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Wow, really? Is this unprecedented in living memory?

Maybe they'll get another progressive reformer like John Paul the FIRST and maybe he'll last more than a couple weeks before dying under mysterious circumstances and getting replaced with an arch conservative...

...nah, I'm way too much of an optimist.

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Maybe they'll get another progressive reformer like John Paul the FIRST and maybe he'll last more than a couple weeks before dying under mysterious circumstances and getting replaced with an arch conservative...

And to boot, holding in his dead hands not Thomas a Kempis as reported by the Vatican, but instead Vatican Bank statements. He was not only going to challenge doctrine on abortion, priestly celibacy and so on, but also blow the lid on the church bank dirty business. THAT was the bridge too far.

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According to Absolute Monarchs, A History of Papacy by Julius Norwich.. Reformers had hard time and in one case got assassinated. Not surprisingly some popes were into guys.. I personally believe that it all started by worshipping people.. Thinking what the apostle Paul said is all correct because he is Paul... Likewise thinking what all the apostle Peter said is correct because he repented betraying Jesus and he is Peter... People forget that we all makes mistakes and admitting it isn't an embarrassing thing to do. A religion that started to give an answer to human suffering and pain became something that adds to human burden rather than lifting it.

The fight against heresy was indeed necessary but in that process the Church killed critical thinking and idolized some human beings so a doctrine can be established and protected. That doctrine will be revised and another doctrine will emerge sooner or later. I don't worry about that. But I feel sorry for people who lost critical thinking. I sometimes wonder they are happy... Some are and some aren't. As long as the humanity continue to exist and prosper, a new positive doctrine will gradually emerge and our society will evolve.

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I personally believe that it all started by worshipping people.. Thinking what the apostle Paul said is all correct because he is Paul... Likewise thinking what all the apostle Peter said is correct because he repented betraying Jesus and he is Peter...

But wouldn't that also include the historical Jesus (not the constructed Christ)?

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Has anyone else heard that if the new pope is named Petrus Romanus he will be the last pope and Rome will be destroyed and the apocalypse will begin? This is from a prophecy made long ago.

This is all "public" knowledge so why would a new pope choose that name?

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I think it is interesting that there is a potential for a black Pope this time since they are considering a cardinal from Ghana. Odds makers put him at 9 - 4. Interesting odds if you believe that sort of stuff.

Guest hitoallusa
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Oh my it will be so cool to have a black Pope.. ^_^ It will be a nice change..

I think it is interesting that there is a potential for a black Pope this time since they are considering a cardinal from Ghana. Odds makers put him at 9 - 4. Interesting odds if you believe that sort of stuff.

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One solution to this problem of oral traditions and written records ( I found it realistic that it has happened) is for the Holy Spirit be amongst the believers and guides them. If a spirit guides the soul of believers then many misunderstandings and wrong interpretation of the Bible could be avoided. And with that faith I believe the purest form of Jesus's teaching can be preserved and unaltered.

I believe one's spirit is presented through various acitivies, for example art , writing, discusion, invention, experiment and etc.. Through these creative actives we get close to truth and learn better about ourselves. To me Jesus opened up that possibility to every one and if you believe in him you have power to move mountains. More or less we have achieve that level.

What I'm saying is that religion has important part in our lives and still do whether we like it or not. Because some bigots use religion to discriminate us, we should not reject religion. I believe we all have in us spirit of justice, compassion and Iove as Jesus did. As he strived to wake people up and lead people to a better society, I hope we can start a movement that does the same. Our first step doesn't have to be big... One small thing at a time...

But wouldn't that also include the historical Jesus (not the constructed Christ)?

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I don't think he was ever a popular choice for Pope and I believe a deal was struck to break a deadlock that if elected he would resign after an agreed period of time.

Guest NCBored
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Oh my it will be so cool to have a black Pope.. :smile: It will be a nice change..

I believe I read something that indicated he is not accepting of gays.

Guest hitoallusa
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Then I take back.. I disagree with many teachings of the Catholic Church and it needs to change and it will...

I believe I read something that indicated he is not accepting of gays.

Guest CharliePS
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I believe I read something that indicated he is not accepting of gays.

What a surprise! (Can you name ANY possible candidate for pope who IS accepting of gays?)
Guest rimchair
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"If the Pope can quit (the Catholic Church), why can't you?"

~~ Bill Maher ~~

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The Vatican has scheduled my job interview for Thursday. I told them in my resume that I get down on my knees and worship more often than anyone I know.

You have to apply at the Vatican to be an altar boy? ^_^

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