CK: Flying Down To Rio

[Gotti]

Sauna Boys Alert!

By the time you read this, Calvin Klein, an old 117 fixture will be on his way to Rio.

in the past, besides patronizing the saunas, Mr. Klein had the habit of staying on the sidewalk across Copacabana Palace hotel where he was a guest, boywatching and inviting the cutes white ones to his room for photos and then providing cash and blow jobs.

Some 117 boys (caught at the notorious beach) provided the milk, one, naturally blond, is still there. Looking forward to hear all the stories.

[ihpguy]

I'll just keep my fingers crossed he doesn't start trolling at the gym where my guy works out.

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

Who will be the next Nick Gruber?

[Guest tomcal]

Back in about 2005 Calvin met a sauna boy and back then regular working Brasilians had a difficult time getting a visa to visit the U.S., Calvin had no problem getting this guy a visa, moved him to Miami for about 6 months and then NYC, after about 10 months or so he send him packing back to Rio. I knew him both before and after this time with CK, really nice guy, and one of the few sauna guys that was fluent in English at the time. I originally met him at the Infamous Corujinhas hustler restaurant in 2004.

[Guest parisrio2000]

Very cute boy, tomcal.

As for the CK matter, I don't want to say anything outright that could cause trouble for the forum owners here, but I heard rumors, which you will also hear if you are at 117 at the same time CK is. Let's just say that many of the boys avoid him because of rumors regarding...health matters. They seem to be convinced of this; and because of the persistence of these rumors, I myself wouldn't hire a boy who had spent a long time with him.

[AdamSmith]

Let's just say that many of the boys avoid him because of rumors regarding...health matters.

Possibly the biggest secret this side of Jodie Foster's orientation.

[ihpguy]

Jodie Foster's orientation? As the Coppertone baby, not one to shy away from a bit of nudity? After all, she has flashed her boobies in Nell and The Accused. So, how so? Please explain. A two-time Academy Award-winner for best actress in a leading role? A mother of two? I really do not understand this comment.

[AdamSmith]

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

"Very cute boy, tomcal.

As for the CK matter, I don't want to say anything outright that could cause trouble for the forum owners here, but I heard rumors, which you will also hear if you are at 117 at the same time CK is. Let's just say that many of the boys avoid him because of rumors regarding...health matters. They seem to be convinced of this; and because of the persistence of these rumors, I myself wouldn't hire a boy who had spent a long time with him."

In today's real world..anyone who engages in sex outside of a monagamous relationship should always assume their new partner is Poz. And then proceed only with what that person is safe in doing. If that means oral only, so be it. If that means not being on the receiving end of anal, then so be THAT. If it means condoms for any anal, then that is the way to go. After all, you are not just having sex with that one person, but with every person that person has been with and every person those people have been with, etc.

As a sexually active gay man (HIV negative) who has been active for over 35 years, it is stupid to think that i have not been with one positive person. I have had many "slut years" in my time. But by taking what precautions have been available to me, I have stayed relatively healthy (nothing that a shot or some dr prescribed meds can't cure).

My rule of advice is have fun, but be smart about it..

[Guest parisrio2000]

"Very cute boy, tomcal.

As for the CK matter, I don't want to say anything outright that could cause trouble for the forum owners here, but I heard rumors, which you will also hear if you are at 117 at the same time CK is. Let's just say that many of the boys avoid him because of rumors regarding...health matters. They seem to be convinced of this; and because of the persistence of these rumors, I myself wouldn't hire a boy who had spent a long time with him."

In today's real world..anyone who engages in sex outside of a monagamous relationship should always assume their new partner is Poz. And then proceed only with what that person is safe in doing. If that means oral only, so be it. If that means not being on the receiving end of anal, then so be THAT. If it means condoms for any anal, then that is the way to go. After all, you are not just having sex with that one person, but with every person that person has been with and every person those people have been with, etc.

As a sexually active gay man (HIV negative) who has been active for over 35 years, it is stupid to think that i have not been with one positive person. I have had many "slut years" in my time. But by taking what precautions have been available to me, I have stayed relatively healthy (nothing that a shot or some dr prescribed meds can't cure).

My rule of advice is have fun, but be smart about it..

Maybe so but it's probably a good idea to keep away from confirmed cases. Many of the boys at 117 refused his considerable sums for just this reason...

I agree with you in general and it's something I try not to think about, I'd generally not bring up this subject, but this seemed to be THE thing the boys at 117 were discussing about CK. This and the fact that he paid R500-600 flat for a session.

Does anyone know other famous people (whether international or just local/Brazilian) who frequent 117?

Gotti, you remember Kelvin. He had a "famous" American client for a while, the agent of some pop star or something like this. Do you know who that was, I've always been curious. He was quite generous to Kelvin.

[ihpguy]

Oh stop already.

Nao mijar na minha bota e me disse que esta chuvendo.

I say this to Cariocas and after about thirty seconds of thought they crack up laughing. HI-LAR-I-OUS!!!

In this day and age, and after the past thirty plus years, do we still need the lectures and even more, do we need these unsubstantiated rumors? And if Mr. You-Know-Who really wanted someone, he could afford to pay whatever it took too turn whoever's head, even PR2K's fantabulous, straight-as-SF's Lombard Street,the Marvelous Marcelo. The boys might protest publicly but in private they are bidness whores turning tricks to pay the rent, support the girl friends and kids. sometimes tuition bills. And lest we forget, supplements and steroids.

Translation: Don't piss in my boot and tell me it's raining.

[axiom2001]

Oh stop already.

Nao mijar na minha bota e me disse que esta chuvendo.

I say this to Cariocas and after about thirty seconds of thought they crack up laughing. HI-LAR-I-OUS!!!

In this day and age, and after the past thirty plus years, do we still need the lectures and even more, do we need these unsubstantiated rumors? And if Mr. You-Know-Who really wanted someone, he could afford to pay whatever it took too turn whoever's head, even PR2K's fantabulous, straight-as-SF's Lombard Street,the Marvelous Marcelo. The boys might protest publicly but in private they are bidness whores turning tricks to pay the rent, support the girl friends and kids. sometimes tuition bills. And lest we forget, supplements and steroids.

Translation: Don't piss in my boot and tell me it's raining.

Thanks, ihpguy, I concur with what you share here! YES, damnit!!! Assume that your conquests and desires are positive and go from there! Very few of us, if any, know the HIV status of the sauna boys. We do not know their status regarding any other STDs as well, and they don't know ours! Do we "break our necks" to be with one or more of them without being or having any concern about their health per se?

I was surprised to read what the individual wrote about Calvin Klein. Innuendo and assumptions.... OK, I'll put this to rest! Let us continue to enjoy the photos and the writings of TomCal!!!!

[Guest Paragon]

Back in about 2005 Calvin met a sauna boy and back then regular working Brasilians had a difficult time getting a visa to visit the U.S., Calvin had no problem getting this guy a visa, moved him to Miami for about 6 months and then NYC, after about 10 months or so he send him packing back to Rio. I knew him both before and after this time with CK, really nice guy, and one of the few sauna guys that was fluent in English at the time. I originally met him at the Infamous Corujinhas hustler restaurant in 2004.

Is the same guy in both photos? In photo A, he looks young and handsome, with a tattoo on his forearm and above his right nipple. In photo B, he looks older and a little tired, but with no tattoo on the forearm or nipple. Granted, he could have had it removed, and who wouldn't be tired after a marathon romp with tomcal? (Hey, I'm just kidding!) But I remain confused. Photo B looks to be taken after photo A, so where are the tattos?

[Guest tomcal]

Paragon I agree with you! but in photo "A" he is, if I remember correctly about 2 years older then Photo "B" The first photo was taken after his time with CK. but I guess we can all find can all find photos where we look a lot worse then photos taken later, whether it's from lack of sleep, drinking, drugs, binge sex...:-)

He was really a nice guy, there is also a couple of videos of him the one below is one of them(the guy on the left is also I sauna guy I met about the same time and had a lot of fun with on several visits!

[TotallyOz]

I guess I am just too left of this issue to let sleeping dogs lie. But, having been in the business of escorts for 20 years, I can tell that that escorts and clients are positive and you never know what you are going to get. They will not tell you. Assume that every partner you have is positive and then weigh the risks of sex with them. If you decide you will not have sex with anyone that is positive, join a convent. Give up gay sex totally. You will fail. If you decide that you want to have safe sex with someone that might be positive, then your numbers of potential partners are greater. If you decide to bareback with anyone and don't care if they are positive or not, then you have to accept the responsibility of that decision.

I hate when others make decisions for me and I do not wish to tell others what to do sexually. Do what you are comfortable with. If you only want safe sex blow jobs, then go for it. If you want a bareback blow job, go for it. If you want anal sex with or without a condom and you have a consenting partner, go for it. You decisions about what and how you have sex are your business and not mine or anyone elses.

As for me, I am still HIV Negative after over 20 years of coming out of the closet. If I choose to have sex with someone, I weight all the risks involved and then I made a decision that I can live with. If I go to a sauna and have sex with a guy that has had sex with 200 guys this month, I make a calculated risk assessment. If a sauna boy asks me how many partners I have been with, I'll be honest with him and tell him over 5,000. He can then decide if he wishes to have sex with someone who is more of a whore than he is. But, in the end, anyone who has sex with men is taking a risk. Hell, if you are having sex with women, you are taking a risk. If you wish zero risks, go to Thailand, join a Buddhist Temple and maintain your celibacy (hard to do with cute Thai monks).

OK. Guys, I have said my peace. Have at me!

[Guest Paragon]

Well, I do understand your viewpoint, and agree that the safest approach is to accept that any partner could be positive and act accordingly. But, youth brings with it immaturity, and hard dicks bring with them lack of judgment. The costs of bad decisions are primarily born by the Decider, but there are societal costs too. Most of these young guys who seroconvert do not have health insurance, and the expensive medicines they need are paid for by the government- us. Medicines are only one cost at that. So everyone has a stake in the decision to bareback or have unsafe sex. San Francisco alone was out millions of dollars during the original AIDS epidemic, and I am glad for that. But now that we know more about getting the virus, it is only responsible to act responsibly. So that's my opinion. Have at it.

[Guest Paragon]

Paragon I agree with you! but in photo "A" he is, if I remember correctly about 2 years older then Photo "B" The first photo was taken after his time with CK. but I guess we can all find can all find photos where we look a lot worse then photos taken later, whether it's from lack of sleep, drinking, drugs, binge sex...:-)

He was really a nice guy, there is also a couple of videos of him the one below is one of them(the guy on the left is also I sauna guy I met about the same time and had a lot of fun with on several visits!

He sure looks cute in Photo A. I'd a done him!