Gay Romeo - boysex_2006

[Guest Asmerom]

I've just been messaging "boysex_2006" on Gay Romeo to take advantage of what he seems to be offering and gave my detailed address and email and mobile number and also offered a sum I thought reasoable for such a service. 1000baht. He says he's 18 so I thought I was acting within the law.

 

But after giving this rather detailed personal info. and mentioning a sum of money he suddenly logged off even though he'd agreed to meet.

 

I thought that was rather strange and started worrying if I had committed some offence by mentioning money. Maybe its the police posing as boy offering sex just waiting to catch a naive farang offering to pay for sex. I know in some countries this is illegal. Is it here?

 

Have I got myself into trouble do you think? I can think of no reason why a boy would log off at that point in the conversation.

 

Worried, Asmerom

 

 

 

 

[Guest buaseng]

I've just been messaging "boysex_2006" on Gay Romeo to take advantage of what he seems to be offering and gave my detailed addressand email and mobile number...

 

Have I got myself into trouble do you think?

You may well have fallen for some form of entrapment although it may not necessarily have been initiated by the police. I am assuming from your post that you have never met this boy/man in the flesh to see exactly who you are talking to.

 

I'm afraid that giving out the sort of information highlighted above (especially the address) to a complete stranger is absolute madness in the absence of a face-to-face meeting. At the very least you have left yourself open to all sorts of scams, especially stolen identity scams, blackmail, junk email, unsolicited phone calls, begging letters etc etc. In the worse case you could expect some form of investigation by the police authorities.

 

Talk about naive - you take the biscuit!

[Guest Asmerom]

I'm afraid that giving out the sort of information highlighted above (especially the address) to a complete stranger is absolute madness in the absence of a face-to-face meeting. At the very least you have left yourself open to all sorts of scams, especially stolen identity scams, blackmail, junk email, unsolicited phone calls, begging letters etc etc. In the worse case you could expect some form of investigation by the police authorities.

 

Talk about naive - you take the biscuit!

 

Thanks for that most understanding and helpful commiseration with my little problem but I beg to believe that its way over the top. Just a touch melodramatic maybe? A fevered imagination run riot?. And would you label yourself as a pessimist by nature?

 

So its "absolute madness" to let some Thai boy know your address, your mobile, your email? What possible dangers lurk in giving out such basic info? There's no way anyone could steal my identity with such basic info. As it is, I have great difficulty in accessing most of my accounts due to the wealth of secret passwords, numbers and personal information needed.I'm quite regularly locked out of my own accounts due to getting it wrong so often.I'm quite willing to chance a few phoney phone calls or emails in pursuit of my goal.

 

I thank you heartily for your trouble in replying but I hope you will not be offended if I resist

thinking of myself as naive and hope that everything turns out for the best.

 

I really haven't packed my bags ready for a midnight knock at the door and a sad journey off to the police cells. I think I must have a sunnier view of life than your goodself.

 

But thaks anyway,

Asmerom

[Gaybutton]

Although he came on strong, I agree with Buaseng that it's not a good idea to give out details about yourself in an online chat. Asmeron, if that's what you want to do, go ahead, but I don't recommend it either. If a boy agrees to meet you, I suggest the first meeting take place on neutral territory, where either one of you could decide to forget it if you so desire, without any kind of problem. (That's one of the things that makes the Malaysia Hotel's outdoor restaurant ideal, when in Bangkok).

 

Have a cup of coffee, or something, with him somewhere first. Check his ID card while you're having that coffee and make sure about his age. Don't just take his word for it. You don't have a legal problem if the boy tells you online that he's 18. You only have a problem if you actually hook up with him for sexual purposes and it turns out he is under 18 despite what he told you. Make sure first. If you have any doubts, have your hotel check his ID. And make sure they actually check his ID card. Some hotels simply hold the card until the boy leaves without bothering to even look at it.

 

You do have to be careful about these gay hookup sites. Until you meet with the boy, you have no way of knowing if he's even using a real photo of himself, or if any of the information he tells you or is on his profile is true. You do, however, have a pretty good idea as to what his real intentions are. Some of them may be sincere, but most of them are looking for a farang, any farang, who is going to give him money, or better still, become a sugar-daddy.

 

The plus side of some of these gay hookup sites is that many of the boys are bar boys. There's probably quite a few on these sites lately considering Pattaya's current 'farang shortage.' Using these sites with the proper precautions can save you from going to the bars and going through the usual routine of buying drinks you don't want in the first place, the pushy mama-san, the boy sitting next to you rubbing your leg from crotch to knee, with the "Where you come from? What you name?" questions, etc, not to mention there are no off fees from gay hookup sites.

 

The down side is you really have no idea who these boys are. If any of them are, to put it politely, "bad news," then you have very little you can do about it. At least, with a bar boy, you can go back to the bar if there has been any trouble, because the bar is required to keep copies of each boy's ID card. But if a gay hookup site boy causes you some kind of a problem, steals from you, or whatever, good luck trying to do anything about it.

 

My guess is the boy didn't intentionally cut off the chat. Something else probably happened. Check again in a few hours. Chances are a message from him will be waiting. He didn't log on to Gay Romeo for his health. He's farang fishing. With you, he reeled one in, so he would very unlikely to cut it short without rhyme or reason.

 

It is possible, I suppose, that he's not a bar boy or money boy, and really did get insulted at the mention of money, but I just now went to Gay Romeo and had a look at his profile to see for myself. I could be wrong, of course, but from what I saw, he might as well be wearing a sign that says "Money Boy." Not that being a money boy is a bad thing. If I were in their shoes I'd be doing the same. But what I saw on his profile certainly looks, to me, typical of the "let's soak the farang for as much as we can get" game player.

[Guest buaseng]

So its "absolute madness" to let some Thai boy know your address, your mobile, your email? What possible dangers lurk in giving out such basic info? There's no way anyone could steal my identity with such basic info. As it is, I have great difficulty in accessing most of my accounts due to the wealth of secret passwords, numbers and personal information needed.I'm quite regularly locked out of my own accounts due to getting it wrong so often.I'm quite willing to chance a few phoney phone calls or emails in pursuit of my goal.

It is very easy to clone someone's identity with basic information like a detailed address and telephone numbers. All that is then needed is for supporting documentation i.e. utilities receipt, official correspondence (which could be obtained from the rubbish (trash) you put out) or failing that, the ease of obtaining forged documents etc in Thailand is well known. With all that information they can open up a credit card/store debit account in your name and quickly spend up to the maximum limit before a monthly bill etc ever appears at your address - by that time they are long gone and you are left trying to sort out the mess.

 

They don't need to access your existing accounts or need the associated secret passwords, numbers etc to scam you.

 

If you do not believe that such a situation could arise you are indeed naive but do carry on regardless thinking with your crotch instead of your head .

[firecat69]

I've just been messaging "boysex_2006" on Gay Romeo to take advantage of what he seems to be offering and gave my detailed address and email and mobile number and also offered a sum I thought reasoable for such a service. 1000baht. He says he's 18 so I thought I was acting within the law.

 

But after giving this rather detailed personal info. and mentioning a sum of money he suddenly logged off even though he'd agreed to meet.

 

I thought that was rather strange and started worrying if I had committed some offence by mentioning money. Maybe its the police posing as boy offering sex just waiting to catch a naive farang offering to pay for sex. I know in some countries this is illegal. Is it here?

 

Have I got myself into trouble do you think? I can think of no reason why a boy would log off at that point in the conversation.

 

Worried, Asmerom

Consider yourself lucky. He works at Look Bar and is useless in bed

[Bob]

Consider yourself lucky. He works at Look Bar and is useless in bed

 

 

Lol. My guess is his real name is Chris Hanson.

 

To each his own, but hooking up with sex partners over the internet seems a bit risky to me. I'd just never gamble that a stranger on the internet is telling me the truth (or that I'm the only one in the world he's saying that to).

[Guest Asmerom]

Gaybutton,

 

Sorry to leave it till the morning after but I was too tired to give your response the attention it deserved.Your characteristically committed and cool analysis of the problem accurately predicted the outcome and the boy replied one hour later to allay all my unfounded fears.Though I still don't know why he logged off so suddenly.

 

I have met three charming and delightful boys on this Gay Romeo website without the slightest problem. The deal is clear as daylight. I pay for services rendered without all the hassle which you so clearly explain. I like to be in bed by 10.30pm. Of course they are money boys ; that's exactly what I want though one has unexpectedly turned out to be more than that.

 

I cant help feeling there seems to be a pervasive attitude of suspicion among farangs in Thailand (or is it just this board). Maybe it has its roots in reality but I have seen absolutely nothing to support it in my three months stay in Pattaya. Quite the contrary, in fact.

 

I hired a motorbike last week and was careless enough to let my bag fall off without noticing.It contained nothing of physical value but lots of personal stuff including the keys to my Condo and a notebook with lots of fairly encoded passwords to my various accounts.It also contained the telephone number of my previous landlord which the finder rang and was given my new address. My bag arrived at my Condo by taxi the day after I lost it. Anonymously.What about using that experience as a basis for generalising about Thai attitudes and behaviour? It seems to me far more typical than the possibly unfounded suspicions of board members. I am, however, a complete novice arguing with old, experienced hands. But I prefer my own fresh

impressions and until experience teaches me otherwise I will continue to act as if they were valid. Gay hook up sites included.I recommend discarding all these dark doubts and suspicions and approaching the other guy assuming he's just as honest, genuine and open as you consider yourself to be.

 

I must say that dose of reality from 'firecat 69' was quite refreshing but once again, my own experience may hopefully differ. At least the boy has been clearly identified and not likely to turn up at my door with a warrant.

 

Gaybutton cannot entirely be excused from blame in this affair as it was acting on his advice that I had the internet installed in my room at Condo 5C (there I go again) thus enabling me to get into all sorts of trouble. But maybe that's for another thread.

 

Asmerom

[Guest luvthai]

Wasn't there an incident invloving a couple boys from Look bar that thru Gayromeo hooked up with a farang staying at Yensabi Condo? Wasn't this guy stabbed and robbed?

[Guest fountainhall]

if that's what you want to do, go ahead, but I don't recommend it either

 

Agree totally with GB. Whether or not something happens, you are voluntarily exposing yourself to possible and unnecessary risk.

 

Gayromeo is not supposed to be a site for moneyboys who should really be reported to the webmasters. But this is Thailand . . .!

[payless]

Consider yourself lucky. He works at Look Bar and is useless in bed

 

I can't believe you are correct. He would be too old to work at Look Bar or maybe he is lying about his age.

Just as an aside, it amuses me a little when you see guys over 40 or 50 or whatever age trawling for young Thai guys and writing in their profile 'no money boys'. Are not many older guys here 'cos they can't form a relationship or afford sex in their own country?

[Gaybutton]

Gaybutton cannot entirely be excused from blame in this affair as it was acting on his advice that I had the internet installed in my room at Condo 5C (there I go again) thus enabling me to get into all sorts of trouble. But maybe that's for another thread.

 

Oh well, sorry about that.

 

To respond to what you are saying, you have been lucky. Not everyone experiences the same luck. After living here for a number of years already, I'm seeing things a little differently than many who are in Thailand only for a limited time on a holiday. I have, thank God, the opportunity to meet a great more boys than the average holiday maker. My experience tells me that if you are going to err, then err on the side of caution.

 

I used to say I trust people until they give me a reason not to trust them. After being here this long, at least as it applies to the Thai boys, I now say I trust nobody until I have known them long enough to be absolutely certain they can be trusted. As Asmerom says, I too have never had any kind of a serious problem with any of these boys, but I have experienced boyfriend horror stories and I know too many people and have heard too many reliable stories to feel differently.

 

I believe the vast majority of these boys would never try to steal from you or cause you any other problems, but enough of them do, unfortunately, to cause problems for the rest of the honest boys, similar to the way a very few pedophiles give a negative reputation to the vast majority of farang who want nothing to do with under age boys.

 

All anyone can do on these message boards is to warn about the realities here. Whether you choose to heed those warnings is, as the Thais say, "Up to you." In many cases, once something finally happens, now you start listening.

[Guest Asmerom]

How right you were firecat. I think I now know why this boy ceased the on-line conversation so unexpectedly. He probably fell asleep reading my replies.He does work at the Look bar which might explain his early arrival at 5.30 after we had agreed to meet at 7pm, though I'm not too sure if he was awake.

 

So, Gaybutton, I ,who have been here three months have been "lucky". You ,who have had the oppurtunity to meet a great many more boys over many years, have also been "lucky".You have never had any kind of a serious problem with any of these boys and yet you persist in advising caution and trust nobody until they have proved hemselves trustworthy. you adjust your attitude not according to your own hazard- free experience but according to the experience of others.

Well, if we all did that, would we ever step outside our front doors,hire a motorbike, cross the road,eat a lettuce, or go to a restaurant ; and only God knows what health hazards lurk in fresh tomatoes.And don't you live in a house? Didn't you listen to all those cautionary tales of break-ins and burglaries which are daily reported in the local press and nightly on TV? I marvel at your independence of mind in spurning the obviously safer common sense alternative - a 22nd floor Condo.

 

Why let the tail wag the dog? If 95% of the boys are honest, trustful, decent,healthy,civilised human beings its quite unreasonable to adopt an attitude of mistrust. It sours the proceedings.

The reality is the 95% not the 5%.Its a question of balance-a bit like how much individual freedom do we sacrifice in order to combat the terrorist threat?

 

Apparently there are people who wouldn't be seen dead using Gay Romeo for fear of being found in that state,in bed, the next morning. Well, I think its a wonderful site, offering a happy alternative to the bars. Maybe a touch unsociable and therefore a boon to those unfortunate people who "cannot form relationships" and find comfort in temporary liasons. It's great! It's attractive on screen,comprehensive,very accessible,loads of filters, and gets results.It's also FREE.Who needs 'thailandout' ; at first glance a rather pathetic parody of a dating site.

 

As for reporting a boy because he wants money I cannot conceive of anyone harbouring such a disgusting thought.

 

Choice ; that's the thing. Each to his own. And just approach Gay Romeo with the same caution as you would stepping outside your front door.

 

Asmerom

[Gaybutton]

So, Gaybutton, I ,who have been here three months have been "lucky". You ,who have had the oppurtunity to meet a great many more boys over many years, have also been "lucky".

 

Now, you wouldn't be trying to twist my words around, would you? Ok. Many others have done the same thing. You have been lucky because of just that, sheer luck, without really knowing what to look for. That's good. I hope for your sake it continues and stays that way. I did say I've met them. I didn't say I took them all home with me.

 

I have been lucky because I do know what to look for and I know what to accept and what to avoid. In a few years, so will you. I also speak the language fairly well. Do you?

 

Yes, I do persist in advising caution and trusting nobody until they have proved themselves. That's why I have been lucky. I am happy to know, though, that after three months here you've got all the answers.

 

Now, that wouldn't be me twisting your words around, would it?

[Guest fountainhall]

If 95% of the boys are honest, trustful, decent,healthy,civilised human beings its quite unreasonable to adopt an attitude of mistrust

 

I see the argument but don't accept the conclusion. When you go out of your front door - as with crossing a road, you not unreasonably check for banana skins and the other occasional hazards of life. Giving out some personal details on line is understandable - and I have done it more than a few times, including gayromeo which I find a fun site. But I'd never give out the full details of my address on first chatting. Advising caution with someone you have never met is totally reasonable. I cannot see how it has anything to do with creating an "attitude of mistrust".

[Guest Asmerom]

As I cannot fathom how to fit the quote into a nice blue box I'm replying quoteless but not clueless. This thread is just about worn out ,threadbare, but having started it ,I feel I should wrap it up and put it to bed with some civilised response to those considered replies.

 

Gaybutton has clearly strong opinions on this subject and argues forcefully and consistently that caution is to be the order of the day.The "luck" he's had in never having suffered a bad incident involving these boys is all due to being an experienced hand who fully understands the local scene, speaks the lingo, knows what to avoid, and excercises caution at all times.

 

And everyone agrees with him. How annoying.

 

OK. I conceed. I bow to the overwhelming vote to PROCEED WITH CAUTION and not to try the patience of my luck beyond endurance. I'm not at all sure I'll be able to stick to this resolution though as its against my nature which hasn't yet been taught to be suspicious by suffering abusive slings and arrows, hurled by naughty boys.

 

But I'll try. Ah well, another cherished ideal bites the dust.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Gaybutton]

As I cannot fathom how to fit the quote into a nice blue box

 

If you want to do a quote, the easiest way is to simply hit the reply button and then delete everything except the part you want to quote, as I did above. Make sure the end quote is there. It goes in brackets, but I'll put the example in parentheses: (/quote). That has to be there with the slash, but in brackets [ ], or the quote won't show.

 

Now, all I'm trying to say is to use common sense precautions. After all, you don't know the boy. Sometimes the cutest cherubs can turn into the worst nightmares. Make sure the boy is who he says he is and has an ID card to prove it. Make sure he is at least 18 years old. Make sure, if you are staying in a hotel or condo, that he leaves his ID card with the front desk or security guard and will not get it back until they get an "all clear" from you. Don't have valuables or other temptations sitting out where he can get at them. The boy will expect you to take those sorts of precautions.

 

In other words, Lead him Not into Temptation, especially if you are going to have him sleep over. I've lost count of how many times I've heard stories and read stories in the English language media about farang who had a boy sleep over, and then woke up to find the boy gone, along with money, telephones, cameras, gold, and other valuables gone.

 

That sort of thing can also happen during a "short time" encounter, usually when the farang is in the shower and the boy has a few minutes alone.

 

There have even been stories about farang who had lived with a boyfriend for months or even years, and then came home one day to find his safe or other hiding place had been opened, and hundreds of thousands of baht and valuables lost to a boy who they had come to fully trust. The boy, of course, disappeared off the face of the earth and the farang was left heartbroken and devastated.

 

I am not trying to say this sort of thing is likely to happen to you, but it makes sense to me to do what you can to make damned sure it doesn't happen to you. It does happen often enough that taking simple, common sense precautions is the thing to do if you want the best assurance that problems will not occur. If you are using online hook-up web sites, most of the boys are probably very nice and they're not out to rob you. They're most likely hoping for money and the possibility of a relationship with someone who will "take care" them (a sugar daddy). But if you don't take simple precautions, then sooner or later you're likely to bring a boy back who turns out to be really bad news, and you'll find that out the hard way.

[Guest Asmerom]

Now, all I'm trying to say is to use common sense precautions. After all, you don't know the boy. Sometimes the cutest cherubs can turn into the worst nightmares.

In other words, Lead him Not into Temptation.

 

They're most likely hoping for money and the possibility of a relationship with someone who will "take care" them (a sugar daddy).

Gaybutton,

I have followed your instructions to the last bracket so I hope my attempted (quote) succeeds.

 

I had hoped to relieve you of the chore of any further efforts on your part to clarify this issue but it appears your commitment to this board prompts you to offer a few last concluding thoughts.

Not to be outdone, I beg to be allowed the last word on this subject.

 

Whenever I entertain a freelancer from Gay Romeo I always instinctively take the common sense precaution to conceal cameras, wallets, money etc. I'm not quite so devoid of common sense as my earlier posts may have implied and no doubt this instinct for self-preservation has played a part in preserving my "luck".

 

All things considered,I do in fact welcome this collision with realty as its been portrayed in this thread and I will certainly be far more vigilant in my future liasons.Though I'm not expecting many, as I've already found a happy young man who, although we have only met three times and we are sorely linguistically challenged, misses me dreadfull and loves me to bits. I know this to be true because he texts me every day to tell me so.He's now in Bangkok attending a High School (he missed a couple of years) and because his father has taken a new wife he has to move out and find a room to rent. I just can't imagine who's going to pay for it. His father already pays for the schooling. A room in BKK might call for 5000 baht per month plus a months deposit.How will he possibly find such a sum? A baffling problem.

 

He's bright, beautiful and gay.He's 21. And I can confidently assert that he's honestly, genuinely, decently, legitimately after my money. And I don't mind. Will he run off with my wallet? Will I be struck by lightening? Who knows? Gaybutton, in his infinite wisdom?

 

Oh dear, please lets leave it at that. This thread has run its course, its on its last legs, its heaved its last breath. Let it pass away peacefully, with dignity. And we haven't even mentioned the frightful number of household injuries involving teacosies.

 

Amen

 

Asmerom

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Note from GB: You also need the beginning quote. If you hit the "EDIT" button for this post and look at the top line, you will see what I did to make the quote work.