Guest zipperzone Posted July 9, 2014 Posted July 9, 2014 Our dear Canadian Justin Bieber was sentenced in California today for the egging incident of his neighbour's house. Here's what he received: 2 years probation (whatever the hell that means) Pay $80,900 in restitution Serve 5 day's Community Service Successfully complete an anger management course As I said as my subject - WHAT A CROCK OF SHIT Quote
Members RA1 Posted July 9, 2014 Members Posted July 9, 2014 According to you, what should have happened? Just curious. Best regards, RA1 Quote
Members Bucknaway1614502762 Posted July 10, 2014 Members Posted July 10, 2014 $80,900 for eggs that cost $2.89 a Dozen? Damn....... Quote
AdamSmith Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 The house that got egged had an extremely expensive exterior finish of tinted stucco or some such, and that figure was more or less the cost of repairing the damage to it caused by the eggs. If I recall. Maybe there was some punitive sum added as well. Quote
TotallyOz Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 I offered to supervise his community service but the judge said I was not qualified. Theolover, numerito and AdamSmith 3 Quote
Members Popular Post lookin Posted July 10, 2014 Members Popular Post Posted July 10, 2014 I offered to supervise his community service but the judge said I was not qualified. Perhaps five days on BoyToyCam® is not what Hizzonor had in mind. numerito, Theolover, MsGuy and 2 others 5 Quote
Guest zipperzone Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 According to you, what should have happened? Just curious. Best regards, RA1 Well..... not that I'd welcome him back into Canada - but, I think his visa to work in the U.S. should have been rescinded. He has broken numerous U.S. laws. As person proven to have used illegal drugs he should be subjected to the same rules as any other Canadian. For example: If I wanted to enter the States to do some shopping - as I often do, living only a few miles from the U.S.-Canadian border - and if asked by the American border official if I had ever smoked marijuana, and I answered "yes" - he/she could and probably would bar me from entering the U.S. for life. That might sound far-fetched or Draconian but it happens all the time. Why is Bieber any different? Oh right, I almost forgot - $$$$$$$$$$$$$ Quote
Members lookin Posted July 10, 2014 Members Posted July 10, 2014 The ones I'd be going after are the folks who sold his neighbor that stucco. For eighty grand, you'd think it could take a little yolk. AdamSmith and TotallyOz 2 Quote
Members marcanthony Posted July 10, 2014 Members Posted July 10, 2014 2 years probation (whatever the hell that means) Pay $80,900 in restitution Serve 5 day's Community Service Successfully complete an anger management course I am actually curious as to what 2 years of probation means. Does it mean he cannot be charged/convicted of another crime of any kind including misdemeanors subsequent to this episode. If so, what happens if he is found guilty in the Florida case which happened after this one... or is the probation only relevant to behavior in California? TotallyOz 1 Quote
Members RA1 Posted July 10, 2014 Members Posted July 10, 2014 Zip- Thanks for the reply. There is no doubt this kid has run amok and no one seems willing to provide proper punishment. Do the US border officials actually ask you if you have ever smoked marijuana? After all, you can now buy it in Seattle legally. Best regards, RA1 Quote
TotallyOz Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 I am just glad I didn't go to jail when I was 19. I egged a house or two. I rolled yards. (toilet paper) And, tons of other crazy shit. I thought it was cool. Yes, I know that was immature. But, at 19, you don't always think smart. I forgive Justin. I wish he only had to pay for the damage. The rest is just a load of poo IMHO. Theolover 1 Quote
Guest EXPAT Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 I think that that the LA DA was trying to teach him a lesson for the countless times they have been called for his misadventures. But sometimes the judges don't always go along but they did in this case. He's a petulant child who still needs to learn a lesson. I think his lesson is going to be no sales on his next album. His fandom is deteriorating quickly. Quote
Members RA1 Posted July 10, 2014 Members Posted July 10, 2014 Aren't most of his fans likely just as clueless as he is? The economic incentive always works so your suggestion would surely open his eyes to something. Best regards, RA1 Quote
Guest zipperzone Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Zip- Thanks for the reply. There is no doubt this kid has run amok and no one seems willing to provide proper punishment. Do the US border officials actually ask you if you have ever smoked marijuana? After all, you can now buy it in Seattle legally. Best regards, RA1 Yes RA1 - they do ask that question and many who think it is a harmless question and say they have smoked it years ago as a youth find out the hard way that they should have lied and just said no. The legal sale of pot in Washington state does not enter into the equation. If you told the border officer you were going to Seattle (or Bellingham, where most Canadians would go) to buy pot, the same thing would occur - a lifetime ban. Crazy, I know - but true! Quote
Members RA1 Posted July 10, 2014 Members Posted July 10, 2014 I agree ---- crazy. However, rumour has it that Canadian border officials have asked "escorts" why they are entering Canada. Conclusion: Officials can be silly if directed by their superiors. Best regards, RA1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Officials can also be plenty silly all on their own. Of course, to your point, those are the ones who get the promotions. Quote
Members RA1 Posted July 10, 2014 Members Posted July 10, 2014 Perhaps I should have said allowed. Best regards, RA1 Quote
Guest zipperzone Posted July 10, 2014 Posted July 10, 2014 I agree ---- crazy. However, rumour has it that Canadian border officials have asked "escorts" why they are entering Canada. Conclusion: Officials can be silly if directed by their superiors. Best regards, RA1 I'm sure that is true. It is a standard question asked of everyone in an effort to screen out those who are trying to get in to work and do not have a work visa to do so. I would think the same is true at most international borders but might not be the case in the European Union. Quote
Members TampaYankee Posted July 16, 2014 Members Posted July 16, 2014 Well..... not that I'd welcome him back into Canada - but, I think his visa to work in the U.S. should have been rescinded. He has broken numerous U.S. laws. As person proven to have used illegal drugs he should be subjected to the same rules as any other Canadian. For example: If I wanted to enter the States to do some shopping - as I often do, living only a few miles from the U.S.-Canadian border - and if asked by the American border official if I had ever smoked marijuana, and I answered "yes" - he/she could and probably would bar me from entering the U.S. for life. That might sound far-fetched or Draconian but it happens all the time. Why is Bieber any different? Oh right, I almost forgot - $$$$$$$$$$$$$ I suspect that if you paid the taxes he does then your border questions wouldn't be so invasive. TotallyOz 1 Quote
Members RA1 Posted July 17, 2014 Members Posted July 17, 2014 Most of the time when I go through an international border I am working. I am either delivering an airplane or picking up one. The last several years, I have been flying a corporate aircraft when going international. So far, I have never been asked what I am doing. Once or twice I was asked if I had any cargo on board. Most of the time the aircraft was empty, after all, the aircraft itself was the point of the transaction. Once, in Greenland, the officials asked if they could look around inside the aircraft. They quickly just looked inside and, of course, found nothing. These days, before going to Canada or the Caribbean, one fills out the US forms listing pax, etc. The same for entering Canada. It is more paperwork than before but properly used, there is very little extra "grief". Who actually pays me is a point of negotiation and perhaps interpretation. The cost of delivery is part of the cost of the transaction and I might be paid by either the buyer or the seller. Best regards, RA1 Quote
