Villa Gianni in London, UK

[mvan1]

Last month I decided to take a break from Brazil and visit London. While in London, I had a great time. In addition to visiting the typical landmarks and touristy things, I went to a long-term London male brother called, Villa Gianni.

Villa Gianni is located at #32 Nevern Place, four short blocks from the Earl's Court underground station. It is so easy to find the place. Simply walk out of the underground station, make a left turn, then walk two blocks then turn left on Nevern place, then walk to # 32.

After arriving at the facility, you ring a bell at the red painted door that has a 32 on it. The place is in the lower basement of the building.

I was greeted by a very friendly fairly young good-looking manager on duty. The manager explained how the system works, i.e., what is involved in contracting with a rent boy at that facility.

The manager guided me down a hall way to a room that has a one way glass that allows a viewer to see the rent boys but the rent boys cannot see the viewer.

Each guy stands in front of the glass window and demonstrates and shows off what he has to offer to entice you to choose him. The manager told me what each guy likes to do.

If you like what you see, you advise the manager and make a choice.

The price for one hour is 90 pounds, Sterling, payable after the event concludes. That price is incredibly cheap especially for London, one of the most expensive cities in the world.

Considering the low, to nearly non existent, risk to clients (not being scammed by fakes and bogus ads), this facility is awesome. If the escort is more than satisfying, a handsome tip to the escort is definitely in order after the session, even though the escort does not ask for a tip.

I returned the next day but the mix of available escorts was not to my liking (nothing but twinks) and I did not stay long.

As a general rule, the mix of escorts is predominantly Brazilian. Considering that I like Brazil so much, I was quite pleased. Of course, there are rent guys from many other countries at the facility. It all depends on when you go there.

The only thing I do not like about the operation is the fact the rent boys must go through suggestive actions and sort of put on a show to entice clients to choose them. I think it is a little degrading to the rent boy to have to go to a one-way window and show off his wares while not communicating directly with a client.

Another good thing about an operation like this is we do not have to contend with fake ads and bogus/stolen photos or escorts demanding money upfront then not performing.

In all fairness, I went back the next day and the place was filled with lots of twinks. Although twinks can be nice, they are not interesting for me as romantic partners. I suspect that some members of this forum would have been thrilled on the day that I left because there were not "butch" Brazilians available at the time I was at the brothel.

The manager stated that a second shift comes on at six in the evening. This means that there are two crews of working guys each day.

What a splendid operation this is.

I heartily recommend the place even though there is a risk of not always finding the specific type of guy you like.

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[wayout]

Great review of Villa Gianni, mvan. And very much appreciated. I've known about it for some time but never went there so it is great to get some info from someone who actually visited the place. My next visit to London I'll be sure to check it out. As you say, the price seems very good. Thanks much!

[MsGuy]

Exceptionally good post.

...there is a risk of not always finding the specific type of guy you like.

That's a risk that's hard to avoid in any venue.

[mvan1]

Exceptionally good post.

That's a risk that's hard to avoid in any venue.

Exactly -

However, with the two shifts of escorts (plus the quantity of rent boys available in the facility), the probability of finding someone to ones' liking goes up fairly high, even though the risk still remains.

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[Theolover]

Great to hear about place..

[Guest tomcal]

My first time at Villa Gianni was in 2001 and have been back about a dozen times. I always had a good time there! One year I was there the week before Xmas and they had a Xmas party in the "living room" of the house, the first room you go thru after the entrance and all the escorts were allowed out there to mingle and they served food and drinks. My experiences mirror Mvan's account. usually when I have been there, I would estimate there were about 10+ guys to pick from. I usually went around 7:00 pm. The guy that takes you down the hall to the one way door-mirror will tell you about the guys you are interested in, top/bttm/hung/nationality, etc. In all my trips there I have never met a English guy there. Spanish, Brazilian, Hungarian or other Eastern Europeans. I think there are 4 bedrooms, all very nice and comfortable. Very relaxed safe atmosphere, I highly recommend it.

the pic below is the first guy I met at Villa Gianni, turns out I had met him at the Gaiety in NYC around 1999 and then at Villa Gianni in 2001. fun guy

[mvan1]

My first time at Villa Gianni was in 2001 and have been back about a dozen times. I always had a good time there! One year I was there the week before Xmas and they had a Xmas party in the "living room" of the house, the first room you go thru after the entrance and all the escorts were allowed out there to mingle and they served food and drinks. My experiences mirror Mvan's account. usually when I have been there, I would estimate there were about 10+ guys to pick from. I usually went around 7:00 pm. The guy that takes you down the hall to the one way door-mirror will tell you about the guys you are interested in, top/bttm/hung/nationality, etc. In all my trips there I have never met a English guy there. Spanish, Brazilian, Hungarian or other Eastern Europeans. I think there are 4 bedrooms, all very nice and comfortable. Very relaxed safe atmosphere, I highly recommend it.

the pic below is the first guy I met at Villa Gianni, turns out I had met him at the Gaiety in NYC around 1999 and then at Villa Gianni in 2001. fun guy

It is a huge world but, at the same time, it is a tiny world.

So many of us have been to the same places even though those places are miles and/or continents away.

What wonderful opportunities exist, if we act on those opportunities.-

[TampaYankee]

First I've heard about the Villa in over a decade. Suspected i not longer existed. Thanks for sharing.

[Guest escortjustin]

hey, does anyone know of any venues like Villa Gianni elsewhere in London and France, Holland, Italy, Spain and Germany?

[miller]

Thanks for the review of Villa Gianni.

The price i.e £90 is very good too.

Almost all the escorts I checked on Sleepyboy or Craigslist wanted around £150 .

London is definitely a very expensive city.

[msclelovr]

Almost all the escorts I checked on Sleepyboy or Craigslist wanted around £150 .

May I correct a misconception. £150 may be an "asking price" but I have found many attractive young men (from Gayromeo and other sites as well as Craigslist) who are happy to work for less. In my experience, in London the prevailing rate of pay is £80-120 or $120-180

[Lycees]

Can I just second what mscleovr said. Many London escorts advertise less than £150 and even those that do will often readily agree to accept less.

Most people would want to tip a guy at a massage parlor assuming they have been satisfied but if you agree a rate with an escort, a tip is generally not expected.

In other words, there is not much, if any, saving.

[PopeFrancis]

Not much happening at Villa Gianni

I ring the bell and I’m swiftly ushered in. The door guy quickly runs through the set up “I will show you the boys… they can’t see you… ask me any questions…”. Through to the back and it’s basically a normal door with the whole central panel converted to a one way mirror.
There are about 12 young men, most have their tops off or t-shirts raised up to display their abs. They have arranged themselves in a “V” shape so that you can see a bit of each one. The latin types stand out. They all stand motionless.
“Are they tops or bottoms?” I ask.
“They all do both…”, he responds, “…except the third from the left – he’s just a top”
I tell him I’m looking for a bottom.
I ask about the guy with sticky-out ears. He reminds me... he’s the top. Third from the left.
As I’m not particularly tall, I choose the shortest guy. I’m now told he’s Spanish and speaks good English. I’ll call him Paulo.

I’m then ushered into a room nearby and wait. It’s a small room. No wash basin or toilet. A small double bed, a chair. Clean. Mood lighting (tinfoil over the bulb). Door guy brings me a glass of water.

About 5 minutes later Paulo arrives. He’s brought a bag. Don’t know why. We shake hands. He asks if I want a massage. No I don’t. He agrees they’re a waste of time.

We sit on the bed and talk – about the place, the shifts and how he used to be a gymnast and now wants to be a personal trainer. He has to sit an exam. He lives in Hammersmith and shares a room with a friend. He likes working the evening shift because it allows him to go to the bank during the day. His body is, quite simply, stunning. His abdomen so defined, that it looks “knotted”. He tells me I don’t have to do anything I don’t want to do. And equally he won’t do anything he doesn’t want to do. He tells me most men ask for bareback sex – but he won’t do it. He briefly mentions that he’ll only suck with a condom. I think “ok”. We chat about the importance of staying safe.

I tell him I like kissing and we go into a lot of kissing – the sort of kissing where he doesn’t move or open his lips. And it goes on. He undresses. Beautiful body. I’m caressing his body. We’re “kissing” (his version of it). At one point he yawns. I’m undressed. We’re wanking each other. At one point he may have licked my nipple. He rolls onto his back. I suck him. Now I’m thinking… he probably regards me as “unclean” or pox-ridden as I didn’t insist on putting a condom on him before I sucked him. He lies there. He does not reciprocate. I don’t really understand why. Surely that’s the natural progression in this sort of thing…?

I roll him over and go to rim him. He tells me “not deep”. So I just kiss his backside. More wanking. He asks me if I want to come and tells me he would have to charge more if he comes because he won’t be able to work for a while after he comes. Half hearted kissing and wanking. We're chatting about how clients have previously promised him exotic trips, but it usually amounts to nothing. So now he doesn't believe anything clients promise him.

At some point he’s telling me that he likes to do more intimate things with people who he sees regularly, people who come and see him each week (he’s only been in London for 10 days). I’m guessing he’d like me to sign up to that programme.

The man knocks on the door. Our time is up. I pay Paulo the £90. He asks if I’m happy. As I’m British and don’t want to offend, I say yes.

£90 for chatting, naked kissing and cuddling and half a hand job.

There’s no fool like an old fool. And today I’m that fool.

In the corridor, door guy asks if I was happy with the boy. Not wanting to advertise my naivety about what this service offers, I answer "yes". I feel tricked and cheated.

Anyway, I’m hoping someone with more experience might be able to give me some guidance….

I realise that Villa Gianni, when it had a working website, dressed itself up as some sort of introduction agency – but is that all I was getting? ...the opportunity to just meet a young man? ...and that I’d actually have to pay him more, on top of the £90, to get him to do anything?

Is it because he was a muscle guy? Do they tend to regard themselves as worth more – and hence will do far less???

I’ve read all about the ejaculation for pay issue in the Brazil forums, but does it apply in the UK? Would you pay someone more in the UK to ejaculate?

With regard to Villa Gianni – is it more likely that the guy would ejaculate if you come late in the shift – say 4pm or 9pm?

Whilst Villa Gianni is incredibly safe and convenient, there is no opportunity to ask a guy if he does anything beforehand – your choice is based entirely on looks and scant info from the door guy (who couldn’t even remember Paulo’s name).

Is there a way of making sure something happens? When the guy eventually enters my room, should I present him with a list of what I want and suggest that he leaves if he’s not happy?

I just don’t know. I must have skipped this lesson when they taught it at school…

Any advice welcome…

[scott456]

I always make sure both partie agree on prices and service details such as bareback, condoms, top/bttm, ejeculation..Etc before jumping in.

I know exactly what I want to do with the guy.

[wayout]

I've never been to Villa Gianni but have wanted to. My only advice might have been to tell the door guy, since you couldn't talk to any of the guys individually, what your expectations were and to make sure it was made clear to the guy you selected.

Clear communication is important but there are never any guarantees they will do what they say they will. I continue to experience that after many years of hiring where I try my best to set out what my expectations are and to get some agreement. Early in 2015 I hired a guy but it turned out to be a big disappointment despite having a general agreement on things.

[msclelovr]

Sorry to read that you had such a disappointing time, PF. I wonder how it might have turned out if you'd been open with the manager/door-guy.

My approach with any guy I'm interested in is to be explicit, whether chatting online or in person. I say "I enjoy deep kissing with tongue and I like to be sucked off, no condom, to completion. Are you a good match for me?" When the guy and I are alone together, I always remind him again of what I enjoy.

I suspect that if you had done this at VG and the guy's response had been negative, if you'd left the room and asked the manager, he would have found you a more suitable guy.

[Guest JonesM]

Am I likely to find 18-21 year old smooth, thin but toned twinks in Villa Gianni? Never been here, but want to find the right guy to have my first experience with, and there is a pretty specific type of guy that turns me on.

[PopeFrancis]

2017 Price Update!

...New year... new price... it's now £100 for an hour ($123, €115).

Usual mix of Brazilians, Mexicans, Venezuelans, Italians and Spanish...

Blame Brexit!... Falling £... increased cost of foreign imports!

£60 goes to the guy, £40 to the house

 

What I have noticed is that the NHS do-gooders must have stopped visiting... because there's no attempt to put a condom on you for oral...

The lube they're using slowly dries out and sorta turns to glue... so you're often stuck to "Pedro from Sao Paulo" by the end...

If you want a full hour of "action", ask for someone who can't speak much English

They've had a bit of a refurb... new dark wooden beds... very nice

Softly-spoken Edmar (who is effectively "the madam" in this set up) still breaths "Enjoy your massage" as he shuts you in.

[Guest bobbalino]

Holiness, the experience you described is representative of my visits to VG over the past decade, in contrast to going on 25 years back when I thought it was better and with much hotter guys. My latest visit 15 months ago, staying at a hotel nearby and dropping by on the way to the tube very frequently over the course of the week, resulted in one rather mediocre on-site hook-up. At least it is free to view the window display. The cost does not seem high to me, personally, as it is comparable to a few rigidly boundaried lap dances in my current home city. I certainly do not think you were foolish or naive.

[Guest NichoLon]

On 17 January 2017 at 11:34 PM, PopeFrancis said:

2017 Price Update!

Softly-spoken Edmar (who is effectively "the madam" in this set up) still breaths "Enjoy your massage" as he shuts you in.

Is a very tall French guy, 30ish (as in 30 plus) also still one of the "greeters"? Don't remember the name: Sebastian?

The new fee is not unreasonable when £150 seems increasingly the rate asked by "independent" escorts. I have a feeling there was more choice in the days of Earls Court Clinique but that may be a nostalgia induced "false memory". 

[PopeFrancis]

Yes Sebastian is also there - perhaps the early shift???

Apparently December/January are their "lean" months - the number of guys available increases as the year goes on...

[Tartegogo]

I have been using Villa Gianni while in London for many years. It is the best experience for me, as like to chose on the spot among many boys, not on the internet.  

When I was working in the city, I could just go there on the underground at my lunch break for a quicky.

There are always a few disappointments, but the average is excellent. I also have been able to get the boys' phone number if I liked them, so they could join me at my hotel the next day. 

[TotallyOz]

It has been MANY years since I was there but these new rates seem marvelous!

[enlglishmun]

I just wish this place stayed open later, I visited twice now around 11.30pm and its all closed up. After a few bars Im always in the mood to try this place but no luck yet. 

[Guest Evan24]

Hi everyone, I just joined this site because I came across this thread and I'm curious about brothel work.

I'm currently escorting and have used websites/grindr to find clients so far. Does anyone know how I'd go about working for Villa Gianni? I can't seem to find any contact info for them... like do I just turn up and say I'd like to start working there lol?

And does anyone know if it's legal, could I get into trouble for working there?