Members JKane Posted October 12, 2012 Members Share Posted October 12, 2012 Though both Biden and the moderator tried their hardest to get actual details out of Ryan they only succeeded a couple times... but at least it's now out there that Romney/Ryan supports making abortion illegal, though yesterday one was saying through the courts and one was saying legislatively... and Ryan had the audacity to continue to promote the idea of privatizing Social Security. I wish Biden had brought up that the Medicare privatization/voucher BS would be yet another big health insurance profit giveaway. But overall I was impressed Biden's performance, though it may've came off better on TV than radio (where I heard it) and may've been a lot easier to follow for people already familiar with the issues versus the undecided/low information voters (fire BAD!) who were the real demographic that needed to be hit... Sadly, Ryan came off fairly well too, especially if you didn't know everything he was saying was evasive bullshit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 The poll says it was a draw... Ryan 48 to Biden 44 and 4 percent lead for Ryan is within the statistical error so the lead is not significant. Although the article below doesn't cite the actual margin of error, I believe that is a fair statement. I'm glad that some reporters can interpret a poll data correctly and didn't say Ryan did better or something along the line. http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/11/politics/vp-debate/index.html?c=intl-homepage-t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EXPAT Posted October 12, 2012 Share Posted October 12, 2012 Although CBS poll put Biden way out in front with undecided voters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted October 13, 2012 Members Share Posted October 13, 2012 Why did Biden have to go so far with his mocking of Ryan? I don't think it helped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JKane Posted October 13, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 13, 2012 Why did Biden have to go so far with his mocking of Ryan? I don't think it helped. Because he was exasperated at all of Ryan's bald-faced lying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FourAces Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 My favorite past was when Biden disclosed that Ryan had sent him two letters requesting stimulus money and how Ryan thought it would help create jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EXPAT Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 CNN was back tracking on their poll all day today. It turns out that they were only able to tap 381 respondents and those were heavily Republican skewed. Only CBS had a sample size that was adequate and they were all of undecided voters. Also Reuters came out with a much broader poll that has Biden winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ihpguy Posted October 13, 2012 Members Share Posted October 13, 2012 I just don't get how any thoughtful person making less than 100K or even 150K can vote for R Money? It is as if no one remembers the "trickle-down' malarkey. Except now, I'll always think of Ryan as shilling for a new strain of drip-down economics with the dripping being a particularly virulent strain of STD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Providing sample size and the margin of error in a report is once again important. Once again the media failed to handle statistics improperly. CNN was back tracking on their poll all day today. It turns out that they were only able to tap 381 respondents and those were heavily Republican skewed. Only CBS had a sample size that was adequate and they were all of undecided voters. Also Reuters came out with a much broader poll that has Biden winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
