AdamSmith Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 Towleroad reports... Boy Scouts Send Out Survey to Pack Leaders Asking Questions About Gay Scenarios, Biased Policies: READ IT Towleroad has obtained screenshots from a pack leader of a survey sent out by the Boy Scouts of America asking them to rate the acceptability of various scenarios related to gay scouts and scout leaders, along with some additional questions about its policies. In early February, the BSA announced that it would not vote on lifting the ban then but delay it till May. The questions in the survey seem pointed, to say the least: Bob is 15 years old, and the only openly gay Scout in a Boy Scout troop. Is it acceptable or unacceptable for the troop leader to allow Bob to tent with a heterosexual boy on an overnight camping trip? Tom started in the program as a Tiger Cub, and finished every requirement for the Eagle Scout Award at 16 years of age. At his board of review Tom reveals that he is gay. Is it acceptable or unacceptable for the review board to deny his Eagle Scout award based on that admission?Johnny, a first grade boy, has joined Tiger Cubs with his friends. Johnny's friends and their parents unanimously nominate Johnny's mom, who is known by them to be lesbian, to be the den leader. Johnny's pack is chartered to a church where the doctrine of that faith does not teach that homosexuality is wrong. Is it acceptable or unacceptable for his mother to serve as a den leader for his Cub Scout den?A troop is chartered by an organization that does not believe homosexuality is wrong and allows gays to be ministers. The youth minister traditionally serves as the Scoutmaster for the troop. The congregation hires a youth minister who is gay. Is it acceptable or unacceptable for this youth minister to serve as the Scoutmaster? David, a Boy Scout, believes that homosexuality is wrong. His troop is chartered to a church where the doctrine of that faith also teaches that homosexuality is wrong. Steve, an openly gay youth, applies to be a member in the troop and is denied membership. Is it acceptable or unacceptable for this troop to deny Steve membership in their troop?A gay male troop leader, along with another adult leader, is taking a group of boys on a camping trip following the youth protection guidelines of two-deep leadership. Is it acceptable or unacceptable for the gay adult leader to take adolescent boys on an overnight camping trip? Other questions include this one, which is asked both before and after the questions asked above: The current Boy Scouts of America requirements, stated above, prohibit open homosexuals from being Scouts or adult Scout leaders. To what extent do you support or oppose this requirement? More questions: Different organizations that charter Boy Scout troops have different positions on the morality of homosexuality. Do you support or oppose allowing charter organizations to follow their own beliefs when selecting Boy Scout members and adult leaders, if that means there will be different standards from one organization to the next? What is your greatest concern if the policy remains in place and openly gay youth and adults are prohibited from joining Scouting? What is your greatest concern if the policy is changed to allow charter organizations to make their own decisions to admit openly gay Scouts and leaders? Do you believe the current policy prohibiting open homosexuals from being Scouts or adult Scout leaders is a core value of Scouting found in the Scout Oath and Law? If the Boy Scouts of America makes a decision on this policy that disagrees with your own view, will you continue to participate in the Boy Scouts, or will you leave the organization? How likely is it that you would recommend volunteering in the Scouting program to other friends or acquaintances? Read more: http://www.towleroad.com/2013/03/boy-scouts-send-out-survey-to-pack-leaders-asking-opinion-on-anti-gay-policies-read-it.html#ixzz2NQuja9lb Quote
Guest lurkerspeaks Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 my response would be to take the words "gay man or gay boy" and replace it with "black man or black boy" and see what people say. Quote
Members RA1 Posted March 13, 2013 Members Posted March 13, 2013 They left out a few such as, should the scout master lead the boys in a circle jerk? What is the real role of the scout master and who are the slaves? Basically the whole thing is a version of, have you quit beating your wife, gf, bf or so? Lukerspeaks suggestion would certainly open a few eyes, I am sure. Best regards, RA1 Quote
Guest NCBored Posted March 13, 2013 Posted March 13, 2013 my response would be to take the words "gay man or gay boy" and replace it with "black man or black boy" and see what people say. Sadly, I think many people wouild say that would be irrelevant - in their minds, gays 'choose' to 'sin'. Quote
Members RA1 Posted March 14, 2013 Members Posted March 14, 2013 We all choose to sin but I am sure what you mean is we do not choose to be gay and that some equate the two. Of course, they are mistaken, although I think BO "chose" to be Black. However, that is a different subject. Best regards, RA1 Quote
Guest NCBored Posted March 15, 2013 Posted March 15, 2013 We all choose to sin but I am sure what you mean is we do not choose to be gay and that some equate the two. Of course, they are mistaken, although I think BO "chose" to be Black. However, that is a different subject. Best regards, RA1 I wasn't talking about MY beliefs but pointing out that some people do not share OUR views - they don't believe we are born gay but that our behavior is pure choice. Quote
Members RA1 Posted March 15, 2013 Members Posted March 15, 2013 I thought I understood and agreed with you. Best regards, RA1 Quote
AdamSmith Posted March 15, 2013 Author Posted March 15, 2013 I thought I understood and agreed with you. "We had a man down in my state that did not agree with anybody about anything. He found that cabbage didn't agree with him, and thereafter he wouldn't eat anything but cabbage." -- Sam Ervin (Not about NCBored who is a nice guy, but rather some folk of yore at the Other Place. ) Quote
