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Villa Gianni in London, UK

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8 hours ago, SolaceSoul said:

Yes. The manager is very gracious. 

I agree with @SolaceSoul I would just add that here (as in other houses in Buenos Aires for example) if you should accept the offer of a drink while viewing, it’s considered appropriate to give the manager a small gratuity. 

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On 6/24/2019 at 6:41 AM, msclelovr said:

I agree with @SolaceSoul I would just add that here (as in other houses in Buenos Aires for example) if you should accept the offer of a drink while viewing, it’s considered appropriate to give the manager a small gratuity. 

That's interesting. However, as jaded as I am I can't imagine not finding someone I like in their stable. Some of the Brazilian boys were forced out of Brazil because their beauty was to much for the other boys! Yes, I exaggerate but they have always had a lovely group.

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I was glad to come across this thread to re-assure me about attending Villa Giani.

So I went down today for the first time and everything seemed as to be expected.

But I was taken aback by a few things . I asked about bareback sex ( being HIV neg and on PREP) , and was told the boys only did safe sex ( which I can understand) but then I was further told that they only suck/get sucked with a condom !

This seemed a bit bizarre and unnecessary to me, to say the least. 

I said that I really liked being rimmed, and of course that was completely off the menu.

Also, the man wanted the £100 upfront - when I have read in this thread that you pay afterwards.  I did, actually, pay £100 upfront and then this was readily returned when I had decided that the sex on offer was way too restrictive.

It occurred to me, of course, that perhaps my custom was not welcome. But that seems unlikely as I am, if anything, young and attractive (as punters go) and was polite and "nice" throughout my time/interactions at the venue. I am not white, but I cannot believe that this was the issue.

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On 9/18/2019 at 1:18 PM, Kieran1614502768 said:

I was glad to come across this thread to re-assure me about attending Villa Giani.

So I went down today for the first time and everything seemed as to be expected.

But I was taken aback by a few things . I asked about bareback sex ( being HIV neg and on PREP) , and was told the boys only did safe sex ( which I can understand) but then I was further told that they only suck/get sucked with a condom !

This seemed a bit bizarre and unnecessary to me, to say the least. 

I said that I really liked being rimmed, and of course that was completely off the menu.

Also, the man wanted the £100 upfront - when I have read in this thread that you pay afterwards.  I did, actually, pay £100 upfront and then this was readily returned when I had decided that the sex on offer was way too restrictive.

It occurred to me, of course, that perhaps my custom was not welcome. But that seems unlikely as I am, if anything, young and attractive (as punters go) and was polite and "nice" throughout my time/interactions at the venue. I am not white, but I cannot believe that this was the issue.

Do forumites have any comments here? Thanks 

Never got asked the money upfront. Did you give a vibe that you might not want to pay, or not be able to?

Or maybe you had a new temporary manager who didn’t know how to handle this.

 

As for asking to get rimmed or to get sucked without condom, I never bothered to ask before the sex, all I want is to fuck the guy, so I ask for a bottom guy and that’s it for me, we are good to go. 

Gonorrhoea is rampant among clients these days and easily transmitted through oral sex. It is not easily detected for several days after you contracted it, especially in the throat. There is a strain that is currently resisting all antibiotics, even ceftriaxone. I am not that surprised that they are trying to protect their boys from it, and by proxy, that also protects their clients, if the boys can’t contract it, they can’t give it to their clients. 

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Thanks for reply.

No, I cannot see any reason for giving the vibe that I couldn't/wouldn't be able to pay - In any case, I'm sure there would be consequences if I tried not to...

And I was thinking that agreeing services beforehand was the best approach, but I can now see that the manager would always state the "party line" about condoms, whereas I'm pretty sure that escorts would suck without condoms as a matter of course.

Overall, however, I did wonder about the manager. Everything in this thread suggests the managers are excellent, but the one I had seemed simply "strange".  He was fairly tall with black hair matted up into big pointed spikes. Does that help to work out if this was a temporary manager, and the reason for my unusual experience?

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It’s fair - and I’d guess, usual - to ask about bottom/top/versatile. The rest seems inappropriate to me @Kieran. You would ordinarily ask about these matters in private with the guy you’ve chosen. No manager can know exactly what each guy will do or not do in private.

My ‘take’ on your report is that perhaps the manager thought you were a guy who just wanted to talk about sex, look at the guys and then possibly not hire, ie a time-waster. It would explain the unusual request for money upfront. I’m glad the money was readily returned to you before you left. 

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Prostitution (meaning one on one exchange of sex for money, directly from client to sex worker) is legal, as long as the deal or the act are not done on the public streets. Working as a prostitute in a brothel is also legal.  However, the tricky part is that owning and operating a brothel, and third-party pimping (a third party making the arrangements for the sex work between the worker and a customer) are illegal in the UK.

What this OP tried to do by asking him to describe in detail the sex the workers will agree to do with the customer for money amounts to engaging the manager third-party pimping. 

Those are questions for the service provider, not for the manager of the establishment.

The manager was right to keep his mouth shut about specific sex acts and show the OP the door.

Villa Gianni has remained open for years in on a quiet, unassuming, residential block, and it stays within the strict confines of the UK laws on prostitution. There’s a reason it stays open.

 

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Thanks for all replies - various perspectives help to analyse/understand the issue.

I was unaware of the apparent popularity of sucking with condoms ( which I've hardly ever encountered in any sexual encounter in any setting, or in porn)

I probably didn't look like a "regular" punter ( whatever that may be) and so the manager may have been more cautious.

I also didn't realise the etiquette for "brothels" was different to making a personal booking for an escort  (in which you DO clarify all services /payment required beforehand). Even though I'd read this thread beforehand, that bit was not mentioned.

I should say that the manager, to his credit,  did ask my preferred escort to come out and discuss what he'd be prepared to do in the session. This was a private conversation between the 2 of us. But as the sex was too restrictive for me, I declined and was returned my money. I chose to leave with my £100 rather than have a disappointing session I wouldn't have enjoyed. I was not "shown the door" by the manager.

I may well visit the Villa again when I'm in the area, armed with this new info. It is clearly cheaper than getting an escort from grindr, sleepyboys, etc (where the apparent supermodels are asking anything up to £250), and I really do like to see what I'm getting - something that's impossible nowadays with digital images, etc until the escort arrives at your door.

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On 7/28/2020 at 5:42 PM, tassojunior said:

How is the Kensington Court Hotel across the street?  Seems a convenient spot (for Heathrow and the center I mean of course :rolleyes:).

It's quite basic but perfectly adequate.  Tiny lift which makes for interesting encounters!

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Genuinely praying that it survives through this latest lockdown.  Such a great place.  The magic words as the host closes the door to your room 'Enjoy your massage'.

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22 minutes ago, zippo5 said:

Genuinely praying that it survives through this latest lockdown.  Such a great place.  The magic words as the host closes the door to your room 'Enjoy your massage'.

There were reports on another site that it was closed down and off net.

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Does anyone know if Villa Gianni has made it through the Covid lockdowns and restrictions ?

No doubt it was closed during the lockdowns but has it reopened yet? 

Or, if it's still closed, is it due to reopen when Covid restrictions finally (fingers crossed) come to an end on June 21 ?

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London is fully open from Monday and I am wondering what is happening with villa.... 

Also anyone have an idea of recent rate for in calls and outcalls in London. I am getting 200-300 gbp which is quite a lot for European standard... 

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On 7/19/2021 at 8:57 PM, khaolakguy said:

Here's the way to find out. Do let us know.

 

  •  32 Nevern Place, Earls Court 
    London, United Kingdom  SW5 9PP
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Called them, no answer... 

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27 minutes ago, captainmick said:

The website says operating from 1pm to 7pm 

http://villagiani.uk

The website had been offline for many months so the fact that the site is back online is hopefully an indication that the place has reopened despite the difficulty young11 had trying to give them a call

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On 7/19/2021 at 8:57 PM, khaolakguy said:

Here's the way to find out. Do let us know.

 

  •  32 Nevern Place, Earls Court 
    London, United Kingdom  SW5 9PP
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Just in case anyone is trying to find the place using this address… it’s the basement flat 

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