Guest parisrio2000 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 So a lot of older gay guys hit on me. I act completely straight and go out mostly with girls. But they hit on me and I'm wondering how I can take advantage of this. I'd be up to exchange sexual favors for money or gifts but I'm not sure how to go about it. I've never done this before. Should I just come out with it and proposition them and tell them that it's go if they pay, or should I let them take me out first, etc.; I don't really like this approach because it's womanlike but I thought that if they're hitting on a young straight guy, that it's pretty much assumed it will be in exchange for something? Or is that not assumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest parisrio2000 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 for your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BigK Posted September 28, 2013 Members Share Posted September 28, 2013 I think you've got the right idea. Be upfront, don't pretend it's a date. By all means offer to have a drink off the clock to be sociable, then mention something like how hard a time you are having paying a bill. Everyone knows what you're saying (I need to be paid), and they should make it clear pretty quickly that they're willing to pay. I agree with your premise that if they are hitting on an apparently straight guy, they would expect to have to offer you something to play. But if they're hitting on you don't you think they might already have an idea that you'd swing their way? I know that some gays have the fantasy of converting a straight guy, but I really think that is a small minority. Most gay guys want to play with another gay guy who's into having sex with guys. If you look like the picture you posted, I'd be thrilled if you responded to my hitting on you. What the hell...you wouldn't even have to look like that picture for me to be thrilled if you responded to my hitting on you. Of course, most of us older guys wouldn't even think of hitting on you because we wouldn't consider our odds of success very good. So possibly, the older gay guys hitting on your are very sure of themselves and assume that you'd want to play with them for free. You'd probably do better doing the hitting on older gay guys who aren't hitting on you because they'd be blown away by your interest in them. Have fun. You certainly seem to have the right attitude. TotallyOz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest parisrio2000 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I think you've got the right idea. Be upfront, don't pretend it's a date. By all means offer to have a drink off the clock to be sociable, then mention something like how hard a time you are having paying a bill. Everyone knows what you're saying (I need to be paid), and they should make it clear pretty quickly that they're willing to pay. I agree with your premise that if they are hitting on an apparently straight guy, they would expect to have to offer you something to play. But if they're hitting on you don't you think they might already have an idea that you'd swing their way? I know that some gays have the fantasy of converting a straight guy, but I really think that is a small minority. Most gay guys want to play with another gay guy who's into having sex with guys. If you look like the picture you posted, I'd be thrilled if you responded to my hitting on you. What the hell...you wouldn't even have to look like that picture for me to be thrilled if you responded to my hitting on you. Of course, most of us older guys wouldn't even think of hitting on you because we wouldn't consider our odds of success very good. So possibly, the older gay guys hitting on your are very sure of themselves and assume that you'd want to play with them for free. You'd probably do better doing the hitting on older gay guys who aren't hitting on you because they'd be blown away by your interest in them. Have fun. You certainly seem to have the right attitude. Thanks for advice. Well people don't guess I swing both ways, and actually I've told this to girls outright and they just don't believe me/think I'm joking. Not to be arrogant, but I'm good looking so I get a lot of attention and I guess older gay guys hit on me or even if they don't approach, they stare and make their interest known. I could really use the cash and actually the idea of getting paid turns me on a bit. Here's the other thing though. It's not really worth it to me to do this a couple of times and make a few hundred. If I do it I'd like to make a lot more. I know you have to start somewhere, and building a client base is complicated. But here's my problem. If I approach them or let them know upfront I'd do it for money, won't they assume I'm a pro (which I'm not, at least not yet). And if they assume this, won't they just give a lower price? On the other hand if they approach me and I let them "convince" me, won't they pay me a lot more? I have an acquaintance in California who was paid an astronomical sum for a weekend. I'd like that for sure, much better than turning tricks for a couple of hundred Also I think of myself in this situation when I'm older. If I have money I'd like to take a younger guy out, spoil him, etc., but would be somewhat turned off and disappointed if he asked for cash upfront or if I found out he was a pro escort. I'd be inclined to pay better and be more generous to guys who haven't tried this before and who, though understanding it's a business arrangement, won't be "all business" about it in attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted September 29, 2013 Members Share Posted September 29, 2013 My husband twice was hit on at Meo Mundo by older customers. Should he now escort? Ha! It's a package deal- I collect the money, he does the work! RA1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PasadenaCA Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 So a lot of older gay guys hit on me. I act completely straight and go out mostly with girls. But they hit on me and I'm wondering how I can take advantage of this. I'd be up to exchange sexual favors for money or gifts but I'm not sure how to go about it. I've never done this before. Should I just come out with it and proposition them and tell them that it's go if they pay, or should I let them take me out first, etc.; I don't really like this approach because it's womanlike but I thought that if they're hitting on a young straight guy, that it's pretty much assumed it will be in exchange for something? Or is that not assumed. Where do you live? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Oh my your husband must be a hottie.. And that says something about you being hot too.. You are really lucky, Lucky My husband twice was hit on at Meo Mundo by older customers. Should he now escort? Ha! It's a package deal- I collect the money, he does the work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 I'm confused.. Is this you or are you saying that you look like him? Anyways, even though he is hot, his face is a bit sad.. I hope he could cheer up a little.. for your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest epigonos Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 If you are really considering going pro take some time and read the ads on rentboy. Check out this site and Daddy's and read what both escorts and clients have to say about escorting. Determine exactly what you are willing to do and exactly what you are not willing to do and finally decide when you expect to be paid for what you will do. Since you have posted a face photograph here seriously consider putting up an ad on rentboy and make the plunge. One very serious warning is be certain that you ENJOY having sex with a man because if you don't it will show and you will turn off every client. My final comment is you obviously have the face and body to make it escorting but be damn sure you also have the mind and attitude to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest parisrio2000 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 If you are really considering going pro take some time and read the ads on rentboy. Check out this site and Daddy's and read what both escorts and clients have to say about escorting. Determine exactly what you are willing to do and exactly what you are not willing to do and finally decide when you expect to be paid for what you will do. Since you have posted a face photograph here seriously consider putting up an ad on rentboy and make the plunge. One very serious warning is be certain that you ENJOY having sex with a man because if you don't it will show and you will turn off every client. My final comment is you obviously have the face and body to make it escorting but be damn sure you also have the mind and attitude to do so. Whoah I certainly didn't mean to imply that the model in this photo is me...I just put up a pic for eye candy for you guys "for your time." I'm reluctant to post an ad for being a pro escort for the reasons I mentioned above. I'd rather do it informally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted September 30, 2013 Members Share Posted September 30, 2013 So, who is pictured? Damn hot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NCBored Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 So, who is pictured? Damn hot! His name is Vince Sant: http://www.underwearexpert.com/2013/03/washboard-abs-vince-sant/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest epigonos Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 You know Parisrio after reading all your post I have come to the conclusion that the best advice I can give your regarding becoming an escort is DON'T DO IT!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest parisrio2000 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 You know Parisrio after reading all your post I have come to the conclusion that the best advice I can give your regarding becoming an escort is DON'T DO IT!!!!! Why is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest epigonos Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 You have way too many caveats and are way too skittish. The attached eye candy photo was NOT a good idea. If you really wanted to escort you would forget about the older guys who you think are hitting on you. You would run some ads on escort sites and get going. The guys who contact you from your ads on would be looking to hire you and you won’t have to assume a damn thing – they are definitely into hiring for fun and games. If you really ARE serious put up some ad, post here where you live and work and cease the drama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest parisrio2000 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 You have way too many caveats and are way too skittish. The attached eye candy photo was NOT a good idea. If you really wanted to escort you would forget about the older guys who you think are hitting on you. You would run some ads on escort sites and get going. The guys who contact you from your ads on would be looking to hire you and you won’t have to assume a damn thing – they are definitely into hiring for fun and games. If you really ARE serious put up some ad, post here where you live and work and cease the drama. But I'm not trying to use the site to find clients, just to get some advice. There's no drama. I don't want to put up ads because I'm concerned about my privacy and also for the reasons I explained above. I'm not a pro, don't want to be a "pro," and I don't believe I can get a good price for going the pro route. I'm not trying to take advantage of anyone, but I've explained the whole process at least twice, so I don't see what the problem is. The world isn't divided between pro escorts with ads on sites and guys who don't escort at all. There's a middle range of non-pro guys who may do this if they like the client/if offer is high enough. I know because I've been offered money before by guys, but didn't go through with it. But what they offered me was above the "market rate." While I don't want to take advantage of anyone, I also don't want to get taken advantage of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest parisrio2000 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Also why was the attached photo not a good idea? It seems like a nice gesture. Here's another one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zipperzone Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 parisrio2000: Give it up. I agree with others that say you are too skittish. I think the idea of being wanted by others who are willing to pay you for it, is a fantasy you have and it probably boosts your ego. But trust me on this - I don't think you really have the balls to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest parisrio2000 Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 parisrio2000: Give it up. I agree with others that say you are too skittish. I think the idea of being wanted by others who are willing to pay you for it, is a fantasy you have and it probably boosts your ego. But trust me on this - I don't think you really have the balls to do it. I think you're misusing the word skittish. I think you're also misunderstanding my motives. It's not worth it to me to do this a few times for a few hundred bucks and compromise my privacy with public ads. I have a friend in Los Angeles who was paid $20,000 for a weekend. He didn't put up any ads, and if he had, he wouldn't have gotten this price. Pros don't generally get this kind of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EXPAT Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I know of a couple of guys who get that kind of money too. They also do not advertise nor do they participate in sites like these either. They are supported by a completely different class of client. If you are able to get that then more power to you. I would only suggest you be careful. Sometimes rates like that demand things you may not be comfortable with. So find out truthfully from your friend exactly what was required for that rate. And it might be just a very wealthy and generous donor too. It's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NCBored Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 But I'm not trying to use the site to find clients, just to get some advice. There's no drama. I don't want to put up ads because I'm concerned about my privacy and also for the reasons I explained above. I'm not a pro, don't want to be a "pro," and I don't believe I can get a good price for going the pro route. I'm not trying to take advantage of anyone, but I've explained the whole process at least twice, so I don't see what the problem is. The world isn't divided between pro escorts with ads on sites and guys who don't escort at all. There's a middle range of non-pro guys who may do this if they like the client/if offer is high enough. I know because I've been offered money before by guys, but didn't go through with it. But what they offered me was above the "market rate." While I don't want to take advantage of anyone, I also don't want to get taken advantage of. I think the kind of situation you're looking for requires having an 'in' to certain social circles. It's not clear to me if you've had experiences with older men, your likely clientele? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest epigonos Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 EXPAT is absolutely correct Parisrio2000 if you are looking for someone to pay you $20,000 for a weekend you are looking in the wrong place here. I for one might consider paying an escort somewhere between $2.000 and $3,000 for a weekend but certainly NOT $20,000. If your friend is telling you the truth and not just blowing smoke ASK HIM FOR ADVISE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zipperzone Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I think the kind of situation you're looking for requires having an 'in' to certain social circles. And you have to look like a fucking GOD too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted October 1, 2013 Members Share Posted October 1, 2013 I have never paid more than $19,000 for a weekend and I can't see that I ever will. I guess I'll miss out on those special guys who get 20,000! wayout 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Oh my Lucky.. You are very generous.. With whom? I have never paid more than $19,000 for a weekend and I can't see that I ever will. I guess I'll miss out on those special guys who get 20,000! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
