Take a look at Gay Las Vegas and Gay Florianópolis

[TotallyOz]

Take a look at the articles and the listings for:

http://gaylasvegas.boytoy.com

http://www.boytoy.com/forums/index.php?/forum/180-gay-las-vegas/

and

http://gayflorianopolis.boytoy.com

http://www.boytoy.com/forums/index.php?/forum/269-gay-florianopolis/

[JKane]

I have several problems with http://gaylasvegas.boytoy.com/

"Legal prostitution is one of the main reasons, other than gambling, that men cum to Las Vegas. While technically illegal in the city itself, as soon as you step outside the city limits it’s completely legal – and you can easily find the boys of your wet dreams."

NOT my understanding. If you look deeper you'll see it is illegal throughout Clark county and all of the more populated counties in Nevada. There's actually a population cutoff in the statute, if I recall. Which is why the brothels are in east bumfuck...

"Rent boys also work most of the casino bars and are tolerated by the local police as long as they are not too obvious – which in Las Vegas is nearly impossible. All of the local gay publications also list hard-bodied rent boys willing to cum to your hotel room and service you."

"Getting ripped off by boy toys is almost unheard of in the City of Sin – because the police do everything in their power to make sure nobody bothers the tourists."

NOT at all my experience--because of the transient nature it's my experience (and I believe others here as well) that it's often hard to find good working boys in Vegas. Many realize they don't have to work at repeat business and can down right rip people off because there's a shiny new batch of tourists to take advantage of next week... There are guys with 10+ year old pictures (which *never* looked like them, I'd bet real money!) on Rentboy who've always had a bad reputation but bilk guys out of enough every month to stay in business.

"So, if you have a good night at the tables, get ready to buy some boy booty and fuck the night away!"

Now that's a recipe for disaster! After getting good and liquored up (whiskey dick making the whole thing a farce) and with a lot of spare cash on your person... take somebody (and there won't be many options, so really take anybody) back to your room... ...and hope that when you wake up you still have at least your ID so you can get home?

The whole write up seems based in the past. I've only seen a couple working girls in the strip casinos and have yet to see a working guy. On the real strip that is. Maybe things are a little different in the ghetto once you get past the Wynn (Circus Circus, Riviera, Stratosphere), but even in the downtown casinos I haven't seen anything obvious in 10+ years... Much like SMB in Hollywood, I used to see a couple guys working the streets downtown but haven't even seen that in years.

The Rio skyshow thing was unbelievably sad when I saw it for the first time a year ago, and Zumanity was much less erotic than I'd hoped... with the homoerotic almost entirely stripped out for John and Jane Midwest in the audience. Now there are a couple actual gay clubs--bigger than many in WeHo, but a similar young crowd mostly only interested in their own clones, still, interesting--some have gogo boys but I don't know of any with lap dances... And of course what was to be the biggest gay club seems to have crashed and burned...

Those are my perspectives anyway, I go 2-3 times a year, and was there a couple months ago.

One bright spot, no matter how much they suck elsewhere, is that the large local gay population (performers, servers, etc) plus all the curious visitors can make things like Grinder and Craigslist much more worthwhile than anywhere else. My advice would be first and foremost, try for some free fun--you may be pleasantly surprised, if not, stick to reviewed escorts--here more than anywhere, or better yet, bring somebody with you.

[TownsendPLocke]

As Jkane mentioned above- prostitution is NOT legal in Clark county. Entrapment(both the boys and the johns) by the LVPD is still a very real everyday thing in Las Vegas.

""Getting ripped off by boy toys is almost unheard of in the City of Sin – because the police do everything in their power to make sure nobody bothers the tourists." =the total opposite of reality

"but I don't know of any with lap dances" Share has lap dances. It is the only club right now that is gay owned that actually regularly has go go boys that are happy to keep you company. Please note that this is NOT Montreal so don't expect Hanky Panky in the (not at all private)private rooms

[JKane]

Townie, you're even more experienced than me with Vegas...

And you once mentioned finding a guy down on his luck and helping him out in a casino in the past, but have you ever seen a guy working a bar/etc in a strip casino like the women occasionally do? I've mostly just hung out in a couple bars, and been propositioned by working girls twice in a bar, maybe noticed another there once, and have seen one on the floor of the casino. But never once noticed a guy... you? Lately?

Which casino would you say is gay friendliest? I would bet a lot of the casino spa/gyms and even pools are a bit cruisy, especially if you have a hot young body. Mandalay's spa was actually advertising to gay patrons one of the times I was there... And as I said, even if you don't, there's fun to be had through CL/Grinder/Etc anyway, if you're patient.

I've not yet tried cruising the 'fruit loop', is there anything for-hire there, regularly?

[JKane]

The biggest problem with the article is the portrayal of Vegas as accepting of prostitution (it really isn't, though given the population there's nothing they can do to eliminate it, but make no mistake--neither the casinos nor the police turn a blind eye, in my experience...) and of Vegas as overall welcoming towards gays. It is slowly changing, but people don't realize at heart Vegas is a rather conservative/Mormon town. You can't tell from the strip, but if you spend any time in town it becomes pretty obvious.

Also, this picture I found online illustrates the 'fruit loop'.

[TotallyOz]

Thank you guys for all the edits and suggestions. I appreciate the words here. This article was written quite a while back. There were several that used the edit feature on the City Guides to correct some issues. THANK YOU! Much appreciated. Please keep the edits and suggestions coming. For those that don't know, if you are logged into the site, be sure to click the EDIT button on all the city guides. You can then make changes for others that make the article even better.

As for the bars, I picked up 2 guys there last year in my hotel. I thought this was pretty common. I guess I just look like a good mark.

[AdamSmith]

Last December I got solicited at a craps table in Tropicana by an attractive Asian TVTS (M2F) escort.

And got picked up (!) by a fellow patron at Fun Hog Ranch. See the thread on that establishment for how mgt there took a dim view of our shenanigans in the restroom. Even though he and I were the only 2 patrons in the place, there at 10:30 in the morning. And we were being very quiet!

But in 3 weeks of drifting around town I saw no evidence of working guys in casinos or Fun Hog or Garage. And I was looking.

I have to figure out how to look like more of a mark.

[Guest EXPAT]

those edit buttons are still not there.

[TotallyOz]

those edit buttons are still not there.

If you are on the city and don't see the edit button, look up to the top and see if you are logged in. If so, or if not, log in and click the city from the homepage and it should work perfectly. It did for me. But, I am only keeping my fingers crossed it does the same for you as it has been a long week with programmers.

[Guest EXPAT]

Here is a weird thing. When I go to "HOME" from the message center then I stay logged in and I can see the edit button.

But when I click on your link from your initial post above it takes me to the city page and I'm no longer logged in so I don't see the edit button. That seems weird to me. Usually when you open a new window on the same site you stay logged in. But that was why I wasn't seeing the edit button.

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

When I first looked at the Vegas listing, the button did not appear.. even though i was signed in on the forums. I went to the top of the page, and signed in again, and viola, the edit button appeared..

[TotallyOz]

Yes, you are both right. Here is what is happening. We had left the edit button open for all. But, that just got 1,000 spammers putting in BS. I had to individually remove each one. So, we worked out a way to have the edit button for only logged in members. But, a "key" is given to the members when they go to that guides as it is a different subdomain. In other words, it is a lot of work and we are working hard on it. But, if you click the city guides from the homepage, they work well. At least for me. If not, we have even more work to do.

[RA1]

The biggest problem with the article is the portrayal of Vegas as accepting of prostitution (it really isn't, though given the population there's nothing they can do to eliminate it, but make no mistake--neither the casinos nor the police turn a blind eye, in my experience...) and of Vegas as overall welcoming towards gays. It is slowly changing, but people don't realize at heart Vegas is a rather conservative/Mormon town. You can't tell from the strip, but if you spend any time in town it becomes pretty obvious.

I used to go to Las Vegas at least once a month on business and other times "just for fun". But that was a long time ago. Over the time I met various "ordinary" folks who lived there, wives of executives and others. It was interesting to hear their perspective on living there. They almost never went to the old or new strip, lived in the burbs and shopped at the local grocery store, etc. This person in particular was the aunt of someone I knew in MEM. She was the wife of the president of one of the hotel/casinos on the new strip. She was thrilled when we came to town and we all were invited to see a show. As I recall it was Mitzi Gaynor. As I said, a long time ago.

Just a long way of agreeing that this is a conservative town once away from the tourists and those that support that trade. Of course, that is a LOT of folks.

Best regards,

RA1

[lookin]

I have to figure out how to look like more of a mark.

[AdamSmith]

Ah, right -- or a marquesa.

[JKane]

Just tried, and got 'error to add edit'. Luckily I copied first, hopefully the tone didn't change too much, certainly needs some editing to be consistant.

Welcome to boytoy’s guide to the fabulous city of Las Vegas! What’s not to love about a town where Celine Dion lives, and even straight boys go to drag shows!

Vegas is one of the most popular vacation destinations in the world – for one very good reason – you can do anyone or anything here you want.

As they say, “What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas.”

Located out in the middle of the Nevada desert, Las Vegas is where you want to go if what you want to do is illegal where you live. Nearly anything can be found here for a price.

In short, Las Vegas is your wet dream vacation. But not all is as it seems. What might seem the gayest place in America at first glance, behind the scenes, is instead both very corporate and very conservative. So while there's a big increase in gay friendly activities, parties, etc. at the casinos and clubs lately (because there's money in us gays!), there is still a very socially conservative heart to the town, rooted in Mormonism, which can become quite obvious if you cross the law or venture far enough from the Strip.

Then there is the weather: Vegas is hot – seriously! The temperatures often break the 100-degree mark, and it’s a dry heat. You’ll want to wear plenty of sunscreen! Sometimes the wind blows, and it's not cooling like you'd expect... it's like somebody's pointed a big hair dryer at your face and then dropped some sand into it for good measure! That said, you’ll spend almost all your time indoors – and Vegas keeps it cool with the strongest and most advanced air conditioning systems known to mankind. And the massive pool complexes at most casinos have high walls to keep out the wind and lots of great eye candy to see (though some things you'd rather not see too). But again, remember your sunscreen!

Yet fun really does abound, so learn what to expect, cash a paycheck (hundreds are fine, everybody here takes 'em!) and let boytoy.com guide you to The Entertainment Capital Of The World – Las Vegas!

The Fruit Loop

Believe it or not, Las Vegas doesn’t have a gay neighborhood. That’s because most of the population is transient, and the city has been built helter-skelter with minimal zoning laws.

On the other hand, most of the gay-owned and operated businesses are in one part of the city called the Fruit Loop. Less than five minutes from the Las Vegas Strip, the Fruit Loop starts on Patterson Street behind the Hard Rock Cafe and Casino.

Here you’ll find 24-hour gay bars, gyms, fetish clothing stores, nightclubs, saunas and tons of man meat trying their luck on the local boys and tourists alike.

There is a lot of competition among the ever-changing clubs on the strip, so you might want to check out what each and every one has to offer. All you can drink for $15 nights are popular, as are underwear parties, full-nude parties, Go-Go boy nights, fetish festivals and pretty much anything and everything a hot fag looking to get fucked could ever want from the club scene!

One thing to beware of though, it can be hard to find a taxi in this part of town once it gets late. Even if you walk to Hard Rock there can be many, many more people in the taxi stand line than there are cabs. And it's a long, dark shlep back to the strip. Still, it's better than a DUI, because there's no debate those laws are rigidly enforced here!

Hawk’s Gym

Hawk’s Gym, on East Sahara Street, is famous for being Las Vegas’ only gym and nightclub owned by gay men, exclusively for gay men.

This place is exclusively for gay boys, drag queens, burly bears, and tight twinks. It features lots of exercise equipment, saunas, black out rooms, lounges and even a dungeon!

The boys get very down and dirty here – and the torture room gives a new meaning to “No pain. No gain.”

You know you want it darlings!

Keeping Up With The Gays!

Because the clubs are constantly opening and closing and the circuit scene never stays the same for more than a week or two, you need to pick a gay publications as soon as you get into Vegas.

Otherwise, you’ll have no idea where to go – and might end up wasting your night talking to vacuum cleaner salesmen from Idaho about his gambling addictions!

They all include maps to the current gay hot spots, guides to the different popular gay clubs, and shops that fulfill your personal fetishes. They are available at nearly any newsstand and will make your gay vacation as fantastic as humanly possible!

Rent Boys

Prostitution is technically illegal most everywhere in Nevada (despite public perception), especially in the city itself. Stings against working guys are fairly common, and may even be a bit disproportionate because some anti-gay sentiment persists in the city.

Still, there are many options. There are generic 'adult papers' everywhere with some men's ads in the back, the specifically gay publications mentioned above which have quite a few "hard-bodied rent boys willing to cum to your hotel room", and plenty of guys on sites like Rentboy. There are also reports of the occasional rent boys working some of the casino bars, or streets around downtown or the fruit loop.

Sadly, getting ripped off by rent boys found through any of those options is actually pretty common. The constant flow of tourists through the city is seen an all you can eat 'mark' buffet by many hustlers. The way they see it, there's little point in working hard to build repeat customers (since most clients are just visiting short term) and luckily for the hustlers, not many clients know how to check places like this site for the low-down before hiring. More than any other place, Vegas is one where you need to think with the big head - check for reviews, especially at Rentboy prices.

Instead though, many of us have had a good night out, maybe won some money, had plenty of free booze, then decided we want to have some fun and start calling every number we can find in the papers or on Rentboy. And better odds than any table on the strip, what arrives will not look like the picture, will not be specific about anything (there are a lot of stings...), will want money up front, and will leave you sourly disappointed - IF you are lucky.

But where Vegas shines is as a place to take a boy toy you already cherish. You can both have plenty of fun then go back to a very well appointed room with a great shower/bath, bed, and view. And clean sheets every morning!

If you don't have a boy toy handy, Vegas can still satisfy! An honest post about who you are, what fetishes you may fall into, and what you're looking for may just get you a visit with a boy of your dreams - for free! Vegas is really the place to give anything a try, so do it! Craigslist, Grinder, Adam4Adam and whatever else didn't work for you at home may just be a revelation in Vegas. And if that doesn't work, the working guys of backpage.com and craigslist.org are often far more deserving of (and hungry for) your cash than the jaded old hustlers who can afford to advertise in Vegas. Just take precautions (money/valuables hidden/in safe) and play safe!

The Las Vegas Strip

If you’ve cum to Las Vegas to gamble, the Las Vegas Strip is where you’ll want to go first – and probably where you’ll want to stay.

This fantastic, four-mile section of Las Vegas Boulevard South is where all the best mega-casinos are located, and where you’ll find the best shows in town – including Celine Dion, La Cage Aux Folles, Elton John, and Cirque de Soleil.

It will cost you about $100 to see any of the shows – but if you play at the tables for most of the day, you have a good chance of getting a free ticket.

Booze is free at all of the hotels as long as you are on the casino floor, either participating in a game or watching a friend – but you’ll want to tip the cocktail waitresses who have to spend hours in the tackiest and most painful heels known to man. Why can't any of the hotels have cocktail boys in those skimpy outfits?

While on the Las Vegas Strip, you’ll want to check out the fabulous Fountains at the Bellagio, the full-size replica of the Eiffel Tower, and the working volcano at The Mirage Casino.

It may be the most divine street ever created by straight people!

Fremont Street

I’ve always said that every few years, everyone and everything needs a makeover.

Fremont Street just proves my point – it looks like a section of Vegas redone by the Queer Eye studs!

For years, Fremont Street was the place to gamble in downtown Las Vegas. Then in 1989, they started building the fabulous mega-casinos on the Las Vegas Strip and the downtown became much less popular.

Out of that, the city decided to create The Fremont Street Experience – a five-block-long nightly light and music extravaganza.

The luscious lights are projected on a 1,400-foot-long canopy that is suspended 90 feet above the street. Then, each night at dusk, the shows begin with a cacophony of lights and sounds.

There are tons of delicious shows every night – ranging from a patriotic tribute to America to “Area 51,” where they make it look like space aliens are invading the city.

More than 2.1 million light bulbs are needed to make sure the show will go on and make sure you are blown away by its total and utter fabulousness!

Beaux Arts Ball

Every Halloween the gay boys cum out to play at the Beaux Arts Ball. This fantastic party has been going on for more than 40 years, and was one of the first public gay events ever held in America.

It started out as one night a year in which all the chorus boys and backstage fags from the Vegas shows could let their hair down, mix, mingle and maul each other’s toned bodies. Since then, it’s become an anticipated annual event that is fully open to the public.

Be warned, however, this is where the most beautiful boys and outrageous drag queens come out to play – so you’ll want to make sure you look the most fabulous you possibly can.

Chorus boys can be so bitchy, but you know you’ll want to throw them your bone!

La Cage

La Cage is quite simply the most dragulous show in Las Vegas.

It’s what you want to see if you are a drag queen, a wannabe or a fan of “ladies” with a little extra between their legs.

The highlight of the show is Frank Marino doing a picture-perfect, dragtastic version of Joan Rivers – but the entire performance is full of some of the best drag queens in America.

You’ll run home afterwards, needing to redo your makeup and wondering how you’ll ever be able to compete with these divine divas!

Cirque De Soleil

Imagine spending the evening watching oiled sweaty men and ballerina bodied women leap in the air, swing from trapezes and bend their barely clothed bodies into the most unlikely positions possible!

That is the divine beauty of Cirque De Soleil, the most popular attraction in Las Vegas.

You’d think it would be impossible to have an attraction be even more fantastic and fabulous for Friends of Dorothy than nightly Elton John and Celine Dion shows, but Cirque De Soleil is it.

There are at least six Cirque De Soleil shows going on at any given time, but you’ll want to get your tickets for the adults-only Zumanity Show – where the men get naked and bend over exactly the way you want them to!

Oh! The Zumanity!

Drag Yourself Down To The Strip!

Don’t gamble with your next vacation!

BoyToy commands you to cum to attention and visit Las Vegas where you can drink, screw, and gamble the night away – while being surrounded by gay icons, delicious drag queens, and lots of hot boys roasting in the sun!

cc boytoy.com 2013

[lookin]

-- or a marquesa.

The Belle of the Casino, MadamSmith feels lucky tonight.

[JKane]

Tried to paste my edit in again, same error.

[TotallyOz]

Progress is being made. We are like the tortoise. We are slow but steady!

If you clear your cache and your cookies for the site, you will now see the edit button with logged in. We tested this on 10 different browsers today.

JKane's excellent edits are not there yet as the programmers are still working on the ability for "special characters" to be added inside the article.

However, if you just type the words into the article, they should work for them. However, we are still working on this and I spent 3 hours with the programmers on screen sharing with Skype today testing this and working out the kinks.

Now, I like some of you like kink but we are going to weed it out of the "edit" feature ASAP.

[JKane]

Glad to hear you're whipping things into shape!

Wasn't aware I'd used special characters... but it'll go up eventually, it sounds like.

RSN I'll start looking through the couple other cities I have experience of...