Guest Paragon Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Sure, it was just a novel, but its author probably never envisioned the NSA. The more we learn about them, the less I feel that America has a future as a free country. And now this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-surveillance-program-reaches-into-the-past-to-retrieve-replay-phone-calls/2014/03/18/226d2646-ade9-11e3-a49e-76adc9210f19_story.html Quote
Members lookin Posted March 19, 2014 Members Posted March 19, 2014 I wonder if Clapper still has that call I made to Domino's a few months back. I could swear they offered me a free order of breadsticks. wayout 1 Quote
Members TampaYankee Posted March 19, 2014 Members Posted March 19, 2014 The NSA is just one of the two prongs of this massive privacy violation attack. It gets more attention because it is supposed to be clandestine and does have potential dire political consequences. But then dire commercial consequences can affect personal lives as well as the public cultural structure. Think Google. 1984 may not be too far away <-- me, alarmist. They will come take me away... no doubt by a clandestine Google subsidiary shrouded in social media cloak. Quote
Members RA1 Posted March 19, 2014 Members Posted March 19, 2014 This broken record has been lamenting our loss of freedoms for many years and the only change is that it has gotten worse. Term limits and sunset laws will at least get a change of crooks periodically and require them to go on the public record when they lie and cheat. Best regards, RA1 Quote
Members ihpguy Posted March 19, 2014 Members Posted March 19, 2014 So fucked-up unlucky to have to be reminded. Quote
Guest Paragon Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 Term limits and sunset laws serve to keep good people out of office- people with experience who have learned how to deal with the entrenched bureaucrats who really run things. Bureaucrats have lifetime jobs, politician's don't. That wouldn't be so bad if they were trustworthy. Quote
Members RA1 Posted March 21, 2014 Members Posted March 21, 2014 So we need term limits for bureaucrats, at least the management ones? Best regards, RA1 Quote
Guest Paragon Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 Possibly. There is something about people with job security who get entrenched in a position and learn to pull the right levers that the politicians have no idea even exist. That's power! Quote
Guest Paragon Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 US tech companies are reportedly losing business, especially Microsoft, because of NSA spying, so they are relocating to foreign countries to assure thier customers that the NSA can't spy on them. This is as I understand the NY Times article liked below to be saying. But, hasn't the NSA demonstrated that national boundaries are no impediment to them? http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/22/business/fallout-from-snowden-hurting-bottom-line-of-tech-companies.html?hp Quote
Members RA1 Posted March 21, 2014 Members Posted March 21, 2014 Doesn't the NSA claim they are only spying on foreigners? And, of course, any foreigner who talks to a US citizen. Best regards, RA1 Quote
