Gaybutton Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Apparently bars are being held responsible for the behavior of their employees even when they aren't there. As a result of a raid a few weeks ago several boys from various bars tested positive for the presence of drugs. Now, because of it, some bars are being forcibly closed for as long as three months, according to what I have been told. Kaos has closed as a result. I understand that a few other bars are set to be closed as well, although I also understand that they have not yet closed because they are trying to fight it. I don't blame them. This is yet another one I'm adding to my "I don't get it" list. These boys aren't doing drugs in the bars. They're doing drugs elsewhere, probably their own rooms wherever those might be. Would someone explain to me how that becomes the responsibility of the bars? Are they supposed to drug test their entire staff, at about 200 baht per test per person, every night? If they have to do that, then you better expect drink and "off" prices to dramatically rise. By that logic, then anyone working anywhere would force the management to close if they are caught testing positive for drugs. Can you imagine the police raiding somewhere such as Big-C, testing all the employees, and then forcibly closing Big-C if any of the employees are on drugs? I fail to see how it makes any more sense to close a bar because some of the employees are on drugs. Nevertheless, that's what's being done. Quote
Guest Geezer Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 The police are frequently found to have taken drugs. Perhaps in the future when this happens we can expect the police departments to be closed for three months. Quote
Gaybutton Posted September 24, 2007 Author Posted September 24, 2007 The police are frequently found to have taken drugs. Perhaps in the future when this happens we can expect the police departments to be closed for three months. Aside from the helmetless motorcyclists, who would even notice? Quote
Guest Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 I hate drugs and have lost many a boyfriend because they chose to take them. However, that was their choice and what they do with their own body is their decision. I know when I worked in a law firm in NYC that many of the lawyers were doing cocain. Should the entire firm be cut from practicing law? If one person signs a waiver to work in a place that is drug free, that person should have to suffer the penalty not the entire place. I think closing a bar because some tested positive for drugs is crazy. At the same time, why is this just for gogo bars? Perhaps that is where the majority of money flows? Why not test those at 7-11? Quote
Up2u Posted September 24, 2007 Posted September 24, 2007 Kaos closed and has re-opened under a new name after remodeling. Same format, same shows, same staff. Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Kaos closed and has re-opened under a new name after remodeling. Same format, same shows, same staff. Wow. That was fast. I wonder how that happened? Quote
PattayaMale Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Wow. That was fast. I wonder how that happened? $$ Quote
Guest Steve1903 Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 So whats the new name for Kaos? If the bars are going to be closed anytime a boy is found to have taken drugs why dont the bars tell the boys that if they are caught having taken drugs then they will not get to work at any bar? Quote
Gaybutton Posted September 25, 2007 Author Posted September 25, 2007 If the bars are going to be closed anytime a boy is found to have taken drugs why dont the bars tell the boys that if they are caught having taken drugs then they will not get to work at any bar? Perhaps now they do just that. As far as I know, this is the first time bars have been closed or otherwise penalized on the basis of the off-duty behavior of their employees, so there was no precedent. Quite frankly, I doubt that prior to this incident any of the bars really gave a damn about whether the boys were druggies or not, as long as they behaved themselves during working hours. I don't know which boys from which bars were caught. Maybe those boys really were fired as a result. As far as whether bars are going to be routinely closed whenever their employees are found to be on drugs, that remains to be seen. There have been no raids since this incident. We'll have to wait and see what happens next time there is one. What really amazes me is the fact that it was well known that the police often do perform drug tests during raids and arrest anyone found to be on drugs. While no bars were ever closed before as a result, everyone in Sunee Plaza knew this raid was coming at least a full hour ahead of time. The under-age boys got out long before the police showed up. Your guess is as good as mine as to why some of the boys on drugs didn't also disappear. Quote
Guest Alan Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Gaybutton, I totally agree with you re. the illogic and unfairness of closing a bar because of staff's off premises behavior. However, what if the management is aware that something is amiss because of the person's behavior. Should they send them home? The real infraction isn't that they took yah bah before work. It's that they showed up for work, high. Let's face it. Some of the guys who bare it all for 30 minutes at Kaos may have felt the need for something to lessen their inhibitions. You kind of explain the logic in your own posts. Unfair as it may be, the bars will no longer tolerate their staff imbibing illegal substances and coming to work because of the consequences. The workers will also put pressure on their colleagues because they don't want to be out on the street either if the bar is closed. Quote
Gaybutton Posted September 26, 2007 Author Posted September 26, 2007 Unfair as it may be, the bars will no longer tolerate their staff imbibing illegal substances and coming to work because of the consequences. The workers will also put pressure on their colleagues because they don't want to be out on the street either if the bar is closed. What you say makes sense and is entirely logical, which is exactly why I doubt it will ever happen that way. Quote
Up2u Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 So whats the new name for Kaos? ...... Quoting from the PGReport, "Villa Rouge Nightclub, formerly Kaos A Go Go, opened on 12 September in two of the three shophouses previously operated by Kaos. The popular show continues to be held at 22:00." Quote
Guest fountainhall Posted September 27, 2007 Posted September 27, 2007 What you say makes sense and is entirely logical, which is exactly why I doubt it will ever happen that way. In 28 years of visiting and now living in Thailand, I have never been able to get to grips with Thai logic. So I am certain Gaybutton is 100% right. Quote