What is the best course?

[Guest Geezer]

This evening I had a fine, good looking, eager, willing lad from a bar in the plaza which has been getting good reviews. After several hours of frolicking I found he had scabies. I remunerated the lad handsomely, gave him some Jacutin Gel, and let him go.

 

What should a customer do in this situation?

 

1.The customer should inform the bar owner so that he can suspend the boy, who will then take out a contract on the customer.

 

2. The customer should warn his friends.

 

3. The customer should post the warning on Gay Thailand and be sued for defamation, as well as being the object of a contract.

 

4. The customer should do nothing.

 

5. Something else.

[Bob]

Probably no good answer, Geezer. If you were exceptionally nice, off the kid for three days and watch him take three treatments (and use some balm on the red circle marks where you touched him with the ten-foot pole!).

[Guest wowpow]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scabies

 

"Scabies is transmitted readily, often throughout an entire household, by skin-to-skin contact with an infected person (e.g. bed partners, schoolmates, daycare), and thus is sometimes classed as a sexually transmitted disease. Spread by clothing, bedding, or towels is a less significant risk, though possible."

 

Having scanned this article, I see that it is easily passed between people and the bar owner is in danger of having an infected premises with a lot of infected boys and customers. Bob's suggestion would not stop the spread.

 

The option of doing nothing would seem callous> I have no easy answer but I wonder if Dr. Philippe may have some wise ideas? Is there a public health department at City Hall?

[Guest luvthai]

If the boy is a popular one then I doubt he would lose his job. He may be required to get medical attention tho. I would go in and quietly and nicely speak with the owner and tell him of your concern about the spread of it thru the bar. The last thing the owner wants is a medical problem with the boys.

[Guest stef]

I would agree with Bob here. It is worth to take the boy off few days and make sure he gets the right treatments.

 

Now would I tell everyone about it ? well might be hard to find everyone that has been in contact with the boy as it seems the symptoms only appears weeks after infection, and god know how many guys has been in " Close " contact with the boy. I wouldn't personally contact the owner as this is not a life threatening situation, I would just off the boys till he's better.

If one can't financially off a boy for few days or more, I believe letting the owner know might be a proper choice.

[Guest alaan]

Sorry, but I feel all the answers here are just 'pussyfootin about' with a potential serious problem.

 

For me there is only one course of action..and one easy answer in my opinion, as Luvthai suggested, which is to re-visit the bar as soon as possible, either with the boy on tow [if he is still with you] or off him again at the bar, then ask to see the owner in private and discuss the situation discretely, directly with the owner and the boy.

 

If I was the owner i would definitely want to know.

 

If i was a friend of the boy working there then i would want to know that it was taken care of.

 

if i was a potential customer i would want to know that it is taken care of.

 

No big fuss or big deal with blaming is necessary as it is one of the hazzards of such a trade and I would expect the owner to accept and understand that, and make sure the boy is cured 100%. Eradicating it...is the be-all and end-all as far as i am concerned. If I was the owner i would certainly discretely check all the staff as it can spread so easily... paying out for a few remedies i think would be prefrable to the possible fallout the bar could experience.

 

I am sure that if the boy was treated fairly, [and considering the potential problems for many people in the ripple effect]... i wouldn't think there would be any contact against the person who brought it to the bar owners attention, provided it was handled properly.

 

Geezer did very well to even spot the scabies in the first place. I would certainly want to feel I had done as much as could reasonably be expected of me to help halt the possible spread.

 

As I say, just my opinon.

[Guest stef]

Sorry, but I feel all the answers here are just 'pussyfootin about' with a potential serious problem.

 

For me there is only one course of action..and one easy answer in my opinion, as Luvthai suggested, which is to re-visit the bar as soon as possible, either with the boy on tow [if he is still with you] or off him again at the bar, then ask to see the owner in private and discuss the situation discretely, directly with the owner and the boy.

 

If I was the owner i would definitely want to know.

 

If i was a friend of the boy working there then i would want to know that it was taken care of.

 

if i was a potential customer i would want to know that it is taken care of.

 

No big fuss or big deal with blaming is necessary as it is one of the hazzards of such a trade and I would expect the owner to accept and understand that, and make sure the boy is cured 100%. Eradicating it...is the be-all and end-all as far as i am concerned. If I was the owner i would certainly discretely check all the staff as it can spread so easily... paying out for a few remedies i think would be prefrable to the possible fallout the bar could experience.

 

I am sure that if the boy was treated fairly, [and considering the potential problems for many people in the ripple effect]... i wouldn't think there would be any contact against the person who brought it to the bar owners attention, provided it was handled properly.

 

Geezer did very well to even spot the scabies in the first place. I would certainly want to feel I had done as much as could reasonably be expected of me to help halt the possible spread.

 

As I say, just my opinon.

 

Do you believe the owner of the bar would take the boy to the doctor to get treatment ? I really hope so, but I wonder....

I have seen many time boys being sick with various problems and the only way they were able to get the right treatments were because of a farang that paid for the boys to be treated right away. I wonder how the owner would face this situation here : A skin rash ( or looks like it ) wouldn't look as serious to many people here and they would certainly not even know what it was caused by.

If you tell the owner it is " scabies " , you better make sure you explain them clearly , what it is, and that it can't be fixed with some basic skin lotion you can buy over the counter.

 

Nevertheless, scabies can be transmitted by close contact , not only by sexual encounter

 

 

http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-tre...-topic-overview

 

[Guest YardenUK]

Yeah please don't condemn the guy or create potential problems for him. He may genuinely never have known that the itch/rash he had was something contagious, let alone something caused by a mite. Also, keep in mind the whole cultural "losing face" issue in Thailand.

 

It was weeks for me to get the correct diagnosis and treatment when I caught scabies many many years ago while at university- because frankly I just thought it was an itch and had never ever come into contact with it before. I never once associated an itch and some redness with a thing called scabies mite(which until then I had never even heard of).

 

Also, I do not doubt your ability to diagnose, but are you 100% sure? I ask because writing this i went to read the www.patient.co.uk information on scabies mite and one thing that stood out was the line:

 

" Misdiagnosis is common and other pruritic skin disorders should be considered."

[Guest A Rose By Any Other Name]

Let us also not forget that we have to be concerned with our own personal safety as well. Geezer is absolutely right to worry about the reaction of the Thai boy if he knew that Geezer "turned him in." We all know it is the best course of action for the boy and the bar and the customers in the end. But what about Geezer? Thais can react VERY, VERY violently when they feel they have been attacked or disgraced. Be very careful. Very careful.

 

TR The Rose