Sex: once a day or more?

[TotallyOz]

I like sex but usually once or twice a day is my maximum enjoyment. After that, I can still enjoy it but it takes so long that it is not as enjoyable for me. With most boyfriends I have had here once or twice per week is about all I want or need to be content. That way, if something new comes along I am able to pursue a short term affair.

 

The BF has kept me happy for many years sexually but I also love a new off or a new experience. Something about the newness of the experience is very exciting to me.

 

A few weeks back, the bf brought home a gay boy for me. The BF is not gay and very limited in what he can do. He knew I like gay guys sometimes and thought I would really like this one. So, the affair began. It has been wonderful to say the least. But, he has been so horny that 4 or 5 times a day is what has been happening and it leaves me throughly drained and exhausted at the end of the day and starts again bright and early in the morning. I find myself still VERY attracted to him and enjoy each experience. He is creative and fun but my energy level keeps going down and down and I certainly have no time to meet anyone else.

 

He makes me happy and I don't want to offend him to tell him to lay off a bit. I thought that usually after the first week he would slow down but it has now been over a month and not only does he not slow down, he just keeps coming up with more cleaver ideas to keep me entertained and happy. That is great for me but only needed in small doses. How do I get him to slow down without driving him away into the arms of someone who can handle him?

[Guest luvthai]

Golly Gee.. I wish i had that problem. Enjoy!!

[payless]

He makes me happy and I don't want to offend him to tell him to lay off a bit. I thought that usually after the first week he would slow down but it has now been over a month and not only does he not slow down, he just keeps coming up with more cleaver ideas to keep me entertained and happy. That is great for me but only needed in small doses. How do I get him to slow down without driving him away into the arms of someone who can handle him?

 

Pay him less.

Do we really need to hear about your sex life? Just stick to posts about how much you spend on your boys etc. So much more interesting to read about how the wealthy live rather than their sordid sex lives.

 

 

[Guest]

Pay him less.

Do we really need to hear about your sex life? Just stick to posts about how much you spend on your boys etc. So much more interesting to read about how the wealthy live rather than their sordid sex lives.

 

I guess my your screenname I should have guessed that payless would offer advice on paying less. JK

 

I don't pay him any more or less than anyone else that takes good care of me.

 

I wish I was wealthy and could live up to some interesting details on how I waste my money but have been told that giving financial details on here is a bad idea. So now, I guess sex details is a bad idea too? So, what do I have permission to post about?

[payless]

I guess my your screenname I should have guessed that payless would offer advice on paying less. JK

 

I don't pay him any more or less than anyone else that takes good care of me.

 

I wish I was wealthy and could live up to some interesting details on how I waste my money but have been told that giving financial details on here is a bad idea. So now, I guess sex details is a bad idea too? So, what do I have permission to post about?

 

 

You underwrite the board so up to you.

[Guest stef]

You underwrite the board so up to you.

 

Do I feel an ounce of jealousy ?

[Gaybutton]

he just keeps coming up with more cleaver ideas to keep me entertained and happy.

 

"It's a great life if you don't weaken." —John Buchan, 1919

[Guest]

You underwrite the board so up to you.

 

Thanks Payless. Since I am not as intelligent as Hedda or as connected as Gaybutton in the goings on of the area, I need to stick to what I know. Sex and Money. Speaking of money, do you know how much a personal training session costs at California Wow? Damm, it is almost as much as many clubs in the USA. Speaking of sex. Anyone happen to see those hot swimmers in games this week? Damm, I think I should start a fan club.

[Guest buaseng]

I like sex but usually once or twice a day is my maximum enjoyment. After that, I can still enjoy it but it takes so long that it is not as enjoyable for me.

Ah, those were the days .

 

You should count yourself lucky - I consider myself thrice blessed if I can manage it without effort two or three times a week!!!!!!!!!

[Gaybutton]

Two or three times a day! With my sex life I'm happy with a stiff wind. The last time I brought a boy home, when I dropped my pants he dropped his price.

 

[payless]

Thanks Payless. ...Speaking of money, do you know how much a personal training session costs at California Wow? Damn, it is almost as much as many clubs in the USA.

 

Yes I do as it happens GT. California WOW will ask for around 1,500 part per session. However everything is negotiable. You can now get life membership for about 8,500 Baht with an additional 3,000 Baht being payable after 3 years. 100 hours training can be got for around 350 Baht per hour. Be prepared , however, for 100 hours of hard sell to buy protein and other elixirs.

 

Tony's life membership is 4,999 I think and possibly negotiable. The trainers fee is 500 baht per hour but u can negotiate with a trainer and sign up with him for 20 hours and he will train you for 30. He will be happy as he has to get people to sign up or lose his job.

Yes, payless is a good description of me but I do not exploit Thais I work the system with them.

I still think GT you are a braggart.

Stef - Do I feel an ounce of jealousy ?

No Stef I am neither envious or jealous. I am still young compared to most people here and am in a well paid job. I am also in a very stable relationship. You can call me stupid as we are both monogamous (i think) lol

[Guest stef]

No Stef I am neither envious or jealous. I am still young compared to most people here and am in a well paid job. I am also in a very stable relationship. You can call me stupid as we are both monogamous (i think) lol

 

I won't call people name if I don't know them first of all , and second of all I am so far to be monogamous. I like variety when I am in and out of a relation

 

Anyway ... when you said :

 

Pay him less.

Do we really need to hear about your sex life? Just stick to posts about how much you spend on your boys etc. So much more interesting to read about how the wealthy live rather than their sordid sex lives.

 

GT started the topic and he has the right to post what he wants, that's his problem. If he wants to share more than you can't stand , I would suggest you Not to read it neither reply back .. and we wouldn't be out of the original topic by now...

 

But your desire of posting such comments and calling Gt a braggart , really means more to me that you might want to admit.

 

Just my opinion.

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

Payless, are you referring to Wow's 3 year membership that is stuck to 3,000 a year after the 3 year? Is that the life membership you refer to?

 

Tony's has 1 year for 5,999. I was told life was 25,000. I may be wrong on both.

 

I did know the training was negotiable as they give you one free and they try to sell hard.

[Guest stef]

Payless, are you referring to Wow's 3 year membership that is stuck to 3,000 a year after the 3 year? Is that the life membership you refer to?

 

Tony's has 1 year for 5,999. I was told life was 25,000. I may be wrong on both.

 

I did know the training was negotiable as they give you one free and they try to sell hard.

 

 

I just don't get it... So much sex a day is just enough of a work out don't you think

[Guest]

I just don't get it... So much sex a day is just enough of a work out don't you think

 

Well, I guess you are right. If it is active sex. I just lay there. Does that count as burning calories?

[Bob]

I just lay there.

 

Lol. Do ever ask the bf to switch positions a bit just so you can get a better view of the TV?

 

 

 

[Guest buckeroo2]

Yes I do as it happens GT. California WOW will ask for around 1,500 part per session. However everything is negotiable. You can now get life membership for about 8,500 Baht with an additional 3,000 Baht being payable after 3 years. 100 hours training can be got for around 350 Baht per hour. Be prepared , however, for 100 hours of hard sell to buy protein and other elixirs.

 

Tony's life membership is 4,999 I think and possibly negotiable. The trainers fee is 500 baht per hour but u can negotiate with a trainer and sign up with him for 20 hours and he will train you for 30. He will be happy as he has to get people to sign up or lose his job.

 

I tried to negotiate for a personal trainer at California WOW. The asst mgr told me that the usual rate was 2500 baht for a one hour session. He offered to cut that to 1200 baht for a one hour session. He went on about the professional training his staff has gone through. I told him that I paid 10,000 Baht for 30 sessions of PT training at Tonys and he told me that his staff is much better trained and more professional. I pointed out that the 1200 baht he wants to charge me could get me 2 different PT's on his staff that worked at Tony's just 2 weeks prior. I asked how much professional training they could have received since they left Tony's 2 weeks earlier. He still would not budge. I asked him to offer me the Thai price as many Thais were using PT's and I told him I was quite sure the Thais were not paying 1200 baht/session. He offered to show me receipts showing that the Thais were paying this same price - he told me that a Thai lady just purchased 50 PT seesions and paid 60,000 baht. I told him his fees were out of line and beyond my budget - so I am not sure how to negotiate a PT there for 350 baht /session.

And as for Tonys, I paid 15,000 baht for a lifetime membership last year during a promotional event - after that, the cost was raised to 20,000 baht - not sure what it is now. But I regularly paid 10,000 baht for 30 sessions with a PT at Tony's. That was a listed price and not negotiated.

[Guest]

I tried to negotiate for a personal trainer at California WOW.

 

Neither do I. I was told 9,999 bath for 12 sessions. or 100 sessions for 75,000 baht. That works out to 750 baht a session. If it had been 500 a session, I would be game. But, as it stands now, I can hire my own trainer full time, get them a gym membership for a year and have them train me 3 times a day for the year and pay them salary.

[Guest]

Well, another 2 weeks have gone by and my time here is approaching an end as I have some things to do in my own country next month. The new guy is still entertaining me day and night. Finally, I asked the boyfriend to talk to him and he did. He said that the new guy does not like when I off anyone and bring them home and his way to stop this from happening is to totally drain me of my energy.

 

The last month, I have only taken a few boys off for massages and nothing more. When this started happening, the new guy started giving me a massage every day and at night when I finish the gym. Of course with him the massage always ended with sex. The boyfriend said that the new guy does not even like me bringing someone home for a massage and therefore he would take care of that as well.

 

So far, I have loved having him around and I have yet to be bored of him. He has slowed down to 2-3 times a day with a massage or two and I have been perfectly content. It has really helped with my going out as I don't off guys for short times and usually just off some boys I know for a night on the town for bowling and Karaoke.

 

I don't think I am built for sex more than once a day but as my time here dwindles down, he is leaving me with a lot to think about as my normal wind down time ends up with a flurry of offs. This time, it is the opposite. I have yet to find anyone who can match him.

[Guest buaseng]

Well, another 2 weeks have gone by and my time here is approaching an end as I have some things to do in my own country next month. The new guy is still entertaining me day and night. Finally, I asked the boyfriend to talk to him and he did. He said that the new guy does not like when I off anyone and bring them home and his way to stop this from happening is to totally drain me of my energy.

 

The last month, I have only taken a few boys off for massages and nothing more. When this started happening, the new guy started giving me a massage every day and at night when I finish the gym. Of course with him the massage always ended with sex. The boyfriend said that the new guy does not even like me bringing someone home for a massage and therefore he would take care of that as well.

 

It seems to me that your 'reputation' for largesse and comparative wealth (compared to other farangs) may be the cause of all this attention. The boy obviously knows when he is on to a good thing and is not prepared to share or take the risk that someone else will take his place.

 

This is not meant to be bitchy but rather a realistic comment based on the facts presented by you.

[Guest]

It seems to me that your 'reputation' for largesse and comparative wealth (compared to other farangs) may be the cause of all this attention. The boy obviously knows when he is on to a good thing and is not prepared to share or take the risk that someone else will take his place.

 

This is not meant to be bitchy but rather a realistic comment based on the facts presented by you.

 

I didn't see the comments as bitchy at all. I am not a wealthy man. I work hard and able to enjoy a good life. I come from extreme poverty and perhaps I often over indulge as a result of my childhood.

 

“Be more concerned with your character than your reputation. Your character is what you really are while your reputation is merely what others think you are.” John Wooden

 

I have always been middle of the road in what I do for the guys that take care of me. I do not give less than the majority and I do not give more than some.

 

I was once a mamasan myself in a different life and I learned the lesson of sugar from my experiences in that field have helped me determine the best approach for me to take care of someone.

 

I love sugar. I love all sorts of sugar: chocolate, apple pie, Ben and Jerry’s Ice Cream, French pastries, etc. Thus my struggle with weight for 30 years.

 

Boys who work this business also love sugar. But, they love different kinds of sugar. They love money and that is their sugar. When a boy is taken off by someone who coats him with sugar, he is more likely to stay attached to the one pouring on the sugar and the relationship is most likely to last longer. Even if the relationship started with money as the basis, one must remember that that is where it started and where it will end. If the boy’s appetite is being sufficiently fed, he will not stray. The boys in New York City that I knew often found a “sugar daddy.” The ones that really took care of the boys and got them a place to live, allowed them freedom to live their own life outside of the relationship and showered them with attention, affection and sugar were the ones that seemed to last the longest.

 

The boys that I know who found a ‘sweet and low’ were the ones who were constantly moving from one place to the next always on the prowl for something better. A “sweet and low” is someone who will take care of the minimum necessities of life but not to the degree of a ‘sugar’. In NYC, this often meant that the designer clothes were not purchased as gifts, the boy may need to work a regular job to make extra cash and they may not live in the comfort that most of their friends who had ‘sugar daddies’ lived. In the end, it was these guys who were always open to other offers.

 

I have tried to make sure than a boyfriend has all the basic necessities of life, has enough money to take care of his family, is given ample gifts and treats and is always able to take care of his needs and the requests of his friends. I do not believe I over indulge anyone with me. I make sure that I base most gifts on Birthdays, Xmas, New Years and progress in school. The big gifts are based on school progress and Birthdays. To me, this makes sure that they are working toward a future where they are able to take care of themselves. I hire tutors for them to learn English. I send them to school and make sure all their medical and dental bills are taken care of. Other than that, the amount of actual cash that I give them is pretty much on par with what most others give. I am not at the top of the pay scale, as I know many who give more. I am also not at the bottom and I make sure that I try to stay in touch with the times and with changing prices. What a tank of gas costs today is not the same as 4 years ago and thus, more money is needed today than was 4 years ago.

 

My number 1 boyfriend has been given a good life. He wants for little. I am sure he would be able to find someone who would give more cash to him than I do but I doubt few would tell him, ‘finish your high school degree and you can go to any university in the world you can get into. Finish college and I'll get your family a house” To him, that is in the best interest of his future. I don’t expect him to be with me forever, but I do want him to be able to have a way to support himself when I am not around.

 

Yes, every Thai boy needs a high end cell phone, a good motorcycle, some gold and nice clothes to show off to their friends that they are well taken care of. This is a status symbol for them and it lets them show their friends that they have someone who adores them and takes good care of them.

 

I don’t believe I have over indulged any guy that is with me. I do think I have surpassed the middle of the road and I think that is often necessary to keep them happy and thus in the long run keep me happy.

 

In the New York terminology, I am more likely to spread sugar than I am sweet and low and therefore, I rarely find a guy that is not interested in a long-term deal. Many falangs do not want anything-long term but I enjoy it. I love to see the progress from one year to the next and the way someone really blossoms when given opportunity. And, frankly, when you consider the amount of money it takes to do this it frails in comparison to what I would be able to do with anyone in USA or UK.

 

I am sure my reputation is talked about often as the gossip whores of Pattaya have little to do in low season. But, let me assure you that not one boy that has ever been with me long term will say that I treated them with anything but the utmost respect and honor and did everything I could to get them onto a road that would allow them to secure their own future outside of the industry I found them in. As I have have not always succeeded in getting them on that road, I did give them every opportunity to make the right choices but ultimately it is up to them. I can only do the best I can and then it is out of my hands.

 

 

[Guest buaseng]

But, let me assure you that not one boy that has ever been with me long term will say that I treated them with anything but the utmost respect and honor and did everything I could to get them onto a road that would allow them to secure their own future outside of the industry I found them in. As I have have not always succeeded in getting them on that road, I did give them every opportunity to make the right choices but ultimately it is up to them. I can only do the best I can and then it is out of my hands.

No-one and certainly not I is suggesting that you mistreat you boys. On the contrary your care for them is far beyond what most would contemplate or could afford.

 

Just to be put the record straight, my comment was about comparative wealth and you are being a tad modest in saying that you are not wealthy. Most people on the gay scene in Pattaya know you (even if you don't know some of them) and all we see is you having a good time with a bevvy of several boys in tow as you tour the bars. That in itself is no crime and I for one say good luck to you but it must cost far more than most of the rest of us could afford.

 

My original comment was to try to put your current boy's obsession with 'satisfying' you into perspective. I do know that I have been with my b/s when we have been in the same bar as you and he has commented to me that you are 'famous' amongst the boys for your largesse and Jai Dee. I was certainly not criticising you at all.

 

Chock Dee

[Guest]

My original comment was to try to put your current boy's obsession with 'satisfying' you into perspective. I do know that I have been with my b/s when we have been in the same bar as you and he has commented to me that you are 'famous' amongst the boys for your largesse and Jai Dee. I was certainly not criticising you at all.

 

Thanks. Once I looked up the word largesse, and realized it wasn't the same as large ass, I understand your post more. jk

 

I didn't think you were being critical at all. And, I do know that the boy is trying to hang on to his sugar. I guess I try to hang on to him just as hard.

 

While you say most know me and I don't know them, I don't think that is fair. Why not say hello and chat. I do like getting to know people and putting names with faces.