Bangkok trip

[paulsf]

There hasn't been any postings in this section for a while, so I thought I would give it a shot.

I'm starting my 2nd year of retirement and finally have realized I don't have to be home Sunday night to go to work Monday morning. I have been to Thailand several times for 10 days to 2 weeks. I thought I would give a 1 month trip a shot. I found an apt on AIRBNB. Heard good and bad, but this experience has been about perfect. Have a 1 bedroom, fast wi-fi, pool, little gym. I arrived at 1am so stayed in a hotel as I didn't want to go looking for the place and looking for keys at that hour. When I arrived the protests were still happening, so a 10 minute taxi ride here, took 1 hour. The roads are all open now, so just typical heavy Bangkok traffic. I found the Apt easily. The security guard had the key and it was that simple. Location is about 1/2 mile down Suriwong towards the river.

I flew from Miami to Chicago on American, then Cathay Pacific to Hong Kong on to Bangkok. All in Business.

Great flights. Had the mini Business cabin. It only has 8 seat, and only 3 were taken. Really quiet and great individule service. 30 hours door to door is a long day. I stayed in my first night trying to adjust a little to time change. For some reason hit me hard this trip.

Next night I went up to Soi Twilight. I have a couple of friends that work at Hot Male at the outdoor bar, so I hang out there a lot. When I was last in Bangkok, (July) I met a boy that I really liked. He was from Vietnam and I figured would be long gone. Well I show up and as soon as I say hi to my friends, they all said my friend had gone back to Vietnam and just arrived back in Bangkok the same day I arrived and was upstairs working.

Well that helped wake me up a bit. I went upstairs and looked around and didn't see him. Went to take a seat, and before I could park my butt, he was right there. I don't understand how these boys remember everything about every person they have met for years. I don't remember dinner yesterday.

I didn't off him that night. At 350 baht a drink, we each had one and then I was out of there. The jet lag was still getting to me and sex wasn't high on my list. Drinks at outdoor bar were 150.

He has been with me the rest of the week though. I have lived alone for a lot of years, so I don't need him with me 24 hours a day. So we meet up each evening for dinner, drinks and back to apt for a bit of fun. He really hits all my buttons so fun times for me, though probably kind of boring for a lot of you. Not into topping or bottoming anymore, but living alone the thing I miss the most is affection. This boy is amazing in that department. He is all over the place and I know so many of you like kissing...he loves it. He rams his tounge down my throat so much I am usually asking for a time out.

Usually when I get here it's off to the massage places for a little fun, but with my boy, I haven't needed to. Next week I'm going to give him a night or 2 off so I can have a little taste of what else may be lurking out there.

He also has promised me a 3 way with a friend of his that is arriving from Vietnam next week. When his friend arrives, that will give me an excuse to go off on my own.

Weather has been great. 90 each day and 80 each night. Low humidity has been a big plus with a good breeze. Now that I have lived in Ft.Lauderdale for about 2 years, the weather has been much less an issue for me here. Probably the biggest problem I have with my boy is the A/C. He likes it set about 80 and I like it about 70. We comprise, but I'm still to hot when playing around.

For those of you that have been here know what a bustling city this is. Right now it's as quiet as I have ever seen it. So many empty taxis and tuk tuks. Drivers are all saying, people are coming to thailand, but not coming to Bangkok. My flight Hong Kong to Bangkok only had 11 people in Business. This is the only trip I have seen empty seats. I had fast trak for emigration . 1 window open, and I was the only person there.

It was 1 am, but airport did seem quite. All the intersections are open now and the protesters are staying in Lumpini Park. So safety not really an issue now. An other sign, every time I have been on SkyTrain , I have gotten a seat.

Well my date for the evening has just shown up so it's off to Scozzi for dinner. I asked him if he eats only Thai or does he like some western food. He says he likes food any and all. Makes life so much easier.

I'm not the best writer and pretty much seeing only one boy, doesn't leave a lot to write about. But I will see what I can come up with.

Till then

[MsGuy]

Looking forward to your letters, Planetime.

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

thanks for the report. Any chance you can include a picture or two? of your favorite boy, and your apartment, and any other thing that you find interesting. So many of us are visual beings here.

Have fun and enjoy the trip.

[RA1]

Visual beings aka voyeurs. OK, I admit to being one.

I did enjoy and expect to keep enjoying whatever you have to say about your visit to Thailand. After all, it is current and therefore important.

I have been to BKK but not other desirable places in Thailand. I hope you will visit some of them while you are there and not completely limit yourself to BKK. Politics are politics. Get out of town and have fun.

I completely understand your comments about how and what you do to have fun. Not everyone can be twenty something at all times, especially physically. Mentally, yes.

Best regards,

RA1

[Bucknaway1614502762]

Nice report. I head to Thailand in April for about 2 weeks. It's nice to know that I won't have to worry about dealing with big crowds when I am ready to explore the fun areas.

[paulsf]

Sorry I haven't been posting. But my trip has been pretty routine. Not a lot of excitement. But I have a few minutes to share a bit with you.

I had thoughts of offing boys and massage palors all over the place when planning this trip, but then my boy from last trip was here and I've been a one boy man. I've only been enjoying his company after sunset. I like my days to hang by the pool or run off to Siam Paragon, MBK Center or Terminal 21 for the lunch food courts. Plus I can also grocery shop. Because my boy speaks very limited English, it's just easier for me to sight see alone.

My boy is Vietnamese and yesterday he had to do a Visa Run to Cambodia to get his passport stamped for another 30 days. Hot Male will not allow any illegal boys to work there and the foreign boys have to show their passport every week. I knew he would be tired and hungry when he got back tonight, so I met him at his office(hot male) and we went to Dicks Cafe for dinner. I've been to Dicks a few times this trip and barely a customer, but tonight, barely a seat. Don't know where everyone came from.

While sitting there I saw a sign at Xboys . Promotion prices 200 per drink and 300 off fee. Not bad. I understand Bangkok Boys is 400 per drink. When it's quiet, not a lot of people make it to the end of the street, so maybe promo will help.

After dinner we came back to the apartment, and he said he wanted to spend the night. He has been up for almost 48 hours so I said ok. I went to take a shower, by the time I came out, the a/c was full blast and he was sound asleep. So here I sit and type. I am a tosser and turner so we will see how long he stays asleep. I have a pull out couch if I get to be to much for him. They drove to Cambodia with no a/c in the car, so I think that is what he really wants. When all the boys start complaining about the heat, you know it is hot. This past week has been mid 90's .

I have spent a lot of time on Soi Twilight this trip. Mostly outdoor bars. I saw one show. They are pretty much all the same, just different boys and music. Big cock show, glow in the dark paint show, fucking while upside down on the gym rings show, hot wax show, and the fuck your way through the audience collecting tips show.

Sitting outdoors watching everyone walk by, I have seen more hot boys than on any of my previous trips. If I wasn't previously engaged, I would have no problem getting a different boy or 2 every night.

Weeknights have been on the quiet side, but the weekends have picked up ok. I've seen it busier, but not to bad.

Had a friend of mine from San Francisco stop in Bangkok for a few days while on his way to Puket . We spent last Saturday sightseeing at Wat Po and the Grand Palace area. Very few Western tourist. Almost all Asian. We took the water taxi back. It's always a lot of fun, but was very crowded. I would have felt safer with a few less people. It was a really hot day, and kind of did me in. We went out for dinner at the

Smokehouse Restaurant on Surawong . After a couple weeks of rice and vegetables, I really wanted a steak. My friend the same. Bit pricey at $30. But sometime u just gotta do it. I called my boy to meet us. He had a rack of ribs. When he got done, not even a nibble for a dog off those bones. Where do these kids put all that food. They are so small. So stomach full and starting to feel the heat after a long day in the sun, sent the little one on his way and went back to the apt and slept all night and stayed in bed most of Sunday. We're not as young as we used to be.

I have one week to go. I told my boy that for Friday I would take him to a Vietnamese Restaurant. I'll have rice, he can have what ever he wants. Then Saturday we are going to the Firehouse Restaurant. I think Oz has been there, but again I am in the mood for Western food.

The next few days are going to be on the cheap. Have to start watching the $$. I will be back in Bangkok for a couple weeks again in May on the end of a trip around the world. Then 2 days after I get back to Florida, I am driving to Boston for the month of June. We always say it's nice to get home to our own beds. I'll have been gone from mid Feb to July 4th. I don't even know what my bed looks like.

I'm sure I'll come up with something to post about this weekend, but for now, it's time to go cuddle up with the little cutie in my bed.

[lookin]

Really enjoyable post, Planetime, as always. You say your trip is routine, without a lot of excitement, but it's just the kind of vacation that I would enjoy, and I thank you for sharing it.

[axiom2001]

thanks for the report. Any chance you can include a picture or two? of your favorite boy, and your apartment, and any other thing that you find interesting. So many of us are visual beings here.

Have fun and enjoy the trip.

It's the first day of spring, and I decided to venture here to see what I could read and enjoy! Well, I enjoyed your read and hope you'll continue to post!

Have you been to other parts of Thailand: Chiang Mai, Pattaya, Phuket? If you want variety, I'd suggest some time there as well next time, if not during this trek!

[Guest Paragon]

Thanks for the interesting observations. My early trips to Bangkok and envoirons always included a lot of sex, but as I got older I found I needed less, so it's nice to see that others might feel the same. Thai guys are comfort guys and experts at what you need.

[Guest Paragon]

On March 20th, Planetime wrote: "I'm sure I'll come up with something to post about this weekend,"

Well, I hope you did and that it's still coming. Otherwise, some of us Thaiphiles might have to send a search party out for you!

[paulsf]

Well I did feel a little guilty about not posting again. The first couple of weeks I spent time running around the city and hanging with my friends in the evening. The last couple of weeks, I just hung around the apartment a little more. I wasn't alone. My boy was with me most of the time. But I spent more time, sitting by the pool and reading, and when my friend would go to his apartment in the afternoons to get clean clothes and stuff, I would take naps. We just ate a lot of street food so not a lot of restaurants to talk about .

Many of you that have been to Thailand (and Brazil to a lesser extent) have run into the situation of becoming friendly with boys and when you get home, receive the email asking for money for sick grandparents or house repairs. I had it in the back of my mind that this would happen as we were getting pretty close. Well after 2 weeks, we came back to the apt one evening and he hit me up for money for his sick mother. Asked for 20,000 baht. (About $600) Unfortunately for him, he found out real quick I don't fall for this. I am a pretty easy mark for sales people, I fall for anything. I have been using escorts for more years than I want to admit, but this is the one time I go stone cold. I have taken boys all over the world over the years, and had great time, but there are a few, no matter how much you give, they want a little more. Long story short, I told him, no, I didn't have any money for him and I had a head ache and he should probably head home.

I was really enjoying his company and I hated this situation, so I gave him a 2 day time out. He called and sent texts, but I didn't answer.

I finally sent a text to meet him at his work. I mentioned the situation to one of the boys he works with. I think he got the message. The next 2 weeks were about perfect. We had a great time and he started staying overnight all the time. But again because I had my friend, I didn't go to any massage parlors, or other bars or clubs. We did go to Silom 4 a couple of times to eat . Once at the Balcony, and once at Telephone. Not 5 star dining, but good and great people watching.

When it was time to leave, he wanted to go to the airport with me. I didn't really want him to. I had to leave at 5:45 in the morning. Figured he would be hard to get up. As soon as I check in, it's thru immigration, no place to hang together. But he insisted and I said ok.

I got up at 5 and straight to the shower. Within 1 minute he was up and in there with me. I had mostly packed the night before, but he went thru all the draws, closet, making sure I didn't forget anything. He went and threw away the trash, made the bed. I just sat there thinking he is just the housekeeper I could use at home. Time to head to the airport. I had 2 big suitcases, he took them down and got a taxi while I took care of the keys. 30 minute drive to the airport. He has no problem with public displays of affection. I do. So I found a quiet spot behind a big sign and we said our goodbyes .

As I mentioned earlier, I have met many boys over the years and this one is right up there near the top of the list. If he spoke better English, it would be close to a perfect time.

My trip home went great. I flew Bkk-Tokyo on Japan Airlines in business. Interesting, we left at 8:15am and they served dinner on the flight. So I had steak for breakfast. I had a 3 hour layover at Narita . Did Nrt-Dfw on American in first class. Good flight crew. Left and arrived right on schedule. Last leg was Dallas to Ft.Lauderdale. Again left on time and arrived 1/2 hour early. Taxi home arriving 11:30 pm. I think I was in bed 2 minutes after I got in. I used to live in San Francisco. I always felt bad for the people that had to fly to the east coast from Asia. Now I'm the one that has to fly that extra 5 hours.

I've been back for 2 weeks now. My boy has been sending a few texts. He knows I am coming back next month, so I guess he wants to keep tabs on me.

I leave in a week and a half on a cruise from Miami to Barcelona. Then flying up to Helsinki. Then on to Bangkok for another couple of weeks.

He has my arrival day coded into his phone, so I half expect to see him waiting for me when I arrive at the apartment.

To wrap up this trip I will be flying Bangkok to San Francisco on Cathay Pacific. I'm going to spend a couple days in SF before heading back to Ft.Laudale. This will break the return up and I get in at a more reasonable hour.

Reflecting back, being there for a month, I thought I would be doing a lot of fun and interesting things on a daily basis. Well that didn't happen. I had fun, but it was at a much slower pace than I had expected. I hadn't expected to have 1 boy with me for the entire trip. It was very hot (upper 90's) so easier to just hang out at home during the mid afternoon hours. Did read a couple of books , watched more tv than I should have. The Malaysian plane situation was happening and being in the same time zone, with all the int'l cable news stations, there was more coverage than here in the US.

If anything exciting happens when I arrive in mid May, I'll try to follow up with some postings.

Unfortunately we can't all live the life of Tomcal though we can try.....

[Guest Paragon]

I'd give him the $600 since he spent two weeks with you after being told no and didn't bring it up again. Besides, when a guy spends that much time with you, a nice tip is in order anyway. Of course, planetime, that's just my opinion and assume, for one, that you have the $600 to spare.

[firecat691614502759]

I disagree!!!

First you have no idea how generous he was to the boy and in fact 1 boy in a thousand is lucky enough to find someone who pays him every day for such a long visit. That amount has added up to thousands and thousands of baht during a time period when the boy had no other expenses. If he needed money to send home he certainly should have had it.

Someone told him he could come up with a sad story and get a lot extra from the Farang. He tried and he failed but luckily for him he continued to make a lot of money for 2 more weeks.

Depending on how generous he was during the stay then a gift at the end is appropriate but 20,000 baht is what an average Thai worker makes for 2 1/2 months work.

2nd by giving him the amount he asked for you are encouraging him to ask again in the future and he definitely will!!!

[paulsf]

Firecat, you hit it right on the head. I paid the boy quite well on a daily basis. I'm sure he is quite comfortable financially for the few weeks in between my trips. In fairness to Paragon, I wasn't clear that I paid him for a month of service.

There is also the fact that he is getting his meals free for a month, doesn't have to sleep on mattress pad on the floor in an apt with several other boys with no air conditioning. He also doesn't have to stand on stage doing the 2 step shuffle, hoping to get lucky for the month he was with me.

The asking for extra money is something most of these boys will do. I got my point across to him very quickly that it wasn't going to happen.

He got over it faster than me . Then the last 2 weeks of the trip, we had a great time. He knows I'm on my way back in a few weeks, so the texts keep coming saying "can't wait to see you".

Firecat, interesting you say 1 boy in 1000 get the month time period. He is Vietnamese and knows all the Vietnamese boys that work on Soi Twilight. When we would be sitting at the outdoor bars , sometimes his friends would stop by and they would talk for a couple of minutes. Because they talked in Vietnamese, myself and my Thai friends couldn't understand the conversations. One night I asked him what they talk about. He said they are all teasing him about all the money he is making and that he doesn't have to work in the bar.

He said they would tease him that when I left, he would have to take them out to eat, and go shopping. He said it was all in fun and he didn't mind.

[Guest Paragon]

I am glad that firecat agrees with me that "a gift at the end is appropriate." And, as planetime points out, I don't know how much he has already paid. His generosity during the stay could easily have made a gift at the end unnecessary. I am probably one of those guys who overpays and overtips, but that's me. In terms of US dollars, these guys are a bargain, and if one of them steals my heart, my wallet is not far behind. Sure, it's only one way of showing him how much I like him, but I also show him in other ways, you know, by writing letters of recommendation for him to use to get future jobs and stuff like that.

Of course you know I am kidding about the letters...don't you? .

[axiom2001]

Nice report. I head to Thailand in April for about 2 weeks. It's nice to know that I won't have to worry about dealing with big crowds when I am ready to explore the fun areas.

Oh, you'll be there to get wet from all of those water balloons, etc. that will be thrown on you! Am I not correct?

[axiom2001]

Planetime, I enjoyed your last, long post regarding your month's trip. ...appreciate your sharing and yearned to be in your shoes to be traveling abundantly!

[MsGuy]

If anything exciting happens when I arrive in mid May, I'll try to follow up with some postings.
Unfortunately we can't all live the life of Tomcal though we can try.....

Panetime, your posts and Tomcal's may differ in character but (except for the pix ), I'd be hard put to say which I enjoy more. Both of you have the knack of letting your readers see a personal take on what it's like to be visiting an exotic destination.

Please post on your May trip regardless of how 'unexciting' you think we will find it. Freely admitting that I feel the occasional pang of jealousy at the panache with which Tomcal pulls off his adventures in Brazil, truth be told my fantasy vacation would far more resemble yours than his.

Besides, I'm hooked on the back story of your Vietnamese friend. (blush)

PS. You handled being hit up for cash about as well as it could be managed. It took me a lot of years (and many dollars) to learn how to say no half as well as you did. Oddly enough, I found that my relationships with the boys actually improved after I learned just to say no. My last regular I haven't seen in 5 years but I still hear from him regularly as he gallivants around the country; he's been out of the business for years & calls just to talk & keep me up to date. I think making it clear that you won't be conned can sometimes clear the way for a sort of real friendship to develop.

[TotallyOz]

I have only been hit up for cash by Thai boys about 10,000 times. Dead water buffalo. Sick parents. Grandma needs help. I want to go to Europe. It spans the gambit. I do not give in. I do not give them money. However, I'll always do a short time with them or maybe a few overnights if they want to earn some cash. I don't mind this at all. But, I won't fall for the sick mama trick.

I had one American friend who paid for his BF's father's hospital bill, went to see him in the hospital and then paid for the funeral when he died. It was not cheap. About a year later the father has risen from the grave and in Pattaya to see his son. LOL

[MsGuy]

I have to admit I've never been hit up to replace a dead water buffalo.

LOL. How much does a water buffalo cost?

[paulsf]

MsGuy, I appreciate your kind words. This trip next month will only be 2 weeks, so time will go very quickly after just spending a month.

One of these days I will figure out how to post pictures. As the say, a picture is worth a thousand words. So a few pics will mean I won't have to dig for as many words.

Oz, this is only the 2nd boy that has asked for serious money from my trips to Thailand. It happened several times in Rio, but not for as much. I've also had a few boys here in the states that have ripped me off.

MsGuy got it right, once you say no, there tends not to be anymore issues.

I will probably do another trip in Nov or Dec for a couple of weeks, and i am going to try 2 months next Feb/March. Thank goodness for frequent flyer miles.

[AdamSmith]

I have to admit I've never been hit up to replace a dead water buffalo.

And after I went to all that trouble to look just like one!

[MsGuy]

It was the lack of buzzards around your carcass that gave you away. The flies were a nice touch though.