Popular Post TotallyOz Posted February 28, 2013 Popular Post Posted February 28, 2013 Day Zero This at times may be long and boring and full of information that others don't need or wish to read. I am trying to detail my experience for the month and will include prices and small details that may bore others. Just an advance warning. It is always very difficult to find a good price on airfare ticket going to Brazil. But this time Delta Airlines had a ticket that was around $2200 with 30,000 miles to upgrade for first class. I jumped at the ticket.Well, I would not say that I necessarily jumped at the ticket. I called Delta Airlines several times in order to find the best price of the ticket. After several calls I got ranges anywhere from over five or $6000 and finally down to the 2200 I felt comfortable with. I tried to leave from Dallas Forth Worth but it was going to cost over 1200 more and I decided the drive to Austin was fine for me. I stayed one night at an airport hotel called Fairfield Suites Hotel. It was around 90USD. It is about 8 miles from airport and as I had to return a rental car, I booked that room.Austin Airport is small. It is not a big place but it is very easy to get from rental cars to the check in. As I had a business class ticket, I am allowed 3 bags. Most people know I like to travel with lots of shit, but on this trip, I got everything into 2 suitcases and 2 carryons. I can't believe it. But, as I'll be taking GOL Airline on at least 4 or 5 other segments during the course of the month, I thought packing light was a good idea. The airplane ride BOEING 767-400 was fine. It was supposed to be the lay flat beds. However these beds are not the same size as the beds that are lay flat seats that go over to Asia. These beds were smaller in width. And your feet had to go in front of above the chair in front of you. It was nowhere for a really big guy to be comfortable. And, if you selected an odd number row by the window, it meant your shoulders were pushed against the plane if you have big shoulders. As soon as I got to hotel, I got on Internet and changed my seat assignment for when I return to USA in a month.I did like the new Tumi bathroom accessory bag that is given to business class passengers. I love Tumi and this was a pleasant surprise. I have about 10 Tumi luggage pieces and love that I will now get some free. The meals on the Delta flight were tasty and the crew was pleasant. However, for the business class section, they took the 2 bathrooms from the front and it left only 2 bathrooms in the rear. In other words, lines the entire time. Not sure why on earth they would configure the new planes like this.I'm not really sure what happened with this German passenger. But after the breakfast meal we were all standing in line to go to the restroom. The pilot of the airplane went to the restroom, came out of the restroom, and relocked the door to the restroom from the outside as well. I thought odd but perhaps he had an accident. After the pilot relocked the door so no one could enter another pilot came down to use the restroom in other word, he was saving the bathroom for the pilots. The German passenger got very irate and started yelling and screaming and calling them every name in the book. It was crazy experience that I didn't think what happened on an airplane and especially in the business class section. The pilot warned him that if he did not call down that he would have to have someone restrain him and have police waiting on him when we got to San Paulo. I tried to intervene the best I could and told the guy keep his mouth shut but he didn't listen to me or anyone else. He was extremely obnoxious, overly rude and very boisterous. I'm surprised they did not put him in restraints on the plane. He felt he was entitled to the restroom as a paying customer before the pilots. He said this to them and told them he would never fly their fucking airline again.When we got off of the airplane in San Paulo Brazil there were policemen waiting outside. I do not know if it were waiting for him or waiting for someone else. I do know that they made a call on the airplane sound system for a passenger with the German name to see the people outside.Typical of Brazil, once we got to the airport the lines to get through immigration took almost 45 minutes. After immigration, I had to pick up my luggage which was all waiting there in a belt that was not moving. The belt was piled high with luggage falling all of the place. For such a world class city, the airport sucks!I decided that I would take the taxi from the airport. The cost from the airport in some Paulo to my hotel was 116 R. I decided that I would get the taxi from the booth at the airport. It is never advisable to just let someone that's telling you that they will your taxi driver without the official medallion.I decided this time I will be a bit more adventurous than I have passed and stay in the hotel I have not stayed in before. I chose to stay at the Holiday Inn express. The Holiday Inn express had a special promotion to where you can stay each night for 5000 points. Being the point guy that I am I realize that 5000 points for one night at the Holiday Inn express versus 40,000 points for one night at the Intercontinental downtown was just too big of a difference to pass out, so I booked The Holiday Inn Express.It took me about 50 minutes to get from the airport to the hotel. I arrived early morning plane was late and it was rush hour. The traffic was horrible to get to the hotel.The Holiday Inn Express is in a very nice-looking neighborhood. I have not had the chance to explore around the area yet. But at least they have a room ready for me when I arrived. Since I am one other priority club members I was able to check in at 9 AM.The room is very basic but clean and livable for a week.My day zero going from Austin Texas to Atlanta airport and then on to San Paulo was a very long day zero. Now, it is time for my Brazil Adventure 2013. eeyore, flipao, ihpguy and 2 others 5 Quote
Guest tomcal Posted February 28, 2013 Posted February 28, 2013 "...After immigration, I had to pick up my luggage which was all waiting there in a belt that was not moving. The belt was piled high with luggage falling all of the place. For such a world class city, the airport sucks!" Oz, if it's any consolation, Sao Paulo's Airport(GRU) makes Rio's(GIG) look luxurious! Both Porto Alegres and Belo Horzonte airports are much nicer then the two main ones above. Actually the two city airports, Santos Dumont in Rio(SDU) and Congonhas in SaoPaulo(CGH) are much better then their international counterparts imho. Hope this is the start of a great trip for you! See you in a couple weeks! Quote
Members flipao Posted February 28, 2013 Members Posted February 28, 2013 thank you for the report! have a lot of fun and take pictures! TotallyOz 1 Quote
Members RA1 Posted February 28, 2013 Members Posted February 28, 2013 Not to worry about too many details, at least as far as I am concerned. I have been east and west a lot but not South America so I would like to learn from others as much as possible. I am hoping the German passenger was drunk or otherwise incapacitated. Why would any thinking person want to inconvenience someone who has the safety of the passengers and aircraft in their hands? Nothing like having one of the pilots hopping on one foot and then the other because they need to piss. OTOH, one would like to think the pax would willingly let a pilot go to the head of the line (no pun intended) so they can immediately return to their duty stations. There should be no need to lock the door to make this happen. Many times I think the world has taken leave of their senses. For instance, why should the TSA bother a pilot other than to verify his credentials aka ID as being real? He or she does not need a weapon to fly the aircraft into the ground. Only the ill will to do so. Have fun and keep the reports coming. Best regards, RA1 flipao 1 Quote
Guest FourAces Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Really? A German being "overly rude and very boisterous." Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 Day OneToday was mostly about getting to know the neighborhood in which my hotel is located. I walked around the area and got familiar with the pharmacy, the restaurants, and the ATM machine.There were ATM machines at the airport this morning, however when I tried my ATM card in them they did not work. It seems to me that many of the machines are for Brazilian cards and don't read the USA style well. So I found the Citibank that was close by the hotel which works fine. The cost for any withdrawal is 12R.I had lunch at a local Brazilian café. They call them juice bars. The juice bars make yummy fresh squeezed orange juice and other juices, and many different kinds of snacks. I'm always able to eat a couple of different things and the juice bar and get a fresh orange juice for less than 10 real. I have attached a photo of my lunch today. Total cost was less than 10R for the OJ and the sandwich.After lunch I walked more around the neighborhood and got familiar with the scene. Late in the afternoon I decided I wanted to be at Fragata Sauna for it to open. The boys usually start coming around 3:30 or 4:00 and customers normally start coming in five. The crowd starts off slow but more and more come as the evening goes on. I like to get there early and have the pick of the boys. Termas Fragata | Rua Francisco Leitão, 71| (11) 3085-7061 | http://www.termasfragata.com.brFragata is in fact a sauna, with all that implies, including private rooms and suites. However, they're particularly proud of their stripper shows and other hosted events, so stick around for the talent! Sunday and Tuesday are the best days in terms of a decent crowd of eligible boy toys as well as local delicacies. But, I have found that any day that you are willing to wait and be patient, Mr. Right Now will walk in the door. Some people go to a sauna, don't see anyone they want to spend time with and they leave. I am the opposite. I get there early, sit and have a drink in a good spot where I can see all the incoming newbies and I wait. I don't mind waiting a few hours and I always get at least 10 guys come over to chat and try to get me to partake in their passions. One guy today showed me his big dick and I don't think I have seen something so gigantic except on a toy store shelf. I was sitting and watching some very beautiful twink guys walk in the sauna. There were at least 5 I wanted to spend time with. One of them in particular caught my eye. I cannot quite place it but I knew that he was just my time. The more I gave him eye contact, the more he wandered away.After about an hour of watching other guys walk in and out and several of them just my type, the one boy that I have been staring at the entire day looked like a light bulb went off and motioned for me to come over and sit down next to him. When I did, he said to me, "Hey Mike how is Thailand."I looked at him and I said what is your name. He said, my name is Christian. All of a sudden the light bulb went off of my mind. Christian was a young man that I met many years ago in San Paulo Brazil. Christian also stayed with me for one week at an extremely night rate as I was in awe of him. The week was one wild roller coaster ride.While I sometimes like getting on a roller coaster ride, the one with Christian was definitely one of the ones that I didn't go back and repeat. Christian was very new to the game, 18 years old, and while great for sex, the lack of English for someone living me in day and night drove me crazy. For the sex it was great and for the companionship, it was great. But, he was high maintenance for someone who was supposed to be entertaining me. It was obvious from his walking around today and not giving others eye contact that he feels he is above the scene. Or, he just doesn't like it. It is more typical for most sauna guys to walk and say hi to everyone and be friendly to everyone. That was not the same for Christian today but at least he finally remembered me when I sat down and started to chat. When he remembered who I was he got extremely affectionate, hugging and kissing and perhaps thinking that he would get another high end assignment.8 years later Christian is a grown man almost 30 years old and has been living in Europe part the past five years. He is also a beautician. He trained in Milan. And he lives in Madrid part of the year.http://www.boytoy.com/forums/index.php?/topic/4502-one-of-my-favorite-male-escorts-in-brazil/?hl=christian#entry22765My time today with Christian today was very enjoyable. He reminded me of so many things that we did in my one week with him (I didn't remember a full week but a long weekend. He said it was a week). And it was great to catch up with an old friend. And, the sex as always was great.This only cost 40R to get in the private rooms cost 25R. And drinks are 6R. Christian asked for 100R and I said OK. He said, "or you can pay me the 1,000 US per day that you did the last time." LOL I could not say no to this guy and there is a sucker born every minute. I was that sucker 8 years ago and this cute little blond twink took me for a ride. I did not want to deal with subways today as I was tired. I got a taxi to the sauna and that cost 18R. The same price on the way back. It is about a 15 minute ride in a taxi.For dinner I walked all around the neighborhood and I really like this area. I feel safe and there were lots of people out running, walking their dogs and drinking in the outdoor cafes.I wanted Italian but I could not find the place the hotel recommended so I had Pizza. It was a yummy pizza with chicken, corn and cheddar cheese. It was really great but it was 50R for the meal and I still have slices for late tonight or early morning.All in all, I had a great day today. I have attached some photos for you of the lunch, the dinner pizza and Christian. Hope you enjoy! docbr, lookin, flipao and 1 other 4 Quote
Members firecat691614502759 Posted March 1, 2013 Members Posted March 1, 2013 Off to your usual slow start I see. LOL Good thing you are using points and miles or you might go broke? $25 for a pizza, $6 to use the ATM machine and $90 for the boy and room. You really will think you are in Hog Heaven when you return to Thailand. I wonder how much worse it will get , the closer they get to the Olympics? flipao 1 Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 Off to your usual slow start I see. LOL Good thing you are using points and miles or you might go broke? $25 for a pizza, $6 to use the ATM machine and $90 for the boy and room. You really will think you are in Hog Heaven when you return to Thailand. I wonder how much worse it will get , the closer they get to the Olympics? LOL Well, the boy today asked for a 100 R. I didn't say I didn't tip him. The Pizza Place was expensive and I knew that going in. I love to get waited on and my server was handsome so it was truly worth it. In Brazil, the cost for most of the saunas is about 40R. That is like a 20USD entrance fee to the Gaiety except here you get many more sights and sounds and touches. So, IMHO, not bad for an afternoon of entertainment. In USA, I was paying 3.00 for ATM. In Vegas, it was 20USD. I do think prices will go up and up in Rio as it gets closer to World Cup and Olympics. But, right now Rio and Sao Paulo are said to be more expensive to live than New York. In fact, on the airplane, I sat and chatted with 2 lesbians that live in Sao Paulo and they had just returned from New York and Los Angeles and said they were there to shop as it was too expensive in Brazil. They also talked about the high cost of Brazil right now and it is hard for most Brazilians to adjust to the new monetary requirements. However, she said if you are willing to make adjustments, it is easy to do. flipao 1 Quote
Members ihpguy Posted March 1, 2013 Members Posted March 1, 2013 It really is easy to do and live economically, if.. and a big if you are willing to make adjustments. Very true! flipao and TotallyOz 2 Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 IHPGuy gave me some good advice today. Thank you sir! I had trouble at the airport with my ATM and they didn't work. He sent me a private message giving me some advice which I needed. One was that I need to check to be sure that the ATM had my logo on it. I had completely forgotten about this from my other trips. I did not look at the airport to see if they had my bank logo on it. I had no trouble with Citybank but I will now other other banks based on that. This is something I remember knowing in the past but as time goes by, I completely forgot. It took IHPGuys, jog of the memory to kick my brain back into gear. flipao 1 Quote
Guest lurkerspeaks Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 you paid $1000 USD for a full day 8 years ago???? OMG.... Last June, I had some great overnights which were in essence 12-16 hours, and I paid around R150. I agree that an 18 yr old Christian was gorgeous and definitely deserving of an extended session based on looks alone, you paid him more for a day than he probably made in a month at the saunas. Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 you paid $1000 USD for a full day 8 years ago???? OMG.... Last June, I had some great overnights which were in essence 12-16 hours, and I paid around R150. I agree that an 18 yr old Christian was gorgeous and definitely deserving of an extended session based on looks alone, you paid him more for a day than he probably made in a month at the saunas. LOL I know. I said I was smitten. Back then he did not work at the saunas. He hated them and refused to even go to one. But, he had an Internet presence and his clients found him that way. Plus, he had one great client who created a site for him called boynextdoor.com which helped him even more. But, he got older and he loves to travel and he needs money and the saunas are where he ended up. Trust me, when I met him in Sao Paulo, he was not in the saunas at that time. I was hitting them daily and I never saw him. If I had, I still would have paid what he wanted. As I said, I was smitten for the week. Then, i went to Rio and he wanted some insane amount and I said no thanks and I met Anderson. I fell in love again fast. LOL It doesn't take me long. Yes, I know 8 years ago I overpaid. I know it was stupid. I know it was insane. I know it was totally worth it. I had a blast. The only thing that pissed me off was paying a high rate and then him asking me for a present every day. LOL flipao and eeyore 2 Quote
Guest lurkerspeaks Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 I wasn't chastising you.. Merely amazed that a man with your "worldly experience" would overpay by that much. But we can all relate to falling in extreme lust and "having to have" the one we want. Even the most traveled man will sometimes think with the wrong head... Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved or all.. or better to have fucked and lost, then never to have fucked at all.. Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 I wasn't chastising you.. Merely amazed that a man with your "worldly experience" would overpay by that much. But we can all relate to falling in extreme lust and "having to have" the one we want. Even the most traveled man will sometimes think with the wrong head... Better to have loved and lost than never to have loved or all.. or better to have fucked and lost, then never to have fucked at all.. I totally agree. Hey, I fuck up a lot. I learn and I try not to repeat things the second time. Years back, I was at Corijuana's in Copa and sitting with some friends when I told them how worldly I was and I was never stupid enough to pick up some guy from the street. They were all telling me how crazy it was to do that. I agreed and said it would never happen in Brazil. About 10 min later, Richard crossed the street and he was adorable. No one knew him and I walked over to him and said hi. He and I chatted for 4 seconds when I said, "hey, do you want to spend the weekend with me?" He said yes. I walked back over to my friends and said, "sorry, but there are always exceptions to every rule." I had a great time with Richard and spend weeks with him. He was great fun and sexy and I took him to Carnival and Scala Gay. He could not have been a better companion. flipao and eeyore 2 Quote
Guest lurkerspeaks Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 There was one boy I saw on my first three visits to Rio. He worked at 117. I was in lust with him as well. I never did hire him. On my third trip there, my travel partner hired him one night and reported back that he was a great programma. I was ready to hire him the next night, but he was no where to be found. On my fourth (most recent) trip to Rio, I was on the lookout for him and he was no longer there. I asked around, but no one seemed to know who I was talking about. So, by hesitating, I missed out.. Moral of the story, while in Brazil, if you see someone you want, go for it today, because tomorrow he may be gone. Quote
Guest lurkerspeaks Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 It took a little searching, but here is a picture of my "one that got away".. Quote
AdamSmith Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Moral of the story, while in Brazil, if you see someone you want, go for it today, because tomorrow he may be gone. Just Brazil? How about "while anywhere on the top side of the ground"? flipao and TotallyOz 2 Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 1, 2013 Author Posted March 1, 2013 It took a little searching, but here is a picture of my "one that got away".. Rio bruto.jpg Been there. Done that. flipao and AdamSmith 2 Quote
Guest lurkerspeaks Posted March 1, 2013 Posted March 1, 2013 Oz, so you had the "pleasure" of being with Peterson? do tell, was he as good as my friend said he was? Quote
Members Gotti Posted March 1, 2013 Members Posted March 1, 2013 I got with Peterson recently (3 months ago) at 117. In early 2012 he was living in SP and doing Lagoa. He is a little built now, still delicious. Still insisting he is top only, no deals. Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 2, 2013 Author Posted March 2, 2013 Thanks to my friend IHPGuy for suggesting I test out the Mercadao Municipal! The Mercadao Municipal is an amazing covered market in the downtown area of Sao Paulo, Brazil. The building is housed inside a gigantic train station looking building. The windows are beautiful stained glass and a series of vast domes. The market specializes in fresh produce and dried goods but for me, it is famous for the sandwiches that Anthony Boudain raved about. He suggested I get the mortadella sandwiches and pasteis, pockets of dough stuffed with meat, cheese or fish and then fried.The Italian mortadela sandwich is the signature item at the Bar do Mané, one of the oldest shops in the market. The sandwich is piled as high as the lines at Disney World. I ordered both today but didn't know how amazingly filling they were and thus, I had to take one home with me for dinner. The cost for each one is about 11R or 6USD.I also fell in love with one cheese place that offered me sample after sample. I tasted each one and then I bought some for sandwiches and crackers later.The place is abuzz with people and everyone ordering food, laughing and having a good time. It was enjoyable and such a great experience. I would highly recommend this to everyone! The Pasteis de Camarao (hot shrimp pastry pockets) were one of the best things I have even bitten! (and that says a lot) I'll be going back to this place on many many days in the future. Thanks ihpguy for this suggestion. It has become a favorite of mine! flipao, docbr, lookin and 1 other 4 Quote
Guest parisrio2000 Posted March 2, 2013 Posted March 2, 2013 Totally Oz, when do you come to Rio? If you want, I have some restaurant recs, depending on what kind of food you like and how much you want to spend. There is some very good food in Rio, and unfortunately a lot of very bad food as well... Quote
Members gap1972 Posted March 2, 2013 Members Posted March 2, 2013 ATM wise, Banco do Brazil is the best. No fee, good ex rate. Was using my ATM card from TD Canada. Worked in every city I visited, Rio, SP, PA, Iguacu ... It's also nice to have a no foreign ex fee credit card when visiting Brazil, save 2.5%. Credit card is accepted almost everywhere in Brazil. In Canada, amazon visa offers that. Nice to hear another visitor saying good words about Fragata, thanks for the photos. I will spend more time there on my next visit. Have a wonderful time and please keep the photos coming! flipao 1 Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 2, 2013 Author Posted March 2, 2013 Oz, so you had the "pleasure" of being with Peterson? do tell, was he as good as my friend said he was? I can't remember him that well. But, then again, I didn't remember the kid that spent a week with me until he mentioned it to me and told me his name. I still don't think I paid him 1k per night but to be honest, that is what he said and his memory is better than mine. I tend to live for the moment and don't remember much after. I do remember Peterson but don't remember going with him so that may tell you that I didn't fall in love with him or the fact that he was a top only made me not go with him. But, my been there done that statement was to your first post of not getting them at that moment. I have learned from this and if I see someone I want, I don't wait. In fact, in Thailand where the boys are on the stage, if I walk in and see my Mr. Right Now, before I even sit, I'll offer my hand to him and take him immediately. I got with Peterson recently (3 months ago) at 117. In early 2012 he was living in SP and doing Lagoa. He is a little built now, still delicious. Still insisting he is top only, no deals. So many insist on this. So many change their minds. Totally Oz, when do you come to Rio? If you want, I have some restaurant recs, depending on what kind of food you like and how much you want to spend. There is some very good food in Rio, and unfortunately a lot of very bad food as well... I would love any recommendations you have. Thank you. I get to Rio at the end of this month. ATM wise, Banco do Brazil is the best. No fee, good ex rate. Was using my ATM card from TD Canada. Worked in every city I visited, Rio, SP, PA, Iguacu ... It's also nice to have a no foreign ex fee credit card when visiting Brazil, save 2.5%. Credit card is accepted almost everywhere in Brazil. In Canada, amazon visa offers that. Nice to hear another visitor saying good words about Fragata, thanks for the photos. I will spend more time there on my next visit. Have a wonderful time and please keep the photos coming! Thank you. I love Fragata. It has always been a place that I can find great guys. The place is not as popular with may as the rooms are not as nice at Lagoa but I still enjoy it. A bed is a bed and while it is nice to be a nicer room, what happens on the bed stays the same. flipao 1 Quote
TotallyOz Posted March 2, 2013 Author Posted March 2, 2013 Day 2Woke up today and had breakfast at my hotel. It is free and it is very basic. They have fresh eggs, bread, meats and cheeses and juices and coffee. It is a typical breakfast with not too many choices but it is fine for free. The hotel I am at is costing me only 5k points per night. I normally book rooms that get me extra points and pay about 10 USD for 1k extra points per booking. So, this hotel basically cost me max of 50 USD. But, I also get regular points for free so the actual cost is from 0-50 depending on how you look at it.I will often do points games that get the extra points. Like last year I did a challenge to stay in 4 different brands of IHC Hotels and I got over 80k points. That would be about 16 nights free here.I had booked the Intercontinental Hotel in Sao Paulo as a backup in case the Holiday Inn Express doesn't work for me but that is 40k points per night. I save over 400,000 points by staying in one hotel verses the other. In other words, that would be 2 free months at this hotel for points and IMHO, this is a good choice. (although I do miss my regular hotel)For lunch I went to the Mercadao Municipal downtown. See the previous post for photos and report.For the afternoon, I went to Thermas Lagoa.Termas LAGOA | Rua Borges Lagoa, 287 | (11) 5573-9689 | http://www.thermaslagoa.com.brSome think it's gone downhill, while for others it's a beloved favorite; but sauna fans could easily spend all day, and most of the night, at LAGOA. In addition to the usual features – Turkish baths, Finnish saunas, heated whirlpool and masseurs – there are TV and video rooms, live shows, and cabins and suites with A/C. You can even get a hair cut, and have a meal at the bar. Admittedly, this is no restaurant but if you are looking for some basic food, this place is great and the boys love for you to get a large plate and share with them.Once you get to Lagoa, you need to know that it has blue doors and they stay locked. You need to buzz your way in. This is true for many saunas in Brazil. They have a buzz system at most of the place and you simply buzz and you will hear a click which means it is OK to enter. You enter and register at the front. Often they will ask for your name. You get a bracelet with your key to the locker and the locker number. You order your drinks, suites, and everything with this number.Upon checkout, always check your bill. This time, as in numerous times in the past, they added something to my bill that I did not order. This happens often at this place if they don't know you. I always wait to get the full receipt and I look over it and I tell them, I did not order this and I just wait. He looked at me for a bit as if waiting for me to pay anyway and I look at him like he is insane. He takes it off the bill and I pay. I would offer this up as coincidence but it has happened to me over 20 times over the years and I think just something they try with new foreign customers. The cost to get in was 50R I think. I can't find my receipt so I'll be sure to get it next time.The reports of it being dead were not what I experienced today. They had an entire slew of boys there. Many were the regular boys I have seen over the years but some very new faces as well. What I did find most interesting is that this is the most gay boys / obvious bottoms I have seen in the place in all my years of visiting. That does not bother me at all as I love a good bottom but many of the Brazilian customers prefer the much more masculine guys.There were several very large muscular bodybuilders in the place. It has at least 10 of these guys that looked like they just stepped off the Steroid train. There was one guy that totally caught my attention. His name was Zach and he was with another customer and when he saw me looking and smiling at him, he came over to say hi to me after his customer had went home. He was simply divine. So, divine in fact, I was planning our wedding and honeymoon. He has a face to die for and a sexy boy. He was tall with brown hair and a sexy smile. He came over and we chatted. He is totally versatile. Without even asking him he said his rate was 300. I asked a friend who was sitting with me the Portuguese number he said to be sure I understood correctly and he said that was what he asked for. I told him no thanks and he left. I was heartbroken. Yes, I know that is only 150 US and most likely a great deal for him but I wasn't willing to pay so much more than a regular Brazilian customer. From the moment he walked away, I regretted it. However, I was not willing to pay that amount for him on that night. I don't know if I'll break down just to find he is as tasty as I think he is, but if he is there next week, I guess we'll find out.I decided I wanted a massage and had the massage guy give me one. I think his rates are 80R but I gave him 100 without discussing fees and he was very happy with it. It was a solid 50 minutes and he was great at the massage. He was strong and worked over every muscle I needed worked on. For dinner, I ate my leftover sandwich from lunch. eeyore and flipao 2 Quote