What Happened to Baht-Stop?

[Gaybutton]

I just tried to access Baht-Stop. I ended up with the following:

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This Account Has Been Suspended

 

Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.

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Is it just me, or is anyone else getting this?

[Guest]

I just tried to access Baht-Stop. I ended up with the following:

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This Account Has Been Suspended

 

Please contact the billing/support department as soon as possible.

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Is it just me, or is anyone else getting this?

 

Their site is hosted by Invision. It is the same software we use for this site. The message means either they didn't pay for the hosting this month or perhaps they didn't renew their Invision forum subscription. Either way, it is an easy road for them to be back soon and I'm sure they will have it fixed as soon as they realize what is happening.

[Guest Hedda]

I am getting the same message and have sent an email to Bahtstop in the USA to see what's happened. I also suspect some SNAFU in the accounting department.

[Guest ear wig]

I am getting the same message and have sent an email to Bahtstop in the USA to see what's happened. I also suspect some SNAFU in the accounting department.

 

 

Well Well!!!.... What is Hedda going to do if the main man, ( I can tell you Hedda DOES NOT Own BS)who last time I had dealings with him, he was registered in Arizona, when he could not take the heat of his star writer throwing a tantrum, over my truthful rendition of copying other news reports, in his own words, but that is all water under the bridge now.

 

Just think if the bill is not paid and Hedda is thrown out with the bath water. Now Gaybutton has at last, got his act together and is being very nice and reasonable with people, he is going no where as he is now doing a wonderful job here, Im sure.... but may be Gay tingtong may need a white House correspondent, to liven up there pages or bring the intellectual audience over there, I know Hedda is not welcome at Sawatdee, after being ceremoniously banned, so what do you think she should do, not try to get by with her blog again…after this wide exposure... just think, some times as many at 90 people read his BS? page, in a month, so now its all up in the air .

 

I love it when Hedda writes from the cuff, he has a good way with words and I must admit I’m a fan, but all that pompous, pontificated, autocratic, dominance, calm that down and you may have a hit on your hand old girl. as GB has here now.

[Gaybutton]

Now Gaybutton has at last, got his act together and is being very nice and reasonable with people

 

I hate to break the bad news, but I haven't changed at all. I'm just tired of dealing with other people's disputes. As long as posts don't violate the rules, as far as I'm concerned people can post what they want.

[Guest ear wig]

Collateral damage of having to not be so demanding of your readers and poster, by the looks of it GB

 

 

As seen on http://www.sawatdee-gay-thailand.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=9

[email=Re: the end of hedda.. from the only guy Bared on here.... Who is one of the most nasty people alive, unless your so desperate and boring you have to buy your friends of course?

 

Catawampuscat Quote:

"I lost all respect for Gaybutton

 

GB protests loudly that he is not in charge of his forum and he has no control over the madness that rules there.

I am sure it is a ploy to let the insane run free in order to "spike" up some interest in a moribund website,

which serves only as the most boring blog in the gayuniverse and lets the troll master try to keep himself talked

about on the beaches of Pattaya but he is just scorned as an abject fool by those with the misfortune to know him. "

 

GB serves the "pied piper of Sunee" (imagine one bearded pansy size xxxxxL leading a parade of xxxx youthful paid admirers) and his pet troll.

I have also lost all respect for GB, who clinges to his

powerless moderator position despite what goes on, with the very lame excuse that he is not the owner..

 

I would not serve a twisted damaged man and anyone that does gets no respect, not even from the lady-boys.

 

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It makes you laugh Catawampuscat “ Pattayas genuine “Village Idiot” who everyone despises, this ex-shoe salesman… only one poor demented sole, who is paying for his party life, at the Corner Bar and the odd cheap Indian Restaurant, wants to talk to him… but he use to use Bart-stop for his sanctuary. When he insulted or told lies about any one. Now he is running them down. When they found out how despicable he is. so he fled from BS....to Sawatdee who are far more lenient with who they take in.

It would seem another friendship has gone on the rocks, the previous love for Gaybuttons one fan, seems to have hit a very rough stage in your relationship, does that mean we will not see you chumming up to your Buddy ( __0__) again in the corner of Sunee Plaza VIP Corner Bar and Clubbing Restaurant. GB

[Guest]

Thanks for the laugh EarWig. It was much needed today. NYC is so cold and windy of late. When I woke up to find this post, I had to laugh a bit.

 

What any idiot or sociopath or trouble maker or evil doer does on other forums is not of importance to us. The moderators of those forums can deal with posts as they see fit. Every forum has its own personality and I think that is helpful to all. There is a place for Hedda and GayButton and Catawampus and Smiles and BadBoyBilly and EarWig and WowPow and all the other colorful characters on the boards. I think it is this collage that makes the boards so interesting. I don’t think Baht-Stop will be down long but that is just my assumption. Personally, I have always loved Hedda's take on life and politics and enjoyed her blog. I am sure that the owners of that site will have her back online soon.

 

This post has left the topic at hand and will be closed if it goes off again.

[Guest]

PS. As I posted this, the site came back online. Welcome back Baht-Stop!

 

Mod1 posted on BathStop:

It seems that the accounting department at our server lost track of the website's annual subscription payment last month and pulled the plug on the site sometime overnight. Well, we're happy to say that it's all been cleared with the opening of their NY office and we're plugged back in now, hopefully for another 12 months or more without interruptions.

 

We apologize for any inconvenience.

 

[Guest wowpow]

It does seem a tiny bit odd that both Sawatdee and now Baht Stop get themselves cut off. Surely the places that host these boards give several warnings before cutting off a clients service? If not why not?

 

I also wonder why the moderators don't post a message on other boards saying there has been a snafu and that they are busy trying to sort it out rather than leaving their members uninformed.

[Gaybutton]

Collateral damage of having to not be so demanding of your readers and poster, by the looks of it GB

 

First, I have already asked you to stop posting about personal disputes and using things like (__o__). I'll be a lot happier if you comply. I may be being much more lenient these days, but that doesn't mean you suddenly have carte blanche to post anything you want about other people. I have asked that personal disputes be handled by PM. If my requests are going to be ignored, then expect any further such messages to end up invisible and that's exactly what I'll do and will continue to do as long as GayThailand wants me as a moderator here. I think everybody has figured out that you despise these people. Enough of it.

 

As for who my friends are, that is nobody's business other than my own. If you posted in hopes of causing a rift between me and my friends, it's not going to work. The people to whom you refer are my friends and they remain my friends. They are intelligent enough to make the distiction between my Gaybutton message board personality and me as a person. They also know that I couldn't care less about negative posts people make about me, even if they are the ones writing those posts.

 

I also make the distinction between their own board personalities and themselves as people. If I was the type to get all upset when people write negative posts about me, then I would have been gone from the boards years ago. They do not have to agree with anything I do on the boards or anything I write in order to remain friends. No matter what I do, there are always people who don't like what I do and completely disagree with me. That includes my friends. There are never hard feelings or grudges between us. I've even had some of my closest friends tell me off, sometimes quite harshly, right to my face. Our friendships are still just as close as ever.

 

Even GayThailand and I have had major disputes and arguments, including how best to handle you and your posts. To this very day we still don't agree. Meanwhile, I would bend over backwards to do anything in the world for him and I believe he would do the same for me.

 

I have never met anyone who agrees with or supports everything their friends do or say unless they are ass kissers. I don't kiss anyone's ass and I don't expect anyone, including my friends, to kiss mine. Sometimes, although it's rare, I post negative comments about others too. I have yet to lose any friends over it. These same people to whom you refer and I have had disagreements before and probably will again. We are not bothered by that at all.

 

To answer your question, "does that mean we will not see you chumming up to your Buddy again in the corner of Sunee Plaza VIP Corner Bar and Clubbing Restaurant. GB" no, that's not what it means. You can fully expect to see me "chumming up" as always.

 

Now, to address Wowpow's post, it's not so odd that these boards end up cut off. I had the same problem several times when I had my own web site. All of a sudden it would be gone. I would call the provider and, on the rare occasions when I could actually get through to a human, I would be told they cut it because I hadn't paid. I had not received a bill or advance notice. They said it was my responsibility to remember when payment was due. Well, I didn't remember.

[PattayaMale]

It is great that Baht-Stop is up and running BUT even better is that Gaybutton has made it clear that he again asks for personal feuding to stop. I hope he turns that into rapid action and that GayThailand will help him.

 

Many interesting things about Gay Thailand going on. We don't need the feuds.

[Guest Hedda]

Just think if the bill is not paid and Hedda is thrown out with the bath water.

Don't worry, dear, no one is throwing the bassinet or me out just yet.

 

In response to Wowpow's comments, Bahtstop advises that it was all an unfortunate lack of communication between the host's billing office in the USA and the technical folks who control the internet switches in the UK.

 

When the annual subscription was invoiced and paid in November with a credit card not used in the original application, the US billing department asked for some ID as part of their anti-fraud SOP, which Bathstop provided. But the bill inexplicably continued to be processed and carried as unpaid, causing the technical people in the UK to throw the switch after 30 days.

 

We might have presumed on this board by posting a courtesy annoucement of the problem, but cub reporter that he is, Gaybutton beat us to the punch. EarWig, of course, fresh from a douche and dinner at the MacBeths, couldn't resist the chance to throw a few punches of his own.

[Gaybutton]

Many interesting things about Gay Thailand going on. We don't need the feuds.

 

Amen!

[Guest buaseng]

Amen!

Ditto! But have GT and the Mods stopped once to consider who is at the centre of all these feuds - none other than our infamous insect !

Perhaps the feuds would stop (or not start in the first place) if the administrators were to stamp on him occasionally!

[Guest]

Ditto! But have GT and the Mods stopped once to consider who is at the centre of all these feuds - none other than our infamous insect !

Perhaps the feuds would stop (or not start in the first place) if the administrators were to stamp on him occasionally!

 

Of course we have stopped to consider who is at the center of the feuds. That person does not post here.

 

As for Baht-Stop, I agree that if issues occur that other sites should post on all the sites the issue they are having. Elephant Spike does try to do that and in the past he has communicated issues to me and I posted for him as he was having trouble getting access to the forums. If this site had issues I would post on his site and Bath-Stop and Ting Tong.

 

Accounting issues are always a pain in the ass. I have an accountant that takes care of my bills so I don't know what I would do if the site went down for nonpayment other than fire the accountant. But, no one who runs a board can expect to be totally on top of things. Most internet sites are run via e-mail and if your notice goes to your spam folder, you are shit out of luck. That is how many domain names are lost because they forget to pay or they don't get the e-mail.

[Guest jomtien]

Of course we have stopped to consider who is at the center of the feuds. That person does not post here.

 

 

May I humbly suggest you reconsider?

[Guest]

May I humbly suggest you reconsider?

 

Anytime someone so humbly suggests anything, I listen.

 

[Gaybutton]

Of course we have stopped to consider who is at the center of the feuds. That person does not post here.

 

I disagree. That person does indeed post here, in my opinion, but he is certainly not the only one. No matter how you slice it, there are just too many people on the various boards who insist on carrying on with this nonsense and just run it into the ground. For what? Pissing and insult contests.

 

As I said, no matter what I do as a moderator somebody is going to be right there to criticize it. I got heavily criticized because I had Hedda set up his own forum on my former message board. I happen to like Hedda. Isn't that terrible? Hedda has never had any qualms about criticizing me when he felt it was called for, but his criticism has always been just that . . . criticism. He never resorted to calling me names, getting personal, or publicly trying to embarrass me. But the people who hate Hedda still jump down my throat for it to this very day. As many recall, one person actually tried to blackmail me into removing Hedda's forum. I didn't know I had to clear it with others before deciding who I like or who can create a forum on a message board that was free for anyone who wanted to use it, with no paid advertising, and with the all the fees for it coming out of my own pocket.

 

The same goes for EarWig. I do like very much when he posts useful venue information and he often does have good information nobody else has. I intensely dislike it when he posts about the people with whom he feuds.

 

I intend to moderate as I see fit, not how somebody else sees fit. Nobody is forcing those who dislike the way I do it to read or participate on this message board.

 

This evening a close friend made what I considered to be an excellent point. Many people who have never been to Thailand get their information from reading these boards. Half of what they see are these constant barbs and insults. I wouldn't be at all surprised if many people decided not to come to Thailand, or at least to Pattaya, for fear of ending up unwillingly involved in these disputes or forced to take sides.

 

To my mind, not one of these insult and wisecrack posts have ever been necessary or of any value whatsoever, and that includes the ones I've been responsible for posting. I don't think that's what these boards should be all about, but they either are already that way or are quickly becoming that way. If I had my way, every one of those types of posters would not be allowed to post at all. But I don't have my way, whether that's a "lame excuse" or not. That's simply the way it is.

 

[Guest]

I disagree. That person does indeed post here, in my opinion, but he is certainly not the only one. No matter how you slice it, there are just too many people on the various boards who insist on carrying on with this nonsense and just run it into the ground. For what? Pissing and insult contests.

 

We agree to disagree. I guess it is all a matter of perspective as to who is the central figure in the pissing contests. You are I may disagree on who that person is but we agree that there are too many on all the boards who insist on carrying it on. I honestly believe that if one group got over their obsession with one poster that the whole thing would die down. But, that is not going to happen. I think both parties enjoy stirring up shit and causing turmoil. I would love to see it end as much as you would. How this will happen is a mystery as no one seems to want to budge at all.

[Gaybutton]

How this will happen is a mystery as no one seems to want to budge at all.

 

It's no mystery to me. I know how to end it instantly, at least on this board. The trouble is, that's a big part of where we agree to disagree.

 

If I had my way anyone, no matter who, would be warned once. If they refuse to comply and do the same kind of thing a second time, out they go. I get called a control freak for wanting to do things that way, but usually the ones who call me a control freak are the very same freaks that need controlling.

 

It's your board, GT. You have to run it as you see fit, but it ought to be obvious to you by now that the people who do this are not going to stop simply because you ask them to stop. Everybody who writes these kinds of posts thinks they are the exception and everybody has to comply with the rules and our wishes except them. They post these things and the only consequence they ever face, if any at all, is having posts rendered invisible or ending up on moderated mode, usually only temporarily.

 

Until you are ready to do more, or allow me to do more, it's going to continue. That's sad, but all my years of running message boards taught me that, if nothing else.

[Guest wowpow]

The answer to the problem is very clear. Formulate the rules and apply them quickly and fairly. Moderators should agree their course of action and stick to it and stop discussing what's best to do in public. Never respond to personal comments and taunts.

 

This trail must have someone laughing his head off.

[Gaybutton]

Moderators should agree their course of action and stick to it and stop discussing what's best to do in public.

 

You've made my point for me. No matter what we do or how we do it, somebody doesn't like what we do or how we do it.

 

I also think moderators should discuss what's best to do in public. It clarifies to people just how we think. But even more important, as far as I'm concerned, is it shows that while GayThailand and I vehemently disagree on certain issues, we still are able to discuss our disagreements without anger or degeneration into getting personal, pissing contests, insults, snide remarks, and all the other things that are so unnecessary. If we can disagree that way, then I'll be damned if I can understand why so many others can't.