Max Ryder's Faggot Tirade

[TotallyOz]

Max Ryder posted on his Facebook page about a guy that scammed him. I think the guy had promised to buy Amazon gifts but didn't. Max is pissed. I don't blame him but you must see his rant:

http://maxryder.com/meet-james-vaughan-hes-a-sick-minded-scam-artist/

"He has been contacting other porn-stars so watch out for this faggot!"

Interesting how our discussion on here about the word faggot now comes in and makes me feel uncomfortable when Max uses it.

[Guest hitoallusa]

There are many positive words to describe gays in my opinion so I don't think we have to use a word like, f----.

[Suckrates]

There are many positive words to describe gays in my opinion so I don't think we have to use a word like, f----.

ok FAIRY !

[Lucky]

"Interesting how our discussion on here about the word faggot now comes in and makes me feel uncomfortable when Max uses it."

Yes, it is interesting!

[Theolover]

I really hate that word..

[Guest hitoallusa]

Well I don't like Fairy.. What about fantastic, fabulous or finesse.. I think finesse is a good word for gays.. ..

ex.) "The finessed" are fighting for their right to marry..

ok FAIRY !

[AdamSmith]

Well I don't like Fairy.. What about fantastic, fabulous or finesse.. I think finesse is a good word for gays.. ..

ex.) "The finessed" are fighting for their right to marry..

Not bad!

¹fi·nesse noun \fə-ˈnes\

Definition of FINESSE

1: refinement or delicacy of workmanship, structure, or texture

2: skillful handling of a situation : adroit maneuvering

3: the withholding of one's highest card or trump in the hope that a lower card will take the trick because the only opposing higher card is in the hand of an opponent who has already played

Examples of FINESSE

1. She handled the interview questions with finesse.
2. <maneuvered his opponent into checkmate with his customary finesse>

Origin of FINESSE

Middle English, from Middle French, from fin

First Known Use: 1528

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/finesse

fi·nesse (f-ns)

n.

1. Refinement and delicacy of performance, execution, or artisanship.

2. Skillful, subtle handling of a situation; tactful, diplomatic maneuvering.

3. A method of leading up to a tenace, as in bridge, in order to prevent an opponent from winning the trick with an intermediate card.

4. A stratagem in which one appears to decline an advantage.

v. fi·nessed, fi·ness·ing, fi·ness·es

v.tr.

1. To accomplish by the use of finesse.

2. To handle with a deceptive or evasive strategy.

3. To play (a card) as a finesse.

v.intr.

1. To use finesse.

2. To make a finesse in cards.

[French, fineness, subtlety, from fin, fine; see fine¹.]

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/finesse

1. finesse

To talk someone out of their things

Not stealing

persuading someone out of their belongs, or to do you a favor

"I finessed her out of her panties" that means you talked her into letting you smash

Finesse Gang - A group that finesse folks out of their things

2. Finesse

1. Extreme delicacy or subtlety in action, performance, skill, discrimination, taste, etc.

2. Skill in handling a difficult or highly sensitive situation; adroit and artful management

3. An extreme extremely beautiful young women with an artistic sense and a feisty personality.

She has exceptional diplomatic finesse.

3. Finesse

1. Elegant and classy sense of style, for both men and women.

2. Finesse, when swag isn't enough.

3. A way of life, where a person carries themselves with chivalry and respect.

"Dude, that's swagg!! Nah it's finesse, im at another level."

Ex. of Chivalry, Opening doors for women, treating them with respect.

4. Finesse

Finesse is when you could roll a joint, a phillie, dutch, perfect. when it looks good and pulls slow= finessed.

"I finessed this shit"

"Yo that L is finessed"

"I give you props, its finesse"

5. finesse

The act of acquiring some fine-ass.

person a:"So what were the magic words that you used to get them to come with us?"

person b: "All I said was 'hey ladies, how would you like to go out on my yacht?'"

person a:"Damn, you finessed that shit." "But they know it's really a rowboat, right?"

6. Finesse

Kevin Donovan

Skank Finesse

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=finesse

[Guest hitoallusa]

Oh my my.. I take it back.. I don't want to use finesse.. Hm..

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=finesse

[Lucky]

"Interesting how our discussion on here about the word faggot now comes in and makes me feel uncomfortable when Max uses it."

Yes, it is interesting!

But not that uncomfortable, huh? Since today you are back advocating it and accusing those who differ with you of having a "meltdown." Well, we should be havin meltdowns! I am glad that you felt a little uncomfortable though. Not so uncomfortable as those gay guys are who are getting the shit kicked out of them.

Once again I find myself in the wrong place. I don't choose to associate with people who use the word "fag" and similar slurs in cutesy little ways like Oz does. His lack of sincerity in the above post is very telling. I thought the matter had been settled, but it was only an appeasement.

[TotallyOz]

But not that uncomfortable, huh? Since today you are back advocating it and accusing those who differ with you of having a "meltdown." Well, we should be havin meltdowns! I am glad that you felt a little uncomfortable though. Not so uncomfortable as those gay guys are who are getting the shit kicked out of them.

Once again I find myself in the wrong place. I don't choose to associate with people who use the word "fag" and similar slurs in cutesy little ways like Oz does. His lack of sincerity in the above post is very telling. I thought the matter had been settled, but it was only an appeasement.

Advocating? You are grasping at straws trying to prove a point which is absurd. When the word was used in a "cutesy" way months back, I said that I would not use that word in any other articles for the site. I stand by that and I have not. You don't seem to be happy with that. That is life I guess.

I will state once more that I have never had a problem with another openly gay man using the word among other gays. I have no issue with the word queer or dyke or whore or slut used inside that group either. My friends use all the words and I have no issue with it. The younger generation use it often and I am sure some of that has rubbed off on me. Also, being a New York Queer, oops, sorry, gay man, I have a bit higher tolerance for words. I have been told in the past that I use fuck and shit and bitch way too much in my posts but I try to curb that as well. My own language is not curbed at all. I talk like a New Yorker and have for 30 years. Perhaps that shows I am a bit lower class that you, but I am OK with that as well.

I do have issues with those outside the group using it. I have issues when those words are used in a hateful or harmful way. When the discussion was held months back, and I saw that some, like you, do not differentiate with context the word was used in, I made sure that all future things were more carefully worded. But, get real, you try to use an article written last year to prove a point you with to make today. That is disingenuous at best.

[Guest josephga]

I'm guilty of using it to. like going out with someone a few times then them just vanishing and saying nothing. I've referred to them as sketchy faggots . a friend might say his bf dumbed him i'l say well you know how some fags are. I think being around allot of younger guys it wears off on you.

[TotallyOz]

Joseph,

I think a lot of this is generational. I am mid 40's and was not around when Stonewall was going on or the gay rights movement was one where danger lurked around every corner.

But, I did grow up in the deep south and words like queer, fag, gay, pussy, queen, were used in a way that made me feel terrified. But, they were used by guys I knew to be hateful. When I came out, at 27, I was in NYC and in a different world. I hung out with many younger guys and the words seemed to me to be part of the gay culture. I even remember my first gay pride parade in NYC with the words Queen and Fag used on posters of the marches tell others that were gay. IMHO, that was not used in a bad way.

But, some on this board are much older than I am and I don't have their experiences and thus, I do understand their hatred for the use of the word and thus, why I agreed I would be careful with my use of it on the site or in posts. I have no problem with the word fag. I have no problem with its use from another gay man if used in a loving way or even a funny way. But, I try my best not to offend people and thus I will be careful of its use.

That does not mean I agree with those who feel the word itself should be banned from society. Today, I got a message from a friend in NYC and it said, "Faggot, get your ass back to NYC. Fire Island is a blast and we miss you." The guy is in his early 30's and I was not offended by his remarks at all.

Others have different experiences than I have and I try my best to be cognizant of that.