When the mighty fall...

[wayout]

I think they caved under the pressure of being called "FRAUDS" and of manipulating Reviews ????

Well that certainly caught my attention. I don't follow the other site that closely any longer so is there something going on over there accusing management of that? Sounds pretty serious. Are there just accusations being made or some specifics to back it up?

[Guest NCBored]

Well that certainly caught my attention. I don't follow the other site that closely any longer so is there something going on over there accusing management of that? Sounds pretty serious. Are there just accusations being made or some specifics to back it up?

I'd suggest you form your own conclusions rather than listening to the speculations of those with axes to grind.

[Suckrates]

I'd suggest you form your own conclusions rather than listening to the speculations of those with axes to grind.

Seeker, I suggest YOU retire that tired line of "axes to grind". One needs just to READ, report the facts and draw from those, which is what I have done. the battle lines over there are clearly drawn. The Ass-kissers remain such, and the realistic, logical ones are calling them out for dishing their bullshit... Based on your comments here, its a fair guess what side of the fence you are on

[Guest rimchair]

Ever since Lucky had one of his posts 'rewritten', you have to know that the ass hats are in charge over there...

[Guest NCBored]

Seeker, I suggest YOU retire that tired line of "axes to grind". One needs just to READ, report the facts and draw from those, which is what I have done. the battle lines over there are clearly drawn. The Ass-kissers remain such, and the realistic, logical ones are calling them out for dishing their bullshit... Based on your comments here, its a fair guess what side of the fence you are on

I just suggest that everyone do their own reading rather than rely on your version of 'the facts'.

And no one is drawing battle lines HERE except you. There IS no 'battle', except in your own mind.

[Guest rimchair]

Glad to see you're still avidly following the proceedings there, but you should be accurate: management there is wary of 'no show' reviews but considers them on case-by-case basis.

Is there another case (other than Baldwin's) of a no-show review being posted??

Methinks Daddy succumbed to pressure from some genuinely pissed-off clients. I am glad he id it.

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

maybe TB stood up Daddy for his "regular freebie"

[Guest NCBored]

Is there another case (other than Baldwin's) of a no-show review being posted??

Methinks Daddy succumbed to pressure from some genuinely pissed-off clients. I am glad he id it.

Not a lot, but some. e.g., http://www.daddysreviews.com/cruise/2013-04-02/jason_stjames_santabarbra & http://www.daddysreviews.com/review/lance_long_Orlando

I have no desire to be the apologist for 'the other' site, but let's be FAIR and not distort the facts.

[Suckrates]

Not a lot, but some. e.g., http://www.daddysreviews.com/cruise/2013-04-02/jason_stjames_santabarbra & http://www.daddysreviews.com/review/lance_long_Orlando

I have no desire to be the apologist for 'the other' site, but let's be FAIR and not distort the facts.

Seeker, its nice to see you have become the spokesman for TB and Daddy on this issue. I guess the old saying about "sleeping with Dogs" applies to you here ? As far as your Desires, lets be REAL here. You continue to be the proponent and defendent of Daddys, and somehow feel the need to bring your feelings here and into this conversation. OK, so you have an opinion, but not sure what purpose your defense of the "other site" serves here ? You actually are NOT letting people make up their own minds. You are basically TELLING them what the deal is, in YOUR opinion, just as i have relayed the facts in mine. Why your story is more credible or accurate than mine eludes me. Or perhaps its because you "dont have that Ax to grind" huh ????

[Guest rimchair]

maybe TB stood up Daddy for his "regular freebie"

Naw, Daddy doesn't take freebies...

[Suckrates]

Naw, Daddy doesn't take freebies...

LMFAO, maybe I need to get me a pair of overalls and a straw hat ? Then I can grab some D-list escorts

[Guest NCBored]

Seeker, its nice to see you have become the spokesman for TB and Daddy on this issue. I guess the old saying about "sleeping with Dogs" applies to you here ? As far as your Desires, lets be REAL here. You continue to be the proponent and defendent of Daddys, and somehow feel the need to bring your feelings here and into this conversation. OK, so you have an opinion, but not sure what purpose your defense of the "other site" serves here ? You actually are NOT letting people make up their own minds. You are basically TELLING them what the deal is, in YOUR opinion, just as i have relayed the facts in mine. Why your story is more credible or accurate than mine eludes me. Or perhaps its because you "dont have that Ax to grind" huh ????

Nope, I'm suggesting they should go and look at the facts and make up their own minds rather than blindly accepting your version.

You start these 'conversations' but then object if anyone disagrees. And you're pretty good at mis-representation too. I haven't defended Tristan - haven't even mentioned him.

'Nuff said.

[wayout]

I'd suggest you form your own conclusions rather than listening to the speculations of those with axes to grind.

Of course, I and hopefully others try to ground our assessments based on as much information as possible. Some of that comes from views/opinions of others, our own or others first hand experiences, verifiable facts, etc. Asking for details or reference to something in this specific case was intended to understand possible new information that has come up (since I don't follow the other site closely at all). The answer, or partial answer, came from Lucky's post about his experience that got him banned. That was an amazing thing to read about. One of course has to weigh the credibility of the poster and in this case I have no doubt in the accuracy of what has been stated.

[Suckrates]

Nope, I'm suggesting they should go and look at the facts and make up their own minds rather than blindly accepting your version.

You start these 'conversations' but then object if anyone disagrees. And you're pretty good at mis-representation too. I haven't defended Tristan - haven't even mentioned him.

'Nuff said.

Semantics sweet cheeks, you dont NEED to mention him. You are discussing a thread about HIM and offering alternative defensives, when the FACTS are clearly given, therefore guilty by association. Its no big secret that if I say black, you will say White. I dealt with you and this over THERE, and now its here.... Lets just say that I am oil, and you are Vinegar, and we will NEVER mix....... Nuff said. (do I hear YOUR ax grinding ?) .

[Guest NCBored]

Semantics sweet cheeks, you dont NEED to mention him. You are discussing a thread about HIM and offering alternative defensives, when the FACTS are clearly given, therefore guilty by association. Its no big secret that if I say black, you will say White. I dealt with you and this over THERE, and now its here.... Lets just say that I am oil, and you are Vinegar, and we will NEVER mix....... Nuff said. (do I hear YOUR ax grinding ?) .

Not semantics - accuracy. I have offered no 'alternative defenses' or said anything about Tristan. I have not disputed anything said about him. In response to posters asking about 'no show' reviews, I pointed out the site's policy statement and that other 'no show' reviews have been posted previously for other escorts.

I think your 'guilty by association' phrase says a lot. .

Glutes has BN, you have Daddy's.

[Suckrates]

Not semantics - accuracy. I have offered no 'alternative defenses' or said anything about Tristan. I have not disputed anything said about him. In response to posters asking about 'no show' reviews, I pointed out the site's policy statement and that other 'no show' reviews have been posted previously for other escorts.

I think your 'guilty by association' phrase says a lot. .

Glutes has BN, you have Daddy's.

Daddy's is YOUR slum baby. You are a perfect Fit, one of the many there that remains "high and mighty" while doing your dirty work. I have always recognized your tarnished "halo" and perhaps that is why we are always butting heads ? I think the fact that YOU choose to do "Double Duty" and bring your "super hero" antics here says alot TOO ! Were YOU their elected mole ?

Seek, you really dont look good in that Cape and tights. Go back to your day job !

[Guest NCBored]

Daddy's is YOUR slum baby. You are a perfect Fit, one of the many there that remains "high and mighty" while doing your dirty work. I have always recognized your tarnished "halo" and perhaps that is why we are always butting heads ? I think the fact that YOU choose to do "Double Duty" and bring your "super hero" antics here says alot TOO ! Were YOU their elected mole ?

Seek, you really dont look good in that Cape and tights. Go back to your day job !

I think you just unmasked yourself.

Instead of refuting anything, you resorted to personal insults.

[Suckrates]

I think you just unmasked yourself.

Instead of refuting anything, you resorted to personal insults.

Theres nothing to refute. I am exactly WHERE I belong, You on the other hand are a messenger from beyond, sent on some

unearthly deed, and really should return from whence you came. I am sure your masters are waiting for deets ? Gotta hand it to the Daddy crew with this one. They sent the most unlikely suspect, the most milquetoast of the bunch. Who would suspect Seeker, one of the nicest, under the radar guys over THERE ???? Pat on MY back, I always had YOUR number... Now, you can make final comments, BUT I am DONE with this, YOU and your denials. BTW - I NEVER wear a mask....I am way Too pretty for that. .

[MsGuy]

BTW - I NEVER wear a mask....I am way Too pretty for that.

Hmmm...

[Guest hitoallusa]

That picture of Snow White's step mom is a bit out

dated..

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJkIYQdZhR0iQA6x2JzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dcharlize%2Btheron%2Bsnow%2Bwhite%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D16&w=500&h=453&imgurl=thecrat.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F07%2Fsnow-white-and-the-huntsman-charlize-theron-universal.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthecrat.com%2Fmovie-reviews%2Fsnow-white-and-the-huntsman-review-by-adam%2Fattachment%2Fsnow-white-and-the-huntsman-charlize-theron-universal%2F&size=54.9KB&name=%3Cb%3Esnow%3C%2Fb%3E-%3Cb%3Ewhite%3C%2Fb%3E-and-the-huntsman-%3Cb%3Echarlize%3C%2Fb%3E-%3Cb%3Etheron%3C%2Fb%3E-universal+-+The+Aristocrat&p=charlize+theron+snow+white&oid=fe1c440252679c28f6d214106defcc6e&fr2=&fr=&tt=%3Cb%3Esnow%3C%2Fb%3E-%3Cb%3Ewhite%3C%2Fb%3E-and-the-huntsman-%3Cb%3Echarlize%3C%2Fb%3E-%3Cb%3Etheron%3C%2Fb%3E-universal+-+The+Aristocrat&b=0∋=40&no=16&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=14d9196c4&sigb=13c74qak7&sigi=130s96vbt&.crumb=VdEMEL7n/dQ&

[Suckrates]

That picture of Snow White's step mom is a bit out

dated..

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view;_ylt=A2KJkIYQdZhR0iQA6x2JzbkF;_ylu=X3oDMTBlMTQ4cGxyBHNlYwNzcgRzbGsDaW1n?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3F_adv_prop%3Dimage%26va%3Dcharlize%2Btheron%2Bsnow%2Bwhite%26tab%3Dorganic%26ri%3D16&w=500&h=453&imgurl=thecrat.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F07%2Fsnow-white-and-the-huntsman-charlize-theron-universal.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fthecrat.com%2Fmovie-reviews%2Fsnow-white-and-the-huntsman-review-by-adam%2Fattachment%2Fsnow-white-and-the-huntsman-charlize-theron-universal%2F&size=54.9KB&name=%3Cb%3Esnow%3C%2Fb%3E-%3Cb%3Ewhite%3C%2Fb%3E-and-the-huntsman-%3Cb%3Echarlize%3C%2Fb%3E-%3Cb%3Etheron%3C%2Fb%3E-universal+-+The+Aristocrat&p=charlize+theron+snow+white&oid=fe1c440252679c28f6d214106defcc6e&fr2=&fr=&tt=%3Cb%3Esnow%3C%2Fb%3E-%3Cb%3Ewhite%3C%2Fb%3E-and-the-huntsman-%3Cb%3Echarlize%3C%2Fb%3E-%3Cb%3Etheron%3C%2Fb%3E-universal+-+The+Aristocrat&b=0∋=40&no=16&ts=&tab=organic&sigr=14d9196c4&sigb=13c74qak7&sigi=130s96vbt&.crumb=VdEMEL7n/dQ&

Hito, that pic of ME was taken just Last week !

[Guest hitoallusa]

Oh my Suckrates you are indeed so pretty then... I liked Charliez better than the Snow White in the movie...

[Suckrates]

Oh my Suckrates you are indeed so pretty then... I liked Charliez better than the Snow White in the movie...

But I never say "Off with Their Heads".... My slogan is "Give Them HEAD"....

[TampaYankee]

My, my.... what a tempest in a tea pot. Been a while since I've seen such energy applied to a thread here.

First, I do not know what happened over at Daddy's. I never visit unless someone points out a compelling reason to do so. That seldom happens as I do not care about their meltdowns which seem to happen with some regularity. I may take a brief gander at this kerfuffle to see what all the hoopla is about if I do not have anything more pressing or interesting at hand.

That being said, I did read the two review links posted above. It seems Daddy may have the same No-Show review policy that we have. I do not post No-Shows... unless money or transportation fare has been fronted. No-shows are impossible to verify and may be intentional or unintentional or the charge an actualization of an agenda. Sometimes appointments are imagined but never finalized through faulty communication. None of that applies if money changes hands. Things become very definite as does the ill intention of the escort.

As for people hurling charges and accusations back and forth, first I urge everyone to read what is posted carefully by others and do not imagine the content base on a few leading words.

Also, what happens over there is not of concern over here. We simply do not care. We evaluate people by their contributions here and only here. If you do not like someone's actions over there then complain about it there and leave it there.

In addition, being banned from Daddy's is not a reason to be banned from here. I've known posters, good and ill, that have been banned over there. That management does not set the standards for this site. Period. If we adopted that standard at the beginning many of the original members of this site, not to mention several newer arrivals, would have been excluded. These members have been excellent contributors to our site. Some members may have been unfairly banned over there. Others may have gotten off on the wrong foot and invited to leave. If they show up here with a changed demeanor seeking a new start then they are welcome as long as they follow our site policies. We believe in redemption and second chances. It has served this site and our members very well.

We do not invite discussion about the other site but we do not ban it either. This site has no interest in the daily travails and periodic convulsions that take place over there, or any of the name-calling or back-biting that may take place. However, we as admins recognize that some people may need to discuss events, express opinions and release steam that may not be permitted over there. We are an open community with free discussion as long as the site policies are observed.

Finally, I urge everyone to treat each other with respect while at Boytoy. If you cannot manage respect then a modicum of courtesy, charm or civility will do. It will be appreciated all around.

[RA1]

A word to the wise who read and heed should be sufficient. One can only hope.

Best regards,

RA1