AdamSmith Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Kevin Slater writing on the other forum made this observation: "One need not ever marry to benefit from today's ruling. By affirming fifth amendment rights of life and liberty upon the LGB community, the court establishes precedent against any manner of law which seeks to discriminate against gays. This case happened to involve marriage, but the protections affirmed therein likely apply just as well to employment discrimination, healthcare policy, criminal and family law, etc. Just as one doesn't need to use contraception to benefit from Griswold v. Connecticut's establishment of the constitutional right to privacy, one needn't walk down the aisle in order to benefit from the underlying rationale and precedent of this case." ihpguy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Changing Perspectives on Gay Marriage Gay-marriage proponents believe that American attitudes towards gays and lesbians are on the cusp of a change. See a breakdown of support for gay marriage among different demographic groups over time.Note: Data for these tables represent averages of multiple Pew Research Center surveys, including seven surveys from 2003-2004, six surveys from 2007-2008, three surveys from 2011-2012 and two surveys from 2013. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323689204578569973776975916.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories#project%3DGAYWED_HIGHER%26articleTabs%3Dinteractive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihpguy Posted June 27, 2013 Members Share Posted June 27, 2013 What Nino wrote was just hateful Retirement cannot come soon enough. Even sadder is that after 20 wasted years, Clarence is still a relative youngster of 65. Sad to think that he might be at SCOTUS into his 80's AdamSmith 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CharliePS Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Ginsberg, Breyer and Kagan apparently bailed on Prop. 8, although I would have expected them to agree with Kennedy's cogent argument for granting standing to the proponents of Prop. 8. Ginsberg's earlier hints that she favored a "political solution" might mean that she would actually have agreed with the argument for Prop. 8 if the court had agreed to hear the case on its merits. That would probably have meant that yet another referendum would have to be held in California, which would probably have gone in favor of gay marriage, if current polls are correct, but it would have prolonged the wait for old folks like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest josephga Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I thought it was cool the cast of days of our lives shot this photo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zipperzone Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 It is a victory - but only a partial victory. When gays can be allowed to marry in ALL states, then and only then can victory be truly declared. I know what I'm about to suggest is (a) impossible, ( unreasonable & © impractical but it does tickle my warped sense of humour. I would love to see all gays in the thirty odd states that do not permit same sex marriage, migrate to one of the thirteen that do allow it. This mass exodus would cause untold difficulties for the conservative populations not to mention the loss of crucial revenue on both municipal and state levels. It is unthinkable to me as a Canadian who for 10 years now has been allowed to marry his male partner, that the USA still allows state residents to vote on whether or not to allow the basic right of equality to everyone. As an out of context remark - - The Mormon Church must be really pissed off that they spent (wasted?) all those millions in an attempt to defeat same sex marriage in California. Looks good on them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 "Chris Christie helpfully reminds us that he's a Republican": http://m.dailykos.com/stories/1219480 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 The ever-dependable Pat Robertson can't help wondering if Justice Kennedy has "some clerks that happen to be gays": http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3511238/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 lookin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Just heard a new wrinkle on NPR that would seem to argue for overturning the still-standing part of DOMA, which allows states that do not recognize same-sex marriage to not give effect to same-sex marriages from other states. The story was of a same-sex couple married in D.C. who now reside in Virginia. Their income status is such that they would benefit from filing federal taxes jointly. However, Virginia (1) requires that they file state taxes individually, because the state does not recognize same-sex marriage, and (2) has a law requiring that state taxes and federal taxes must be filed in the same manner: that is, either individually or jointly. SO the result is that Virginia law effectively prohibits them from filing federal taxes jointly. This looks like excellent grounds for a full-faith-and-credit challenge to strike the rest of DOMA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 TotallyOz, JKane and lookin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Oh my that is so rude to do to someone else's property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamSmith Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 How do you know it isn't their church? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I don't think church goers dress like that to church.. How do you know it isn't their church? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Suckrates Posted June 29, 2013 Members Share Posted June 29, 2013 And NOW, the divorce courts can be full of GAY couples too ! EQUALITY FOR ALL ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 Oh my I hope not.. I hope all the married gay couples live happily ever after... And NOW, the divorce courts can be full of GAY couples too ! EQUALITY FOR ALL ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest EXPAT Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 The California Supreme Court has denied a petition from a county clerk to halt the issuance of marriage licenses to same-sex couples. Two more challenges to the law still await a response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
