3rd South America trip, brazil and Patagonia

[gap1972]

Waiting at EZE for flight to FTE for Patagonia hiking. They have free wifi here.

Spent yesterday afternoon at Lagoa until 7:30pm, it's been a year since my last visit. How nice to come back. Watching new faces coming in continuously after 4pm. However, my type is the clean cut college boy next door type, not many fits the bill. By 5:30, this dark slim boy from São Paulo chatted me up. He seems clean and friendly, I like his smooth slim body. So we went upstairs. It was not bad, but I've had better. A decent start.

A little after 6, the place is now packed. Easily 30+ boys. Well, no strike out for me yet. Then at 6:30, Daniel came in. This is the tall slim white boy I had some fun with 2 years ago. He is more tanned now, defined chest and light six pack abs. I wish I had waited a little longer however, he is occupied immediately with some regular clients, and soon disappeared Having to leave at 7:30 to catch a flight, it's not meant to be wish He will still be here first week of January when I come back.

Stayed a little longer just to see who else comes in. Lot of new faces, but no one else beats Daniel. Wish I could stay longer, but gotta go as it's 7:30.

Nature time in Patagonia until Christmas. Then will be back in Brazil including POA and São Paulo. Also will spend a few days in Curitiba, but it's mid week during New Years there, so don't expect much. Will post if something interesting happens.

[axiom2001]

gay1972, your title enticed me to read your post. Thanks for the interesting read. Continue to travel safely, enjoying all components!

Have a wonderful Christmas and NEW YEAR and all of the days in between!!!!

[gap1972]

Thanks, ax! Happy holidays to everyone!

After hiking for 10 days in Argentina and Chile, back to city life for some action

Mezz Friday night right after flight landed. It's pretty busy at 6pm. 20+ boys working, cafe area half full. I have a particular type: clean cut college boy next door, slim, not too tall, not too muscular. Or high school drop out boy next door works too there are three fits the bill! Unlike Lagoa, Mezz is much more a social place. Boys sit drinking, eating and chatting with customers for a long time, and often ends up not going to a room in the end. So have to wait a while if the boy you like is occupied. Also not speaking the language is a huge disadvantage. Sadly, to my surprise, as I manage to talk to two of the three boys I liked, they are both strict tops!

By 8pm, the third boy left quickly after sharing a meal with a client. Didn't get a chance talking to him at all. Boys here are nice, but not many others trigger my fancy. Funny some big guys are versatile, the pretty boys are all tops tonight. Three strippers came on stage, they all have defined six packs or eight packs, but funny people would like that when there are boys available for more intimate fun. Tired after traveling, I decided to call it a night. Pity I didn't get to spend any money on the boys. Hope I will have better luck tomorrow.

[pauleiro]

Keep on trying.

There is always someone you like in Mezzaninu since there is a wide choice of boys.

Going there early (ie no later than 5 pm) is also a good option, since there are already some boys and not so many patrons. So you can start connecting, even without speaking the language, with the boy you like.

Some boys would not accept to tell in public that they are passive. But they can accept in the private discussions.

Last time I had an interesting conversation with a boy who claimed to be "ativo bem liberal" which means that he kisses and sucks dicks. Some "ativo bem liberal" can even be passivo ...

And do not think that only the small boys are passive: some muscular hairy guys that you would only consider to be active accept to be passive.

Sentence : O qué é que voce faz na cama ? (What do you do in bed ?)

Answer : Tudo : beijo na boca, chupo, como o cu e voce pode comer o meu cu tambem (everything : French kiss, suck, fuck you ass, you can also fuck mine)

[gap1972]

Thanks for the advice and helpful vocabulary demos, Pauleiro !

Went early today around 5. Not very busy yet, only a dozen boys. Most were here yesterday. None triggers my fancy. Waiting is kinda nice, as boys and customers keeps coming in. It's like a box of chocolate, no say what's the next one by 6, it's as busy as yesterday. Two of the three boys I like from yesterday didn't show. One new white boy I like very much, except for the tatoos on his leg, perfect compact college boy type. But he didn't look my way and quickly sat down with a couple. Long wait again. By 7, this place is approaching capacity. All tables are occupied and you can't walk freely in the hallway without bumping into others. Easily 40+ boys, but most too buff for my taste.

The white boy I like went with the couple. I noticed a dark boy just came in, a little too skinny but with a great smile. He is saying hello to a lot of the boys. Not much of a college boy type, a high school drop out perhaps ok but I've had better. He caught my glance and quickly walked over to say hello, giving me a teasing bite on one of my nipples. Not sure if the white boy will be available later, I decide to try this one. There is a waiting list for rooms tonight! Such a bummer. The boy said something about eating and disappeared. I start to feel bad about the deal. I hate tasting other peoples food

The boy came back before too long. It's a 15 min wait and we went up to one of the rooms. He is not as warm as before we made the deal. It's an ok session.

After we showered and come down, he starts hustle me to get him a beer. I am not really in the mood and tell him I am leaving. The white boy is free now. But I can only do one a night. Walked around to see what's new, super crowded, but no one really stand out. It's almost 8, decided to call it a night.

The sun has almost set, so it's much more comfortable outside. It's been close to 40c hot since I came back to Brazil three days ago. Tomorrow will be my last day here, hope it's less packed and some fresh faces.

[gap1972]

Sunday is much quieter. Arrived at 5pm, only a handful of customers and about 10 boys. Again waiting to see who else is coming in is a pleasant wait. More boys keep coming in until 7. A few new faces, one boy I saw before in Lagoa São Paulo.

Since I have a rather particular type, often I just find one or two really appealing to me. Slim, cute, boyish, not fem, and btm or vers. Last year it was pretty good. This year it's so so. There is one white boy whom I saw last night who is quite cute and friendly, but he sat down with a regular client. The boy it saw in São Paulo said hello, he is ok looking, very polite. It's getting late, so I went with him to end the POA trip. So so session.

Waiting for flight to curitiba. It's New Years, don't expect much, just a stop over before heading to São Paulo for the weekend, then head home. Hope Lagoa holds up the game. Then again, it's right after New Years. I should keep my expectations in check. Would be great if Daniel is still there.

[gap1972]

Happy new year to everyone!

New Years is a pretty big family holiday in Brazil. Not a good time to be a tourist, most small restaurants in centro has closed up since the day I arrived (dec 30). Good my hotel is right beside shopping estacao, one of the largest shopping center here, which remains open until afternoon today. It's very up to date with food court rivaling any mall in canada.

With clube 773 not open on Mondays, I Went to 520 sauna yesterday between 6 and 7. The reviews on here are quite accurate. Good facility, but just a handful working boys, a dozen clients. Nothing interesting if you are looking to hire.

Today weather is very pleasant, took a walk to the centro historical. Centro has some nice small squares, but shame so many grand old mansions were now used as shabby store front and some building completely abandoned above bottom floor. Much better than the decay of Havana, still the government should have done better.

Botanic garden is quite small. Not much to see.

Clube 773 doesn't have a website for holiday schedule. It's a 20 min walk from my hotel, so I just stroll over, find it closed.

Will bus to São Paulo on Jan 2. Really should have done it sooner. It's much more cheaper and convenient if it's within 6 hours.

Not much action on grindr either. Will try 773 again tomorrow to see if it's open. Just relax and hope Lagoa will be good after New Years.

[gap1972]

Lesson learned: don't visit curitiba during New Years. Everything closes. Only 3 food joints were open in shopping estacao, waited 45 min to get a burger at Burgerking

Grindr was rather active, but once I told people I stayed in a hotel, the conversation ends. Not sure if both times were just pranks or ...

Didn't bother trying 773 after the long wait for burger should have stayed in floripa, at least the beach is always open. It's a nice city, just my mistake of timing.

Bus ride to SP is very smooth and comfy. No one bought the seat beside me. Only 72R. The taxi ride from floripa airport to hotel alone (night rate) was 50R! Will definitely use it more instead of short flights. Now let' see how SP holds up. Staying for a week.

[gap1972]

Lagoa doesn't disappoint. For the first day after new year, not very busy, still 15 or so boys working at 7pm. Two dark boys are my type. Cute face, slim and smooth. One skinnier than the other. Decided to go with Roberto. Amazing bubble butt, and he knows how to use it looks much better without the cap, but he loves it.

White boys tonight are mostly more built. Only one with a boyish cute looks, too much muscle for me.

As others have posted, if you pay cash, the room is 15r less.

Happily going to bed now. Grindr is also very active. On my way back, several Hookers, maybe man ladies, walking in streets close to my hotel at praca republica. Boys are holding hands and caressing each other in the park during the day earlier. Also a lot of homeless people around. Mega city, so much diversity.

[Theolover]

Thanks for the reports...

[gap1972]

You are welcome, theolover! Reports from other members helped me a lot, so glad to return the favor.

The new year slow down is still in effect. For a Friday night, the one before Christmas was much busier.

Arrived at Lagoa around 6:15 waiting to see boys parade, but only a handful came in until 7:15. About 20 boys in house. I have had mostly dark boys this trip, so really hope for a white twink. But they are in short supply. Only a couple tonight, both a little fem, ok looking. Most white boys are in their mid or upper 20s, with pumped chest and arms. One is decent, not as good looking as Daniel, but attractive, and with a friendly smile. However, he has a lot of regulars, after seeing him going up with two clients, I decided I don't want to go after him tonight.

The boy I had an ok session with before Christmas was there. Not sure I want to do a repeat. He is cute and has a great slim body, but a friendly smile and warmer attitude are missing. Rather do Roberto again, but he is not around tonight.

By 7:45, not seeing more newcomers, I am about to leave without any action. Roberto came in in a yellow tank top. He says hello when he saw me. Good timing. After he promise a better blowjob, we went to a room. He is still not very into giving head, but the faces he makes while getting nailed is so hot! The boy looks much cuter when he is not smiling. I like that he is fresh and a wonderful bottom, but he is not much a talker (via google translate) and gives so so bj. This is the last time I think.

Not too bad. But I am really hoping I get to find a cute white boy before my trip ends.

[gap1972]

Have been chatting with this guy on grindr: rick, who is a local English instructor. Not my type, but he is very nice and I am glad to offer buying him lunch and get some local insight.

After lunch and a stroll along Paulista, it's almost 5pm when I was back in hotel. Feeling tired, not very horny after drilling Roberto two nights in a row, but I am here in Brazil on a Saturday night, can't help but going to Lagoa to at least watch the boy parade

Arrived at 6:20 pm. The holiday slump continues. There are more clients than boys. Again only a handful came in by 7:30. Among the boys already in house, white twinks are still in short supply. One of them is ok, if I am horny but he is occupied with a regular. There is a dark twink boy I haven't seen before, cute face, friendly smile. As attractive as Roberto for me, a possibility later.

Almost at eight o'clock, a pair of new boys came in. One apparently guiding the other, who is a first timer. Great looking face, very much reminding me those ancient Greek sculptures. I am immediately intrigued. The dark boy guiding him is also cute, but lack of any smile on his face. Once they strip and get in towels, the Greek looking boy turns out rather soft in the middle, disappointing

Roberto is there again. But his lack of interest in giving great head means there won't be any more sessions. He is somewhat disappointed, but probably clear why it is. The other dark boy is busy on his cell phone, not catching my look as I walk by. Have been with almost all dark boys on this trip, I decided to call it a night.

After a few showers, the air is fresh and cool. Going to try out hornet app rick recommended. Even though no action tonight, where else in the world can you watch boys strutting their stuff for 40R?

Tonight I am going to try out mvan1's favorite: fragata.

[gap1972]

Just had the best 2 hours in brazil, hard to wipe the smile off my face.

Ricardo recommended hornet app for hookups. Being Brazilian, he has no judgement of people making money by offering sex. So he encouraged me to put hint of money in my ad. I add a few boys I like very much as favorites, and vola, one of them soon replied! As I mentioned, I really like the college boy next door type, Raul fits the bill perfectly. 5'9", 143lb, clean cut, cute like a button. He hasn't done this before, but was intrigued. He asks to see my photo, said 'legal'. we settled on 200 per hour. It's amazing how open minded Brazilians are about sex for money, the boy gave me the link to his instagram so that I can get a more accurate views of how he looks to help me making up my mind. It has his family photos, classmates, friends ...

He shows up a little late, probably it's normal for Brazilian to be almost an hour late difference between a fresh first year law student and a working boy is day and night. He is apparently having a lot of fun doing it. First starting having sex at 16, the boy is now 20. He is an amazing bottom (versatile, prefer btm as he put it), loves sucking dick without me asking. As we get into fucking, at first I was a little confused by the face and moaning, not sure it's pain or he is really enjoying it, but soon he made it clear he loves it. We changed several positions and finished with him sitting on top of me. I love the seriousness look he has on his face while pumping my cock with his ass.

We showered and then cuddles and chat via google translate. He is a very sweet boy, proud that he is so good in high school that he got a scholarship for law school. He asks me what I would pay him for overnight. I said 500 but he challenges it is too low. I kid saying I can't really afford overnight with you. We eventually settled on 800. As we are cuddling and kissing, he started to touch my cock and said he really wants me to fuck him again. This is somewhat new, working boys can't wait to finish their "job" and get to the next client. It lasted even longer second time around. He jerked himself off in the end while I was fucking him with him on his back. Afterwards closed his eyes with a big smile on his face.

We already decided we will do the overnight on wed, my last day here. It's almost good 2 hours after we showered again, I tipped him good for a wonderful afternoon and said goodbye. The front desk lady is all smiles as we say goodbye at the front desk. So open minded!

It's rain shower outside. But I am not going anywhere tonight, so it's perfect Love Brazil!

[MsGuy]

Way to go, Gap!!

[axiom2001]

Gap, your writing about the smile of the lady at the front desk reminded me of when my tall, big dicked, Italian/Brasilian escort I saw in Rio in 2010 at the Hotel Atlantico Copacabana. When he and I walked through the slightly expansive lobby, the head male assistant gave me a thumbs up from afar as we passed. I was amazed because although he and I had related well, he seemed slightly strange when he'd seen me with another visitor or when he and I had discussed other issues. As they say in Australia: "Good on you!" !

PS Is the fee that you gave that young twink a little much? Is R$800 a lot also for an overnight? I'm just curious!!

[trzinko]

i have also noted, that the prices that you mention were completely out of tomcal's guidelines......

is there any picture of your beauty?

[gap1972]

Oi, ax! I only had one overnight before, with maikon last year. Maikon worked saunas, asked for 400. I see popular boys hook up with 3 clients in a couple hours on a good night. So i think that's reasonable. One could bargain for 300, but I hate bargaining with the boys when it's already so economical. Raul doesn't work saunas, has a law related intern job during the day while he is on summer break and we agreed on 200 per hour. So it doesn't seem out of the line for him to ask for 800 for the night. Plus I really like him. Unlike you lucky folks, this is only once a year thing for me

Perfect day today to take a stroll in their Central Park (ibirapuera). 26c when I walked over in the morning with a light breeze in the shades, very pleasant. The view of the city from the park is quite pretty. Saw quite a few cute guys. And the upscale houses and condos between Paulista and Ibirapuera park are very nice!

One draw back from yesterday is I am not horny at all today. Also tired after the long walk. Raul msged to reschedule to tomorrow instead of Wednesday. So will be skipping sauna tonight and tomorrow. Pity won't be visiting Fragata this time. According to mvan1, Sunday and Tuesdays are the best bets there.

Just saw your question, trzinko. Out of respect for Raul's privacy, I can't post his photo on this site. Plus that's not the point. Beauty is in the eyes of beholder. Price wise, tomcal seems to get the local price Good luck if you can manage to get that. In the end, 800r is merely 360 Canadian, a small price to pay in my opinion.

[ihpguy]

Helped a friend bargaining for an overnight this past November, two months ago.

The guys at both 117 and Meio Mundo have raised their asked prices to 350-400Reais. But depending on your response or facial expression with lower it to 150-200 for the night without much prompting. They will be expecting some type of meal, drinks and some breakfast/cafe da manha.

The best way to handle this is NOT TO BARGAIN AT ALL.

Just tell them, whatever price for the night and the next morning and exactly what you are willing to fork over. Do Not Ask.

I repeat...just tell them.

[ihpguy]

Keep in mind that the minimum monthly salary in the state of Rio de Janeiro for 2013 was under 700Reais/month for four full weeks of work. For sleeping with you for only ONE NIGHT, 2-3 sex sessions, they are getting a couple of meals and more or less, one weeks pay. Not too bad of an exchange.

[gap1972]

Shouldn't have mentioned how much I paid raul. Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers. Now the local authority has spoken about the price locals pay, keep a reference

It's not surprising though for there to be a difference between locals and short term tourists. The opportunity cost for tourists are much higher with the flights and hotel cost. Therefore the extra 20r in the sauna or 150r for the night seems trivial.

There is also a big difference between fucking and making love. Most of the times with boys in the sauna, it's like eating a big-Mac burger. Quickly heal you your hunger, then you move on not giving it a second thought. Occasionally, however, you met a boy who has not become completely jaded yet, there are tender kisses and sincere eye contact. It's not love, just love making. Only Then I will do an overnight. On Those occasions, I don't mind at all paying a premium.

Most of the time we eat combo meals. Then sometimes, we dine out.

My plan with Raul falls through since there is no double room left in the hotel. While the day shift lady is super nice, I just pay them extra 20 for my guest, the night shift manager speaks English, but clearly not fond of visitors. On my first night here, she told me since I booked a room for 'single person', I can only meet my guest in the lobby! We decided to do a repeat of two hour session tomorrow since he has to go to his job early on Thursday.

So I went to fragata after all at 5:45. Man, I have been looking for the twink parade at the wrong sauna! There are already 20+ boys working! and 3/4 of them are the slim twinks type! Skin tone here is a little darker, but there are quite a few cute white boys too. I am pleasantly surprised with the choices here if you been to Montreal strip clubs, it's like fragata is campus (toned, slim), Lagoa is stock (built, muscle). I made a quick mistake sitting down with Thiago. He is cute, but clearly the jaded type. quite forward, he quickly led my hands to his dick and sampled kisses and stuff. I always feel obligated if I have kissed a boy. And he is turning me on. He saw me checking out other boys passing by, after some begging and promising 'completo, todo', he checked my key number and went getting the room himself. It's a little rude, but I guess so was I being the sampler but no buyer So be it, a burger is a burger

Afterwards, I stayed for a while just checking things out, there are at least two other boys, one white, one dark skinned, that I would have preferred. Hopefully they will be here again on Thursday. This place seems happening earlier than Lagoa, it's already packed by 5:45 when I arrived. About a dozen more boys arrived since and some boys and customers are leaving already by 7pm. There doe not seem to be much overlapping between the two places. I don't think I recognized any Lagoa boys here. Now I know where I would be before heading to airport Thursday night

[axiom2001]

Gap72, from my point of view, you did "not ruffle any feathers" when you mentioned cost; I was principally perplexed based on all of the cost threads that have appeared at this site as well as at http:www.daddysreviews.com. If you choose to give the guy's their requested fee based on your queries about it, it's all right we me, personally. I can again write that I have truly enjoyed reading about your experiences and hope that you'll continue to do so. And for the record, I AM NOT one of the "lucky ones" who can travel to Brasil at will or whenever. My last trip, my ninth or tenth, there was in 2011, and it looks like if I return it will be in 2015.

Suggestion: Did you and Raul think about going to a sexo motel for more than an hour to enjoy yourselves? I've never been to one but have read that if the hotel's personnel is not amenable to one's having guests and you prefer to play outside of the saunas, that's another alternative!

Truly and super-enjoy your last days. {An afterthought: You could have given Thiago R$5 to R$10 for having spent time with him and NOT have gone to the cabine with him. Those types of things were suggested to me via this site as well as the other in terms of the do's and don'ts while at the saunas!} - -

[trzinko]

I agree with you that there is a substatial difference between

Burger and a steak. I am flying out to brazil tonight. And would

Defenitely prefer also to meet namorado instead of garoto.

I would also pay more, but how to find....

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

thank you for your reports. I thought I would chime in on the whole "namorado" aspect as well as overnights. My last visit to Rio was a year and a half ago, so slightly out of date. I met a boy at Meio Mundo (thanks to our ambassador, Tomcal) who was definitely in the namorado category. Very sweet, tender, loving, but also a power bottom ready to take on a train at any time. We spent several days/nights together outside of the saunas. He took me to LeBoy disco and spent the night. Another day he met me for lunch and stayed with me until around 6pm.. And on both of the "out of the sauna" encounters, I gave him somewhere around $R150. He was happy with that amount.. Of course I paid for a meal or two, and drinks at LeBoy as well. The boy I refer to is Diogo, who I posted several pictures of in previous threads.

One of the best pieces of advice I learned from Tomcal is to treat the boys with respect and not just as a piece of ass (or meat) and it goes a long way.

[MsGuy]

One of the best pieces of advice I learned from Tomcal is to treat the boys with respect and not just as a piece of ass (or meat) and it goes a long way.

Courtesy & respect go a long ways, not just with garatos and not just in Brazil.

[ihpguy]

if not....you might be a candidate for a one-way favela tour.