Members TampaYankee Posted February 25, 2012 Members Share Posted February 25, 2012 Sometimes liberals go too far. Some are even wackos when you explore their limits. But all in all I more comfortable with that community than with the alternative. Lawrence O'Donnel explains succinctly why he is proud to be a liberal. I think he has some good reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TampaYankee Posted February 25, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 25, 2012 I started this thread not to congratulate Lawrence about being a Proud Liberal or about how wonderful Liberals are. I posted this thread to point to the shame of Conservatives. I can understand that everyone may not agree on ALL of those issues that Lawrence points out. Maybe everyone doesn't want clean air and water or doesn't think it worth the cost. Maybe not everyone thinks we need safety oversight in industry, especially coal mines. But who is against every one of those issues or even a majority? Sure, not every conservative is a biggot or wants to keep women suppressed or old people in the street or in county homes and blacks marginalized with no vote or much of an education, or queers out of the military. There are some enlightened 'progressive' members of the conservative community. The problem is that one is known by his friends -- the company he keeps, by the factions he strengthens through the support of them in office thus supporting the furthering of their views. Whether one is an enlightened conservative or a mainstream conservative the shame is theirs just the same. Truly they are known by the company they keep and the 'morality' of their views regarding human rights and compassion and material desires. Just one opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TampaYankee Posted February 25, 2012 Author Members Share Posted February 25, 2012 Not that Conservatives were always against enlightened ideas. Here's one example who rose to lead the party and the country. He was the first to take active action for clean air, water and land by creating the National Park System. Will we ever see the return of enlightenment to the GOP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JKane Posted February 25, 2012 Members Share Posted February 25, 2012 Jon Stewart had a great segment on the conservatives fucking apocalyptic predictions for re-election of that muslim communist fascist socialist... http://entertainment.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/23/10485797-jon-stewart-republican-predictions-over-obama-re-election-are-nonsense It's so fucking sad he's the closest thing to mainstream media we have who remembers stuff said and calls politicians (or corporations) on it! Fox will let people skate that say explicitly opposite things in the same fucking interview... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EXPAT Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 TY I agree with your sentiment. The problem is the fact that we only hear about the far right during the campaign because it appears they are the most impassioned voters in the Republican primary. How can a moderate Republican get the nomination? I don't think it is possible anymore unless he/she espouses the most vile stuff to get the nomination and then backs off from it for the general election. But who would ever or should ever vote for someone like that? I just hope that the Democrats and the independents actually come out and vote this year. It will be needed because I guarantee all of the wackado right wingers will be out in force. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted February 26, 2012 Members Share Posted February 26, 2012 I think moderate Republicans have become a rare breed. They are ashamed to be considered part of the far right which has taken over their party, so they call themselves independents. I voted twice for Richard Lugar, and I cannot think of any other Republican worth my vote. maybe Sheriff Booboo in Arizona, but I have yet to see his weapon. Oh, wait. Who is that cute guy from Illinois? But damn, he has some awful views. At 30, he is still unmarried, so the scandal is only a matter of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
