Berlin- It better be worth it!

[TownsendPLocke]

I will be visiting Berlin for the first time later this year. Combining this with a retun visit to Prague. The logistics are actually proving to be a bit daunting since the Airline I have the most miles in,American's partner Air Berlin does not know which airfield they will be flying into. The newly planned Shoenfeld airport is plagued by delays. Both Air Berlin and Lufthansa have invested heavily in the new airport- which could open in a week or could be delayed for another year.Try running an airline with uncertainties like that!

But I will get there and I hope to find it as interesting and sexy as I have been led to believe.

My return to Prague will be pretty much focussed on Sex with the fellas I saw cruising the streets and bars. I did the sightseeing thing last time. This time I will be more focused.

[firecat691614502759]

Will be interesting to see what you think as there have been reports of Prague recently that have not been good. Boys all on drugs and the Clubs such as Escape becoming rip off joints. That and the prices have gone up so definitely no longer a bargain by some reports.

[mvan1]

The below post is almost correct. Not all the boys are on drugs, as was written. But, many are. My experience was that enough guys were using drugs during my last visits. This is a turn off for me. I do not mean marijuana. I mean heavy duty drugs.

The reports of being ripped off in the bars/clubs is accurate. The nonsense of adding charges to a client's bill for buying a beer for a guy and later finding the bill showing two or three expensive drinks that were not purchased is a common trick done to foreigners in Prague. This can be quite annoying. After a while, the petty behavior together with the drug use diminishes a desire to visit Prague.

Yes, I agree that Prague is no longer the bargain it previously was.

On the other hand, Berlin is a marvelous city with so much to do and see.

Even if the particular airport for a flight is unknown at the present time, Fodors and/or Google will give directions from each airport to a hotel or destination. Having maps and directions from all airports, will make it simple after arrival in Berlin.

Don't expect any rent-boy saunas or the like in Berlin. There are three gay areas in Berlin. Depending on your likes you will chose the area that has a reputation for having what you want to see and do. A gay guide is available in most magazine stands. The guide books tell you what to expect in each of the three areas.

The use of gayromeo.com might be of some benefit. However, be aware that some guys do not post current photos and sometimes they post photos of other people. Then, there are the good guys who are honest and are worth pursuing. It is difficult to tell based on an internet web page.

It is very easy to get around in Berlin. There is the subway (unterbahn) and the street cars (s-bahns). Restaurants are plentiful.

You did not say what you like or expect when you visit Berlin. Therefore, my information is limited.

I travel often to many different cities. Berlin is one of my favorite cities. Prague is my least favorite.

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Will be interesting to see what you think as there have been reports of Prague recently that have not been good. Boys all on drugs and the Clubs such as Escape becoming rip off joints. That and the prices have gone up so definitely no longer a bargain by some reports.

[Guest EXPAT]

I loved Berlin. I was first there before the wall came down and got stuck on the eastern side. . . long story. But I had such a great time every time I went to this great city. I even saw Cher there at the Hilton (quite by accident actually). There are great restaurants, great bars and very interesting people there. You'll love it.

[TownsendPLocke]

If I was being hired to have sex with a fella who looked like me I would want to be high also!

I have been at this game(hiring trade off the street) for a lonnnnng time. I fully expect that the fellas I hire will use at least part of the funds I provide to buy some substance which will blot the memory of what they have just endured from their memory. I do try and assure that the fella I am hiring in this situation will be capable of performing the act I am paying him for before a deal is struck. In other words- Saints need not apply and Sinners are always appriciated.

Of course I do make exceptions to the above rules and hire more mainstream fellas on rare occasions.

I do appriciate your contributions to these forums Mvan1 = Thank you.

Are there any cruising grounds in Berlin where a lonely fella might find some trade for hire?

[mvan1]

Hi Townsend -

Unfortunately, the street trade in Berlin is non existent, to my knowledge. I have visited Berlin many times and I never saw any areas were it was overtly obvious that hustling was in progress. There were signs that hustling could be occurring but nothing outright.

In fact, I am not aware of any hustler bars in Berlin.

The regular gay bar scene can be disappointing because the patrons usually get into a "click" and do not readily talk to other bar patrons. I do not recommend wasting time looking in a gay bar for company, based on what you wrote.

In some parts of Berlin's Tiergarten I have seen guys that appeared to be hustling (standing around looking at passer-bys and saying "hello" in various languages) but they did not look safe. They appeared to be Romanian or Bulgarian based on their accents. I have talked with some of these guys but I always got a sense that they could be trouble, so I never pursued any of them.

My prior caution about using gayromeo.com is valid. However, you might get lucky and meet someone from that site. The problem is what I previously wrote, the photos might not be genuine.

If you could convince an "escort" to meet you in a cafe or coffee shop near your hotel so that you could confirm details without the person first being in your hotel room, you might luck out.

There definitely are some truthful guys on gayromeo.com.

Just, don't forget, guys from certain countries tend to be dishonest and will write an interesting advertisement only as a way to attract an unsuspecting "customer" who ends up being ripped off by the supposed escort.

Unlike many South American countries, where the escorts do not speak much or any English, in Berlin, you will be pleasantly surprised that English is readily understood by many.

I hope this helps.

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Are there any cruising grounds in Berlin where a lonely fella might find some trade for hire?

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[TownsendPLocke]

There are three hustler bars in Berlin listed in the most current guides.Tabasco, Blue Boy and Pinnochio. .... and just like in Prague there is foot traffic on the street between the three. I was hoping for some account of personal experiences.

http://www.patroc.com/berlin/bars.html

[mvan1]

Hi Townsend,

I am not familiar with any of the three bars you mentioned. The last time I was in Berlin (last summer), I did not try to find a hustler bar because I was with family and because I had looked a few years ago and found none.

I just looked up the three bars you mentioned. You know, of course, that reviews from the internet can be accurate or can be inaccurate. Reviews heavily depend on the likes and dislikes of the person writing the review. Some reviewers hate hustler bars and give the place a bad review. Others like hustler bars and give the place a good review. Reviews are merely the experiences and likes of the reviewer.

Even a review of an escort can be misleading. If you do not happen to like the type of escort or are not attracted to the type, you would not find the escort appealing and thus would tend to write a negative review. In other words, not everyone likes or sees things the same way (but you already know that).

Of the three bars you listed, Blue Bar appears to have the most descriptive review. The other two seems hit or miss but those places might be just fine.

The Blueboy Bar had one comment that I wish to expand concerning the nationality of the supposed available hustlers - "Poland, Romania and beyond —" My experience with guys from Romania has not been good. Most of them will tell you anything to get you to agreed to a session with them. After you agree and start, you owe the money but their performance is less than mutually agreed. I have run into Romanians in the sauna in Barcelona, in the sauna in Zurich and in the sauna in Vienna. Each and every time was negative.

I will be returning to Berlin this summer. I will check out the three places you listed. I know this summer will be too late for your upcoming trip but at least I can post something that can be confirmed. Hopefully, you will post your findings as well.

Talking about reviews, if you look at the review for Sauna Thermas in Barcelona - one example is -

http://www.nighttours.com/barcelona/gayguide/thermas.html.

The review is not complimentary of the place. However, I was there only last month and found the place clean, remodeled and pleasant. I met some great sauna guys despite the awful reviews I read before my last visit.

I would like to be more encouraging but I can only report my own experiences.

Have a great trip to Berlin - you will find plenty to keep you entertained even if you do not find any hustlers, but I hope you are successful and find lots of them, all compatible.

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There are three hustler bars in Berlin listed in the most current guides.Tabasco, Blue Boy and Pinnochio. .... and just like in Prague there is foot traffic on the street between the three. I was hoping for some account of personal experiences.
http://www.patroc.com/berlin/bars.html

[Guest]

The newly planned Shoenfeld airport is plagued by delays. Both Air Berlin and Lufthansa have invested heavily in the new airport- which could open in a week or could be delayed for another year.

Schoenefeld airport is the old East Germain airport, not the new one. I've arrived there on every trip to Berlin and it has good connections to the centre by S-Bahn & bus.

Regarding the rent boys in the bars, I've met some charming Polish, German and Romanians. I had a few problems with someone of Arabic origin, but quickly threw him out of my room -they are the ones to avoid. The only problem on the last visit, is none of the Romanians were cute enough & many were just overweight. I had a good chat with one of them and we both had a good laugh after one of the oldest customers in the bar wanted to hire me......

I'm 40 something, reasonably slim but not at all photogenic.

There is some street trade between the bars. Some of the boys seem quite nice, but I get the impression others are banned from entering the bars.

[TownsendPLocke]

Thank you Jaizan for posting your real life experiences-that is what is great about this site.

[pauleiro]

There are boys at the three bars mentionned. In fact it is the same boys who go from one bar to the other. The customers also go from one bar to the other ... Most of the boys are romanians or bulgarians, sometimes rather agressive. I consider that the boys in Prague are much sexier.

There are many hot bars and sex clubs in Berlin (see my previous posts on Lab.oratory for instance).

Enjoy !

[axiom2001]

Damn, Pauleiro, your avatar is "scorching." I hope to take my postponed trip to Berlin, Prague, Budapest, Warsaw and Krakow in May-June, 2013. Hope I find all that I desire in the clubs, at www.gayromeo.com, in the bars, etc... that have been alluded to in all of these posts! Whoa!!!!!

[BiBottomBoy]

For the last two years or so it's felt like all the gay dudes in europe are on cocaine or mdma or both.

It's hard to find one who isn't on drugs.

[AdamSmith]

At least half the ones in big U.S. cities seem to be too.

[BiBottomBoy]

I think it's a price thing. When I moved her 12 years ago a gram of coke was the equivelent of 120 euros. Now it's 40 or 50 euros - and as it's become cheaper more people want to do it.

[pauleiro]

Damn, Pauleiro, your avatar is "scorching." I hope to take my postponed trip to Berlin, Prague, Budapest, Warsaw and Krakow in May-June, 2013. Hope I find all that I desire in the clubs, at www.gayromeo.com, in the bars, etc... that have been alluded to in all of these posts! Whoa!!!!!

My current avatar was a model from William Higgins around 2004 - 2005. His name is "dreamboat". I met him live on a plane from Paris in 2011. I managed to find his contact and had a great session with him in 2011. He was very similar to the picture in my current avatar. How happy I was when I saw him arriving to my place. I had dreamed of him so long !!!

[axiom2001]

Oh, oh no you didn't! Thanks much!

[Theolover]

love the pic from William Higgins..dreamboat sure describes him. William Higgins seems to have some amazing men. My current faves from his site are Rudy Bodlak, Artur Lefak and Milos Zamboo. Pauleiro.. glad to see you got to meet dreamboat ..

[pauleiro]

love the pic from William Higgins..dreamboat sure describes him. William Higgins seems to have some amazing men. My current faves from his site are Rudy Bodlak, Artur Lefak and Milos Zamboo. Pauleiro.. glad to see you got to meet dreamboat ..

Thanks to my frequent travels to Prague and my Prague connections, I met a lot of William Higgins models ...