Earls Court underground station is a large and small pharmacy to your left. I went to the large BOOTS pharmacy and got an 8 pill set of Viagra for £35. If you have not done this before, just tell them you want viagra connect and they will give you the one page form to complete. No name is required, as the form merely asks medical info. The pharmacist will ask you to confirm your checked off answers, and then give you the medicine to pay there. Took me five minutes max. The Villa is just a five minute walk from there. 8-twice I found a guy on Grindr but could not accommodate. The Villa will give you a room for one hour at £40 if you call and reserve. Worked perfect for me. Cheers! flipao, mvan1, Riobard and 3 others 5 1 Quote