TotallyOz Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 I met a guy that I like. He has worked in the bars for 3 months. He is not gay. He is very straight acting and Alpha male. He has been off with customers 3 times only. He is sweet and handsome. He does not bottom at all. But, I asked him what it would cost for him to try. He got all flustered and wanted to think about it. He spent time with his friends whom I've met in the bars as well. A discussion ensued about this. The entire group is straight and all have girlfriends. BTW: I do believe his story as a good Farang friend of mine who is in the bar each night confirmed this for me. Now, as to price, he wants to let me know tonight. LOL He needed a night to think about this and last night was Valentines Day and his Girlfriend was there. I was very discreet about asking him this and would not embarrass him in anyway. I just like to know up front what my options are. At first it was only massage and JO. After a week, it is now oral. Now, he wants to give me another rate. What is the cost of a virgin today? I normally do not like Virgins and much prefer those who have been around a bit and more experienced but I do really like this guy. 19 years old, Thai/Burmese/Laos/Chinese/Farang Mix. Straight. Masculine. Cute ass. What is the max you would pay for someone that you really really wanted? Quote
firecat69 Posted February 15, 2008 Posted February 15, 2008 I had to laugh reading this because we both know you'll pay whatever he asks and probably give him a big Tip. Whatever he asks it will be far less then what some boy in the USA would want . Quote
Guest Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 I had to laugh reading this because we both know you'll pay whatever he asks and probably give him a big Tip. Price quoted. Price agreed upon. Tip Given. "Life is here, life is now. Life is soooo short... and sex is just to delicious!" Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 Price quoted. Price agreed upon. Tip Given. Hey, having asked for advice, you can't leave us all hanging in suspense, GayThailand!! Some of us might find themselves in the same 'position' in due course. Do please reveal all. How much did he charge, and was it really worth it? Quote
Guest Posted February 16, 2008 Posted February 16, 2008 Hey, having asked for advice, you can't leave us all hanging in suspense, GayThailand!! Some of us might find themselves in the same 'position' in due course. Do please reveal all. How much did he charge, and was it really worth it? LOL. Sorry, I learned a long time ago not to give prices as I would get crucified on the board because of what I paid. Terms like, "spoiling it for those that live here", "raising simple bar boys expectations", etc. I have hired escorts for many years and I am always upfront with what I will pay and what I want. I have said many times to working boys, give me a rate and I'll tell you yes or no. I have said no on many occasions as it was not something I wanted to pay. Most recently, I went to Brazil and considered taking a guy I had been seeing there with me. I asked his rate, he told me, I said no thanks. He came back with a more reasonable offer and I said it was OK, perhaps next trip. I don't like to haggle over rates. I find that gets some upset and sometimes service is not what it should be. I prefer a much more simple, yes or no. I have said NO both in the past and will again in the future. This time however, it was totally worth me bowing down to his request. It was worth EVERY penny. I will go back for more. I have no issue in paying a high price for a high end experience. That doesn't happen to me too often but when it does, I will willing to fork over the fee. I guess I wanted to know what the max most would pay. I don't think I really have a max. I have a minimum that I pay to all no matter whether in Sunee Plaza, Boyztown or Bangkok. I can't think of one time I have not paid the minimum to all. But, the max is open to discussion depending on the experience. What is the max for others? Do you have a limit for your dream guy? What about that hot famous Thai singer? Would he deserve more since he doesn't need the money? What about an sexy medical student who comes from a wealthy family and has no need for the cash? What about a hot Russian lad on holiday? Or, an American escort on a working vacation? Does that change the max price? No, Wow Pow, it wasn't an Iphone. The boyfriend is working hard on that one. It seems like I hear about it at least once a day. Persistence is the key with me and even though I have spent tons on him shopping and he has a high end phone, he still keeps drumming the IPhone in my ears. I am almost certain it will not work. Especially since he saw what I paid last night, he knows that I am open to the possibility. I really don't mind the price of the IPhone as when I asked in Bangkok at MBK, it was about 25k baht. I just don't think spending that and not being able to use the features is not such a great idea. I am sure the new Nokia would be a better choice. He knows he will get a new phone before this trip ends and I really should just leave it up to him to choose but I think he would get more use of the Nokia than the other phone if the service for the phone is not going to be good. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 What is the max you would pay for someone that you really really wanted? Still not fair! After all, you asked others the question, so we have a right to ask the same of you, no? Quote
Guest Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 Still not fair! After all, you asked others the question, so we have a right to ask the same of you, no? I don't really have a max. It all depends on the guy. I have not been asked for more than I was willing to pay in Thailand ever. Is that a fair answer? I am sure there is a max as I am a bit looney but not stupid. I didn't reach it on this guy. Perhaps horny too much. I think for most experiences for a short time, 2k baht is my regular max and not special special occasion max. This guy was a treat and not just a regular short time. I cannot think of one time I have ever paid less than 1k for a short time and think the general average is 1.5k baht. But, I make up for that with guys I see regularly. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 Thanks - that's a fair response! I'll also 'come clean ' by adding my usual is also 2K if I have had a good time. Never yet found anyone I am desperate to have, but would probably go higher if in the mood. Quote
Guest laurence Posted February 17, 2008 Posted February 17, 2008 There you guys go again, spoiling it for all the regulars by paying too much for a tip. These boys have to be kept in check and not have great expectations. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 spoiling it for all the regulars by paying too much for a tip I do find this constant whining increasingly boring. A tip is a tip is a tip - just that! And the boys I have been with over the years are perfectly aware that some tip higher than others. Plus I do not always tip the same amount. My average tip is less because the service is not always 'memorable'. I should perhaps add that I rarely out a boy from Soi Twilight as their expectations rarely meet mine! Just for the record, I have lived in Thailand many years and believe I count as a regular. And to save you writing again, I'll anticipate your response - "I should know better"! Quote
Guest laurence Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 Come on, I was just trying to fulfill GT's prophecy about being crucified on the board about his tipping. Seriously GT and Fountainhall I truly admire you for your generosity and despise those who try to stiff the boys over a few baht. A tip is a tip and an appreciation for what one receives. Most often my friends are horrified what I may tip for an off or for a little, or a lot , of fun, at a bar however the pleasure is more than worth it. And my response to Fountainhall is that I would like to know you better; seriously. Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted February 18, 2008 Posted February 18, 2008 And my response to Fountainhall is that I would like to know you better; seriously. That's kind. If we have not met already, we will probably meet up at some kind of auction for the services of a gorgeous hunk. Quote
Guest laurence Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 That's kind. If we have not met already, we will probably meet up at some kind of auction for the services of a gorgeous hunk. A gorgeous hunk? You must mean GT! I don't think he fits "like a virgin" category. Quote
Guest Posted February 19, 2008 Posted February 19, 2008 A gorgeous hunk? You must mean GT! I don't think he fits "like a virgin" category. LOL. Unless your idea of hunk is middle aged, beer belly and balding, I don't think hunk is the right word. The boyfriend does call me, "Big Mamma." I hope it is a term of endearment but the Martin Lawrence flicks always jump out in my mind. Virgin? That was gone so long ago, I don't even remember who she/he was. Quote
Guest Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Well, after a few days of looking for the "virgin" on my latest trip to Chiang Mai, I was told by all of his friends he was no where to be seen. Of course they all asked for beers and tried to get me to take them to my hotel. I was really intent on seeing only this guy again as when I met him before I developed a deep crush on him. I knew one boy had been his best friend before and told him I would pay him a handsome reward if he brought the boy to me. He ran out of the bar and off to get him. The bar owner, whom had said he had not seen the boy in months, said "why you not ask me?" I said I did asked him but he said he didn't see him. I guess the reward would have changed his mind and he would not be trying to get me to go with one is his regular boys. Anyway, 30 minutes went by and here the boy came. Big smile on his face. Happy to see me. I, in turn, THRILLED to see him. He has gotten bigger since I last saw him. He added one tattoo. He has a full-time job and doesn't do the bars any longer but was happy to see him again. Still he is a lousy kisser. But, the smile is simply something I would be happy with for ages. He is so fucking adorable and sweet. All the other boys who had been getting drinks from me and trying to seduce me didn't know what to think when he appeared. I guess they realized I was taken by the guy. I was. I still am. Heaven. I'm in Heaven..... And, so the night was wonderful for me. Tomorrow is another day and another date. If I gush anymore tonight, I might explode. Just one of the things that make Thailand so wonderful for me. Not virgins. I hate those. But, the smile from a boy who said he waited for me for months after we met as he lost my number and said he wanted to live with me. I am not sure where it will end as I have plans in a few days, but I will enjoy the time while I can and make sure he is left with enough money to take care of himself for another 8 months. Quote
Guest laurence Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Sure sounds as if GT is making up for having had to layoff his regular crew of bfs. The life of a butterfly can be fun! Quote
Guest MonkeySee Posted December 6, 2008 Posted December 6, 2008 Not virgins. I hate those. I do not believe I have ever had a virgin in Thailand and probably never will. You might have to be a pedo in order to find a virgin in Thailand these days! Quote
Guest Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 I do not believe I have ever had a virgin in Thailand and probably never will. You might have to be a pedo in order to find a virgin in Thailand these days! You must spend most of your time in Pattaya. There is another world out there with real guys once you step outside of sin city. Quote
Guest laurence Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 You must spend most of your time in Pattaya. There is another world out there with real guys once you step outside of sin city. By virgin, I assume one means a Thai with no "experience" with a farang, not no experience with another Thai. As for a true virgin, well you may well be robbing the cradle. Or maybe, no experience with a man, farang or Thai. Quote
Guest Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 By virgin, I assume one means a Thai with no "experience" with a farang, not no experience with another Thai. As for a true virgin, well you may well be robbing the cradle. Or maybe, no experience with a man, farang or Thai. By Virgin, I did mean no anal experience with a man. He had been with other falangs for JO. He had been with women. I don't think a true virgin is robbing the cradle all the time. I think there are tons of them in every country depending on the family upbringing. Quote
Guest Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 Speaking of virgins, I use to be a mamasan in NYC. I had an 18 year old Columbia University student come to me for a job. I asked him what he was able to do with men and he said he didn't know. He was a true virgin and came from a wealthy family but was cut off when he decided to go to NYC instead of his family college. I did not want his first sexual experience to be with me or with a client (even though many would have paid greatly for it). So, I told him to go out to gay bars that week and meet some guys his age and have sex and come back to see me. He did and said he was able to do what ever he needed to make the maximum amount of money. I tested this theory and he was right. I started sending him to clients and he was an instant success. He finished his university with no help from his family. He also spend a semester in Bangkok and stayed with me in Pattaya every weekend and had a great time. He is now living back in NYC with a Thai boyfriend and very happy. He was a true virgin when we met and 18 and no where near cradle robbing age. But, he came from the South and many there are virgins until college. I was (with women at least). Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 By Virgin, I did mean no anal experience with a man I have always prefered someone who knows the ropes, as it were. But some years ago I met a 19 yo student from ABAC on a website. Tall, slim and cute, with excellent English, it was clear he wanted sex with a farang. So we met up. As soon as we got 'down' to it, he made it obvious he wanted to bottom. Never before or after have I had someone who literally lunged on to me with such speed and urgency. It lacked a certan finesse but was hugely exciting. Afterwards I asked him if he was always bottom. "No, that was my first time," he exclaimed. It turned out a friend of his had suggested he might prefer to be passive and he wanted to find out. On future visits, his technique improved considerably (good teacher??), and we remain very good friends. So I am always ready for the exception that proves the rule! Quote
Guest lvdkeyes Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 The first time I heard the song I thought it was "Like a virgin, fucked for the very first time". Quote
Guest laurence Posted December 7, 2008 Posted December 7, 2008 By Virgin, I did mean no anal experience with a man. He had been with other falangs for JO. He had been with women. Oh No! Another Bill Clinton; I never had sex with that woman; she just sucked my cock and that doesn't count. Only a cunt counts. And as with men, only a cock in the ass counts as sex. Not sure that defense will hold up in a Thai Court. Quote