Guest ButtWilde Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 a stroke is a real possibilty or, perhaps not. Hence the hostility during pride? Quote
Guest RfromKC Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 TotallyOz, on 03 Aug 2014 - 4:34 PM, said: Holy shit. Not this conversation again? Sorry. Mea culpa Oz. I'm a stranger here myself! RFKC Quote
Members Suckrates Posted August 3, 2014 Members Posted August 3, 2014 Sorry. Mea culpa Oz. I'm a stranger here myself! RFKC Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Sorry. Mea culpa Oz. I'm a stranger here myself! RFKC No problem. I always get blasted when I talk about this again but hell, it has been a long weekend anyway. Other than a few escorts, I spent more time with the Hooboy than anyone on these message boards. We spent time together on 4 different continents and in a variety of places. We had a blast together. Hooboy ran the Male4Male Escort Review site which split off into this site and Daddy's site after his death. During its peak, Hooboy was making a great deal of money from many sources. When I owned an escort agency in NYC, I paid handsomely for banners on his site but so did many others. When he convinced me to retire and start traveling more, we spent a great deal of time with finances and he was making well over 20k per month from one vendor alone. That was the reason when he died that so many people were so interested in trying to take his site away from his estate without the knowledge of the family. It would have been easy to do had I not interfered and offered a tremendous amount of money to the executor of his estate. I offered it as I knew I would get a good return on my investment. Daddy and I both started sites after Hoo died but neither have been the same as the original site. Hoo's was the best and made the most amount of money. But, even during its heyday, Hoo would ask for donations. I am not sure why he did that but it was something that many people wanted to do. Once they found out they had been duped all those years, many left with a very bad taste in their mouth for donations to any site. Understandably. I do not know how much Daddy makes. It is not my business and I do not care. But, many of the old timers know what these donations are often used for and prefer not to give. However, I have the opposite advice. If you get value from his site and you wish to pay him for his services, please help him. I think it is good use of money. Do not consider it a donation as much as a present. If you look at it that way, you will not be upset in the end. For many on these sites, money is no issue and they do not mind helping out the owner of the site. That is very thoughtful and should not make anyone feel bad for donating. Please give to him if you have the ability and want his site to continue but don't think it is a donation to a charity case as much of a gift for someone to live a live they enjoy. While you are at it, I am really in need as well. I saw Justin Beiber and Orlando Bloom were in Ibizia. I'd love to go there but the ticket is 9,000 (business of course) and my hotel is 1k per night. 12 nights would be sufficient for me to have a good time and recuperate from my surgery this week. (yes I had surgery and can provide proof of that for any party interested in making a donation) However, I can't provide receipts of the 21k as I might spend a bit of that on a few escorts being the whore that I am. Please send this money to $#%^@#$^$#@mac.com Western Union OK. Paypal OK. CC OK. Cash better. USD or Euro only. msclelovr and alanalt 2 Quote
Guest ButtWilde Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 No problem. I always get blasted when I talk about this again but hell, it has been a long weekend anyway. Other than a few escorts, I spent more time with the Hooboy than anyone on these message boards. We spent time together on 4 different continents and in a variety of places. We had a blast together. Hooboy ran the Male4Male Escort Review site which split off into this site and Daddy's site after his death. During its peak, Hooboy was making a great deal of money from many sources. When I owned an escort agency in NYC, I paid handsomely for banners on his site but so did many others. When he convinced me to retire and start traveling more, we spent a great deal of time with finances and he was making well over 20k per month from one vendor alone. That was the reason when he died that so many people were so interested in trying to take his site away from his estate without the knowledge of the family. It would have been easy to do had I not interfered and offered a tremendous amount of money to the executor of his estate. I offered it as I knew I would get a good return on my investment. Daddy and I both started sites after Hoo died but neither have been the same as the original site. Hoo's was the best and made the most amount of money. But, even during its heyday, Hoo would ask for donations. I am not sure why he did that but it was something that many people wanted to do. Once they found out they had been duped all those years, many left with a very bad taste in their mouth for donations to any site. Understandably. I do not know how much Daddy makes. It is not my business and I do not care. But, many of the old timers know what these donations are often used for and prefer not to give. However, I have the opposite advice. If you get value from his site and you wish to pay him for his services, please help him. I think it is good use of money. Do not consider it a donation as much as a present. If you look at it that way, you will not be upset in the end. For many on these sites, money is no issue and they do not mind helping out the owner of the site. That is very thoughtful and should not make anyone feel bad for donating. Please give to him if you have the ability and want his site to continue but don't think it is a donation to a charity case as much of a gift for someone to live a live they enjoy. While you are at it, I am really in need as well. I saw Justin Beiber and Orlando Bloom were in Ibizia. I'd love to go there but the ticket is 9,000 (business of course) and my hotel is 1k per night. 12 nights would be sufficient for me to have a good time and recuperate from my surgery this week. (yes I had surgery and can provide proof of that for any party interested in making a donation) However, I can't provide receipts of the 21k as I might spend a bit of that on a few escorts being the whore that I am. Please send this money to $#%^@#$^$#@mac.com Western Union OK. Paypal OK. CC OK. Cash better. USD or Euro only. OMG! Not that story again! Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 OMG! Not that story again! See, it didn't even take 4 fucking minutes! MsGuy 1 Quote
Guest epigonos Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Jesus fucking Christ guys let’s try and put this entire discussion into perspective. Let’s for discussion sake assume that a frequent poster here absolutely, totally, and completes hates everything Epigonos post on the site. In fact he is so incensed by Epigonos’ post the he hates him with a burning passion and in absolute, total and complete passion demands that the moderators ban Epigonos from the site. Let’s also assume that the guy demanding Epigonos’ removal is absolutely correct – Epigonos is indeed an asshole, a bigot, a liar, a provocateur and god help us all a Republican. So isn’t the answer the this horrific dilemma really very simple – IN THE FUTURE EVERYTIME THE GUY SEES A POST BY EPIGONOS HE SIMPLE IGNORES IT, HE DOESN’T READ IT AND THUS HE ISN’T OFFENDED BEYOND REASON. Why all this passion on an anonymous web site that deals with escorts and the protocols of hiring them and the gossip surrounding them. Guys let’s lighten up, sit back and take a relaxing break. Quote
Members Suckrates Posted August 3, 2014 Members Posted August 3, 2014 See, it didn't even take 4 fucking minutes! Quote
Members Suckrates Posted August 3, 2014 Members Posted August 3, 2014 Jesus fucking Christ guys let’s try and put this entire discussion into perspective. Let’s for discussion sake assume that a frequent poster here absolutely, totally, and completes hates everything Epigonos post on the site. In fact he is so incensed by Epigonos’ post the he hates him with a burning passion and in absolute, total and complete passion demands that the moderators ban Epigonos from the site. Let’s also assume that the guy demanding Epigonos’ removal is absolutely correct – Epigonos is indeed an asshole, a bigot, a liar, a provocateur and god help us all a Republican. So isn’t the answer the this horrific dilemma really very simple – IN THE FUTURE EVERTIME THE GUY SEES A POST BY EPIGONOS HE SIMPLE IGNORES IT, HE DOESN’T READ IT AND THUS HE ISN’T OFFENDED BEYOND REASON. Why all this passion on an anonymous web site that deals with escorts and the protocols of hiring them and the gossip surrounding them. Guys let’s lighten up, sit back and take a relaxing break. Epig, now what Fun would THAT be ? (in addition to the fact that he doesnt even have to See the post if he uses the Block option) . These people know what they are doing. Its intentional, they want to create the disruption as it draws attention to THEM in some sick sorta way. If they get the Mods to go along with them, they have shown "power". Some people NEED that. Quote
AdamSmith Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 or, perhaps not. Hence the hostility during pride? HAH! Now that is mean. Also funny as hell. All I can do not to add, Quite likely the case. ihpguy 1 Quote
Guest JSONE Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 He is supposed to be a computer security expert (his resume by googling the address on the donation request). How could he have allowed a DOS attack to his own server being he markets himself as an expert in that field? Quote
Guest hitoallusa Posted August 3, 2014 Posted August 3, 2014 Well experts make mistakes too. If you compare a server to a house. They are many ways to break into it even though security measures are in place and Daddy can't monitor his sever 24/7. As for hackers I'm not sure why there aren't any handsome ones. Is it because they have to sit a lot in front of computer that they don't have time to exercise??? He is supposed to be a computer security expert (his resume by googling the address on the donation request). How could he have allowed a DOS attack to his own server being he markets himself as an expert in that field? Quote
paulsf Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Oz, would you settle for a gift certificate to Hero? Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Oz, would you settle for a gift certificate to Hero? Hell yes! Settle? no. Prefer? YESSSS!!!! Quote
Guest StevenDraker Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 But the vitriol in this thread is the same shit that happens over there. Now this suckrates guy can claim all he wants that the "people" over there are degenerates or whatever the fuck you said, but you have posted like every fucking day about that site. It's obvious you have a clear hatred, for whatever the fuck reason, for that guy and his site. Then this Lucky guy who I can see by all accounts is a stand up dude who's organized these parties for people and has been a member of Hooboy, Daddys, and this site since Christ was a corporal and he gets slammed for trying to bring some civility to this. Again, is it any wonder that escorts (or anyone else for that fucking matter) won't post a damn word on these sites (except Draker who has the guts to post anywhere...and some of you have slammed repeatedly for again trying to bring a little civility to this...but oh no...he's a Daddy suckboy...give me a fucking break...and no, I haven't met the guy or hired him). But the others will be mocked, chided, scolded, bitched at, fucked (and not in a good way). The one who is the most vitriolic is the Suckrates guy. YOU obviously really have to get some type of life. Not just the idea that you spend your entire life on this stupid computer posting everything you can think of, but the hatred that is clear from you is just so wasted. Do you ever get out of the house...maybe thinking of running...going to the gym...knitting...fishing or some other thing that would get your mind off of whatever this Daddy guy did to you to piss you off so much...or you're being pissed off at life in general. It's too short for this shit. Oz, I appreciate you providing the forum you do for all of us. And I know that "free speech" is a good thing. But as far as the escort side goes (which let's face it, we're all here for so we can see great dudes and maybe hire them!)...they're not coming here...and they're not going to Daddys. Some new guys maybe for the free aspect of it...but even the other new guys who may think it...when they read the shit some post here and over there...they'll bolt. Honestly, Daddy has this time out thing right. I don't know the guy, never met him, don't want to meet him. His life is completely separate from mine. But it is his website and the people who have posted that they were "timed out" really got a bug up their ass because they felt violated. I'm not going to get into this "banned for life" shit or anything else. Bottom line, it's that guys website. He can "time out" whoever he wants. Same thing here with Oz...he can cancel out whoever he wants too. It's his site, he pays for it and it's a blessing for all of us that he and his crew do it. I accept whatever rules he may apply and if I don't like it, I'll move on. Like I said, their rules, their law...if you don't like it, then don't check the site out. If you want to have a say in it...then pay for it. We're all on here to check out escorts (at least I am), check out the reviews and the occasional forum topic that might peak one's interest. First and last post. Thanks Oz for the opportunity. Very well stated, mp2832. Quote
Guest StevenDraker Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 I appreciate Oz's response. However, there are problems with it. This board is not a 5-bedroom house in Thailand, with a huge swimming pool next door to the ocean. This board does not remind me of some "amazing party" or "great event" with tons of booze, good music, and great food. Or even hot escorts. I don't hate anybody. I just don't want to be bombarded by a narcissistic bully who spews hate and vitriol at every turn. I don't want my board participation to feel like a never-ending game of Dodge 'Em. I work in IT, so when I read a board owner quote his mother, saying, "don't ask me to choose between you and someone else," that's an open invitation to internet trolls. There is plenty of "life goes on" data and documentation of what happens to boards who don't moderate. Their life does not go on. I'm with Lucky on this one. + 2 Quote
Guest Fluffypuff Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 For the security experts here, who would start a DOS attack on Daddy's Escort Reviews? Some escort who isn't happy with his ratings? Rick Santorum Quote
Guest StevenDraker Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Fuck free speech, man. Every forum needs moderation, especially the unique forums. You will never attract positive thinkers here as long as this site allows members like this Suckrates guy to spew his hate-filled venom. He actually views his "crazy" behavior as "entertaining." Yeah, he's entertaining himself. He admits he has no connection to escorting. He's not a customer. So why then is he permitted to scream his vitriol and dominate? The guy clearly gets his rocks off on bullying people, insulting them. This Suckrates poster has no filter, no respect for anyone. Perhaps no respect for himself. He doesn't know respectable boundaries. And worse, he flaunts and justifies his verbal assaults as free speech, his right to speak his mind. The guy is a hateful, selfish, bully narcissist with only one goal: disruption. Oz, if you let him persist, if you do not moderate, your board will fail. That's why I don't post much here. It's obvious that several posters here harbor some DEEP SEEDED HATRED towards Daddy, his site and everyone who even posts or lurks there. BoyToy has become an "asylum" for those who consider themselves "wronged" in some way. That hatred has been "cultivated" here on BoyToy (previously MER) for many years, and you'll hear different versions of the story depending on which side you're looking from. Over at Daddy's site, I have been scolded many times by the mods and I have been "timed out" on two occasions, however I harbor no ill will towards them. Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 For the security experts here, who would start a DOS attack on Daddy's Escort Reviews? Some escort who isn't happy with his ratings? Rick Santorum It isn't that simple. All sites are open to this shit. It happens all the time. Adult websites are considered at risk for this and thus why many hosting companies will not take them on as clients. That said, the DOS attacks can be easily subdued if you have a good hosting company. But, that does not mean they don't happen. I had sites messed up last year as well. It took a bit to get them back on line but I think it was less than 24 hours. But, like I said it can happen to all sites at any time. Daddy's site isn't built on new technology and the older the code the more vulnerable. Members get upset with me all the time for forum shut downs, etc based on upgrades. But, having one site that gets 100,000 visitors per day, I learned a log time back that the money spent in preventive measure are well worth it. ihpguy and lookin 2 Quote
Guest StevenDraker Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Look at his post in Escort Travels and the response to it by a poster who contributes nothing to this site except to tear people down. Is that the response the site wants to encourage? Will it help other escorts decide to post their travels here? Everyone should step back and ask yourself what kind of message board you want this to be. A friendly, welcoming place? Because it doesn't look like it. Do you want other posters to come here from Daddys? Then make people feel welcome, no matter how you might disagree with them. Alas the way adolescent cliques act is not what I would call "FRIENDLY" and "WELCOMING". Quote
Members MsAnn Posted August 5, 2014 Members Posted August 5, 2014 What'd he say? He said he doesn't like us. Hell, I don't like us either. Now this is damn funny! Quote
Members Lucky Posted August 5, 2014 Members Posted August 5, 2014 Even though I'm a frequent poster, I have always stayed out of these threads. But this morning I died laughing at Lucky leaving once again. He reminds me of Cher. How many farewell tours will you do? It's a melodramatic ploy on her part because at that moment she really believes that she won't be returning but then she realizes that she still has the desire, energy and interest and she knows that her fans want more of her. So never say never and never say goodbye. EXPAT, honey, the last thing I want is for you to die. It would be a huge loss to the site, and if my staying will keep you alive, then perhaps I had best stay. Comparing me to Cher is a great compliment as she is a real trouper and a great talent. I am going to seriously consider this, so thanks for suggesting it. TotallyOz 1 Quote
Members Suckrates Posted August 5, 2014 Members Posted August 5, 2014 Gee Lucky, now I have to make a trip back to K-mart to return the "departure gift" I bought for you... Good thing I didnt write the card yet ! Or maybe I should just hold onto it cause no doubt another "farewell announcement" is in the future ? mvan1 and JKane 2 Quote
AdamSmith Posted August 5, 2014 Posted August 5, 2014 Or maybe I should just hold onto it cause no doubt another "farewell announcement" is in the future ? Quote