Members MsGuy Posted September 20, 2011 Members Posted September 20, 2011 So as of 12:01 AM, Sept. 20, 2011, DADT is is dead. I had to post something to memorialize the day. When I was young, it wasn't so much that I didn't believe I would live long enough to see this day as that I couldn't conceive a world where it was even thinkable. I have good reason to believe that my father (WWII marine, decorated, battle field promotion to sgt., refused to accept a battle field promotion to lieutenant) was gay. Don't know for sure because by the time I was mature enough to put all the clues together, he had died and I couldn't ask. I wish he had lived long enough to share this day with me. Quote
Members lookin Posted September 20, 2011 Members Posted September 20, 2011 Nice thoughts, MsGuy. Thanks for posting. Sounds like your dad was ahead of his time. Quote
caeron Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 My father and elder brother were both career officers. I got the offer of a full ROTC scholarship but turned it down because I wasn't going to lie about who I was, even if I wasn't out yet. So much waste in human potential in this ban.... Quote
Guest hitoallusa Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 MsGuy, you had a wonderful dad. I pray that may he rest in peace. BTW you are still young and many many many more years to come. Hugs~~~ Quote
Members TampaYankee Posted September 20, 2011 Members Posted September 20, 2011 It took much too long but I'm pleased it is behind us. Now for DOMA. Quote
Guest Anton Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Hi MsGuy, I found the text on the stone quite impressive and I'd like to know the exact text. Would you be able to fill in the missing dots? What I could read was: When I was in the military They gave me a medal for killing two ... And a discharge for loving one. Most of all I find it impressive to find this on a tombstone. Sincerely, Anton. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Does anyone know if the people discharged under DOMA are not allowed to rejoin the service? Quote
Members MsGuy Posted September 20, 2011 Author Members Posted September 20, 2011 Does anyone know if the people discharged under DOMA are not allowed to rejoin the service? My understanding is that discarged gays can apply for re-enlistment on the same basis as any other honorably discharged former serviceman. Re-enlistment applications are judged on the basis of age, need for particular military skill sets, prior service record, etc. No special allowance for being involutarily separated, no compensation for lost years and no re-instatement at prior rank. ---- Anton: The missing word is "men". Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 That sucks. If you were thrown out for reasons that no longer apply you should be able to get back in in good standing no matter what. That's just basic fairness. Quote
Members KYTOP Posted September 20, 2011 Members Posted September 20, 2011 There have been many interesting stories today surrounding the first offical day of the repeal of DADT. Some soldiers decided to get married today and a gay soldier that decided to come out to his Dad today. His Dad lives in Alabama and he called him from Afganistan, video taped the call and posted it on youtube, BTW the Dad tells him he still loves him and is proud of him. Here is a link to the story and the youtube video is part of the story. http://blog.sfgate.com/hottopics/2011/09/20/us-soldier-comes-out-to-his-father/ Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Ok, that must made me melt with a level of "awwwww!" Quote
Guest hitoallusa Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 He is so cute and his daddy sounds so hot!! It seems like his daddy is not that old. Anyways, congratulations!!! Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 It's like the first emotional erection I've gotten in ages! Quote
Members MsGuy Posted September 23, 2011 Author Members Posted September 23, 2011 Just discovered this piece of bureaucratic insanity. It seems that, while gays separated from the services under DADT were being given honorable discharges, by fiat of the Sec. of Def. they were entitled to only 1/2 the severance pay due others in like circumstances. A certain Staff Sgt. Richard Collins, feeling that adding economic injury to insult was just a bit too much, engaged the ACLU to help him recover $12,351 the Air Force gypped him out of. Judge Christene Miller, the Federal Claims Court judge assigned the case, is questioning the wisdom of the Justice Department lawyers in pursuing their efforts to have the case dismissed in light of the recent demise of DADT. One can only hope that, just this once, common sense and common decency will prevail over bureaucratic inertia, even within the bowels of the Justice Department. Stick it to 'em, Staff Sergent!! Quote
