Politics Forum Moving into the Hooboy Pub ? A Male Escort Review Question for Members

[TotallyOz]

Nothing is set in stone yet. But, we wanted to get input from members on moving the political discussions back to the main forum. We separated them as on other sites the discussions got very heated and uncivil. However, I don't see that on this site. People act as gentlemen even when they have political differences.

Do you think the politics forum should be moved into the General Forum?

[Guest hitoallusa]

That's fine with me. Thank you for asking others opinion about this move.

Nothing is set in stone yet. But, we wanted to get input from members on moving the political discussions back to the main forum. We separated them as on other sites the discussions got very heated and uncivil. However, I don't see that on this site. People act as gentlemen even when they have political differences.

Do you think the politics forum should be moved into the General Forum?

[Guest CharliePS]

I see no need for a separate forum, since the Politics forum gets relatively little activity, and the same people seem to post there who post in the general forum. In fact, many of the current threads in this forum could arguably be in the Politics forum, so why multiply categories unnecessarily ("pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate", as William of Occam would say)?

[TownsendPLocke]

Then please devise a way to "flag" the post as a political/religious posting= neither of which I have any interest in. These are not the reason I come to a IBB called MaleEscortReview.com

[Guest zipperzone]

I also agree that it makes sense to amalgamate the 2 forums. Often there is an interesting comment in the Politics forum which may go unnoticed. By posting it in the Pub, everyone wins. If it is of no interest to someone they can just skip it.

[Lucky]

Yes, no flags needed.

[Guest EXPAT]

I'd rather they stay separate. I'm wondering what's driving you to consolidate?

[OneFinger]

Personally, I also see no reason for combining them. I really don't care for the drama or heated opinions that I've seen in similar forums on "other" sites.

If they are combined, then I agree with some kind of flag or indicator so I can know to avoid those posts.

I love the civility that currently exists in this forum. Not sure why you'd want to put that in jeopardy with something that has the potential to upset the personality in this forum.

There are many discussion groups that I intentionally avoid on this and other sites. Combining politics into this group would certainly make me think twice about participating. After a frustrating day at work, the last think I want are political posts infiltrating a place I come to for enjoyment and escape.

[axiom2001]

Nothing is set in stone yet. But, we wanted to get input from members on moving the political discussions back to the main forum. We separated them as on other sites the discussions got very heated and uncivil. However, I don't see that on this site. People act as gentlemen even when they have political differences.

Do you think the politics forum should be moved into the General Forum?

I'm neutral since I have yet to frequent this forum on your site as well as on the other one!

[eeyore]

I'm for keeping them separate.

[Lucky]

I don't see the opposition. We need to liven things up here, not by being timid and afraid of a post that might say something we don't like, but let's get some conversations going. If you have stopped posting here, don't handcuff the rest of us.

Having a separate politics forum divides the community. Let's bring everyone together and make this the discussion forum.

How about this?

WHEREAS, the Progressive Caucus of the California Democratic Party recognizes the challenge presented by President Obama's negotiating away Democratic Party principles to extremist Republicans, we are challenged by President Obama in the following ways:

His unilateral closed-door budget offer to slash Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, which endangers the New Deal and War on Poverty safety nets.

His determination to escalate U.S. militarism through illegal secret CIA drone attacks and unauthorized wars.

His willingness to extend the Bush tax cuts for millionaires and bail out big banks without ending the foreclosure crisis that displaces American working families

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His insistence on pushing a health insurance bill which enriches private insurance companies while ignoring growing support for single-payer health care or robust public options.

His continuance of President Bush’s assault on civil liberties with an extension of the repressive Patriot Act.

His failure to restore due process, including the protection of whistleblowers and habeas corpus.

His numerous failures to adhere to international law.

The continuing practice of nationwide FBI raids of anti-war progressive protestors.

His decision to increase the arrests and deportations of undocumented workers.

His facilitation of the privatizing of the public sphere, which includes education and housing, among others.

His disregard of his promises to the Labor movement.

His failure to adequately protect the environment and adequately address climate change.

WHEREAS, the Progressive Caucus of the California Democratic Party recognizes the historical significance of the Eugene McCarthy/Robert F. Kennedy anti-war challenge to President Lyndon Johnson. The challenge followed President Johnson's decision to escalate U.S. military involvement in Vietnam, betraying his campaign promise to end a war that polarized America. Similarly, we recognize the danger and betrayal that the current "Grand Bargain" represents to the legacy of Franklin Delano Roosevelt's signature gift to all Americans, Social Security and the New Deal, a point of pride for all Democrats.

WHEREAS, the Progressive Caucus of the California Democratic Party is committed to the understanding that an interest in a 2012 Democratic presidential primary challenge will not interfere with President Obama's ability to govern and not limit his ability to do so in ways that include invoking Constitutional options, we recognize that this will, in fact, raise debate on important issues without risking the ability to mobilize and energize the base of the Democratic Party to elect a triumphant leader to counter the far-right agenda.

THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, to make our views heard, the Progressive Caucus of the California Democratic Party will begin the process of contacting other Democratic organizations, Democratic Party members and public organizations that share our views on the issues and which seek to alter the course of history by exploring other steps to effect a necessary change, including a possible primary challenge to President Obama.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=94646#ixzz1U1wTKiWZ

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

I say we just flag every post started by (insert your least favorite poster's name here) so we all know whose posts NOT to read.

[caeron]

Political posts may generate a great deal of activity, but they generate very little light. I don't want to engage in such and prefer they be segregated.

[RA1]

Lucky-

I was hoping the resolution of the Progressive Caucus of the California Democratic Party was something you were proposing we should continue to do.

Best regards,

RA1

[xenophile]

I'd love to see them together. I hate seeing forums splintered into scads of subsections, and I usually wind up forgetting to check outside the main board.

Besides the subsidiary sections get much less traffic and visibility - almost a punishment for deviating from mainline lightweight chatty topics. A tagging system works best because you can have multiple tags - one per topic - and people can filter on their own interests and aversions.

[JKane]

The divisions seem arbitrary and inconsistently enforced, plus it's not like either forum is overwhelmed with discussion, so I guess I'd be for combining.

Then using the sandbox for trollbait/etc.

There will be posts/threads we don't want to read in any forum, just skip 'em. I read the ones I'm interested in then click the magical 'mark all posts as read'. I'll put up with skipping several more gladly if the change also unstifles conversations which interest me!

[lookin]

Seems like most are OK with combining them, as I was before reading this thread. I now realize that there are some valued posters who have strong feelings about keeping politics out of the main forum, and I would now vote for respecting their views.

As one who has been pretty sloppy about where my political opinions get posted, I apologize to anyone who has stepped in one of mine without fair warning.

I do enjoy the political discussions here, and rarely come across the kinds of abusive posts seen in other places, in other times. I'd encourage folks to give the Politics Forum another try, especially if you haven't stopped by for a year or two.

For my part, I'll move my screeds down there as long as it's around.

After all, anything that makes for strange bedfellows is OK in my book.

[Guest EXPAT]

I'll just repeat my request to keep them separate. I think that you are asking for trouble or a partial exodus if you do combine them.

[TotallyOz]

No decision has been made yet. But, why on earth would there be a partial exodus for combining the forums? I just don't understand that at all.

[RA1]

No reason for an exodus at all. You guys go out of the way to NOT offend most everyone. Thanks.

Best regards,

RA1

[Lucky]

I am in favor of combining them and do not understand the opposition to it. But ultimately we will survive either choice.

[Guest gcursor]

Lucky:

I disagree with your viewpoint. What happens here could very well set the standard for years to come. Millions of people will be impacted when they flood to this site looking for political debate. Little children will be left out in the streets as the world darkens to a new world order. People will hide in their basements and start stockpiling supplies. The news will talk of a global impending cataclysmic event that has been sparked by the moving of a political forum. People all over the world will sense danger in the air and will arm themselves. A massive battle will ensue that will wipe out whole nations. All precipitated by just the moving of the politics forum...

gcursor

I am in favor of combining them and do not understand the opposition to it. But ultimately we will survive either choice.

[TownsendPLocke]

There are a lot of IBB's/sites on which posters can comment on Politics and or religious issues. There are few that are moderated enough so as to remove post that are inflamatory/derogatory.It is a full time job-and a moderator is rarely a popular person.

Again-I do not visit this site for anyones politcal opinions.I really do not give a rats ass about most peoples "debates"on such issues-and certainly not those of many of the posters on this IBB.That is not to say I dislike these folks-It is just that I truley do not care.

I do care about coming here to read about hot guys doing fun/naughty things with or with out paid sponsorship.The occasional fun post is most welcome as well. That is all I look for from my visits to a site called Maleescortreview.

I rarely visit "The Other site"anymore since it has become a place for old aunties to hand out knitting advice while reminiscing of strip clubs that have been closed for a decade.YAWN!

Know I will be the first to acknowladge that not all of my posts are the most groundbreaking. But I do try to keep my post in the spirit of the site.Not all of my posts will appeal to everyone and that is fine also.

I will be one of those that visits less often should I find a general forum populated by posts I have no interest in.This is not a threat(mos of you could care less)but just a reflection of other IBBs I visit that have decreased in popularity because of such actions.

IBB's are pretty much a dimishing return with the presence of other forms of social media. I think it much wiser to specialize in a particular feild of interest rather than trying to beall things to all people.

[Lucky]

Townsend, you hardly ever post any more here anyway, so let's be upfront about that. A change as suggested would barely affect you.

Gcursor, given the stock market's reaction to the possible change, you could be right!

[Guest EXPAT]

There are a lot of IBB's/sites on which posters can comment on Politics and or religious issues. There are few that are moderated enough so as to remove post that are inflamatory/derogatory.It is a full time job-and a moderator is rarely a popular person.

Again-I do not visit this site for anyones politcal opinions.I really do not give a rats ass about most peoples "debates"on such issues-and certainly not those of many of the posters on this IBB.That is not to say I dislike these folks-It is just that I truley do not care.

I do care about coming here to read about hot guys doing fun/naughty things with or with out paid sponsorship.The occasional fun post is most welcome as well. That is all I look for from my visits to a site called Maleescortreview.

I rarely visit "The Other site"anymore since it has become a place for old aunties to hand out knitting advice while reminiscing of strip clubs that have been closed for a decade.YAWN!

Know I will be the first to acknowladge that not all of my posts are the most groundbreaking. But I do try to keep my post in the spirit of the site.Not all of my posts will appeal to everyone and that is fine also.

I will be one of those that visits less often should I find a general forum populated by posts I have no interest in.This is not a threat(mos of you could care less)but just a reflection of other IBBs I visit that have decreased in popularity because of such actions.

IBB's are pretty much a dimishing return with the presence of other forms of social media. I think it much wiser to specialize in a particular feild of interest rather than trying to beall things to all people.

I agree completely.