TotallyOz Posted June 19, 2011 Share Posted June 19, 2011 At least that has been my opinion all along. I don't think she got a fair trial and I think she was railroaded. This week, there have been lots of reports about the new trial. I hope the Italian judicial system is able to look beyond how crazy they look to the world and give justice to this girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 There are some statements(?) allegedly made by Amanda and her boyfriend don't make any sense. I strongly think, however, that the Italian court doesn't have strong evidence to convict Amanda. Unfortunately, they did. What makes me curious is why some statements made by Amanda and Sollecito don't match and contradict each other. If that had not been the case then Amanda would have avoid this unfortunate event. No one will know I guess. I think Guede is the sole killer. But Amanda and her boyfriend might have been involved in the process. In light of the lack of evidence I think Amanda should go free. But why did she sign on a statement that wasn't true? Did they use enhanced interrogation techniques on her? Curious mind wants to know. At least that has been my opinion all along. I don't think she got a fair trial and I think she was railroaded. This week, there have been lots of reports about the new trial. I hope the Italian judicial system is able to look beyond how crazy they look to the world and give justice to this girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 It's very, very clear that Amanda Knox is not guilty. What's also clear is that there are two things that people in the town she was living in hate: 1. White girls who have sex with black guys. 2. Erasmus students in general. Because she was an Erasmus student with a black boyfriend the local jury was sure to convict her. To believe she is guilty you have to believe that a girl with no history of mental health problems or violence up and decided after smoking pot that she wanted to lesbian rape her roommate and then was calm enough to go back and smoke pot and fuck her boyfriend. Not really that likely. The most they have on her is some lesbian erotica on her MySpace page. Big fucking deal. The evidence was handled so poorly that there isn't much credibility to it - and having a microdot of blood on your own knife is not that big a deal. I've cut myself a couple of times and if you looked at any of my knives with a microscope you'd probably find my own blood on a few of them. As to her inconsistent statements. Any 19 year old girl being browbeaten by police in a foriegn country in another language is going to make some inconsistent statements - particularly when trying to describe a knight when you had done a bunch of bong hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 There are some statements(?) allegedly made by Amanda and her boyfriend don't make any sense. I strongly think, however, that the Italian court doesn't have strong evidence to convict Amanda. Unfortunately, they did. What makes me curious is why some statements made by Amanda and Sollecito don't match and contradict each other. If that had not been the case then Amanda would have avoid this unfortunate event. No one will know I guess. I think Guede is the sole killer. But Amanda and her boyfriend might have been involved in the process. In light of the lack of evidence I think Amanda should go free. But why did she sign on a statement that wasn't true? Did they use enhanced interrogation techniques on her? Curious mind wants to know. If you consider beating someone with a phone book and not letting them eat, drink or go to the bathroom until they sign a statement to be "enhanced interrogation techniques" than yes they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TampaYankee Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 She may or may not be guilty but for sure the prosecutors and justice system have failed miserably to prove it. I believe the prosecutors are prosecuting for their reputation now, not for justice. I find it astonishing that a supposedly democratic government can get by with such an apparent incompetent institution as this seems to go beyond just one bad prosecutor. But then Italy has a history of misfeasance and malfeasance of government or governments, as so many have failed over the last 40 years. Look at Berlesconi now -- maybe better spelled Burlesqoni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members msclelovr Posted September 28, 2011 Members Share Posted September 28, 2011 She may or may not be guilty but for sure the prosecutors and justice system have failed miserably to prove it. I believe the prosecutors are prosecuting for their reputation now, not for justice. I find it astonishing that a supposedly democratic government can get by with such an apparent incompetent institution as this seems to go beyond just one bad prosecutor. But then Italy has a history of misfeasance and malfeasance of government or governments, as so many have failed over the last 40 years. Look at Berlesconi now -- maybe better spelled Burlesqoni. I'm obviously stepping in front of a firing squad here, but I believe that she may well be guilty. Being European, I don't accept that the Italian judicial system is incompetent. And I watched the BBC News give extensive coverage of her arrest and trial as the victim was English. There were many inconsistencies in Amanda Knox's story/stories of what took place. And if innocent, her behaviour was decidedly odd: turning cartwheels in the police station when taken in for questioning; buying sexy lingerie the next day and being heard to sexually proposition her boy-friend in the shop. While we may never know the truth of what took place, I feel very sorry for the victim and her family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 BBB Amanda's boyfriend is not black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 The guy she was fucking was north african and is considered black in Italy. I've read the Italian' newspapers descriptions of this thing and the racism is very, very evident. And the UK newspaper coverage is pretty fucking inaccurate (not very shocking given a UK victim and a US person accused of the crime.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Also, seeking high risk sex is a very, very common psychological reaction to having someone you know die - particularly if they die violently. And inconsistent statements are normal during any police questioning whether you are guilty or innocent. Police interrogators use an eight step interrogation system that is designed to generate inconsistent statements from suspects so they can be used against them. It's been proven time and time again that these tactics produce inconsistent statements whether you are guilty or innocent. Also, doing weird shit in police stations is normal for suspects - because the stress of the event and the interrogation techniques used induce artificial states of shock and people in shock do weird ass shit. Doing cartwheels is not that weird. Some suspects, even innocent ones, go into the bathroom to masturbate between interrogations. (I'm going to stop now because I'm getting pretty fucking close to giving away what I did for a living before I retired and don't want to have that much information out about me on an escort related site.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Finally, I'm Euro too and don't think the entire Italian justice system is fucked up. However, I do know that this particular prosecutor has a history of fuck ups and has even gone to jail for abuse of power and thinks Satanism is behind most crime in Italy. At one point during a serial killer investigation a few years ago he got the brilliant theory that even though the M.O. was the same in many, many killings and they could prove that only one gun was used this prosecutor decided that the thought the killings were done by a secret cabal of government officials who had decided they could only stay in power by making ritualistic offerings of the dead to ancient dark gods. He has proven himself to be a nut job who has prosecuted innocent people before and used illegal interrogation techniques and is currently being investigated for planting false evident in multiple cases not related to Amanda Knox. In short, he has zero credibility and is both insane and corrupt. That's not an indictment of the Italian judicial system - it's an indictment of a a single bad apple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 He is from southern Italy Giovinazzo, Bari. What am I missing? The guy she was fucking was north african and is considered black in Italy. I've read the Italian' newspapers descriptions of this thing and the racism is very, very evident. And the UK newspaper coverage is pretty fucking inaccurate (not very shocking given a UK victim and a US person accused of the crime.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 You are thinking of her official boyfriend. She was also doing that dude from the Ivory Coast on the side. (A fact the Italian media won't stop writing about.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Oh my I didn't know that at all. Why doesn't the US media mention it at all. So they knew each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 She described him as her "fuck buddy" on her MySpace blog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 It's interesting that none of the Us media has reported that they know each other and it hasn't brought up in the trial. Why is that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Because the prosecution has hinted that the sex was non consensual (even though Amanda has not said that) and it's the law in America that you can't name names if non consent is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Do you think US tabloids will leave this alone? I find that odd. Because the prosecution has hinted that the sex was non consensual (even though Amanda has not said that) and it's the law in America that you can't name names if non consent is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hitoallusa Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Are you a James Bond? Can I be a bond girl then? (I'm going to stop now because I'm getting pretty fucking close to giving away what I did for a living before I retired and don't want to have that much information out about me on an escort related site.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 The US tabloids think she'll get released and they want the first exclusive interview with her when she gets out so none of them are going to publish anything that would piss off the Knox family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 I am predicting that she will be found innocent on Monday of next week. Any wagers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucky Posted October 2, 2011 Members Share Posted October 2, 2011 BiBottom Boy is the only one who posted on this thread who tried to back up his statement with facts. If you think she is not guilty, why not explain why you think so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MsGuy Posted October 2, 2011 Members Share Posted October 2, 2011 I'm not inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to a criminal justice system that indicts folks on manslaughter charges for opining that they doubt a major earthquake is eminent. Even if they weren't really qualified to judge the matter. I offer no opinion on Ms. Knox's guilt. She seems to have behaved oddly, but I just don't know enough about the case to judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TampaYankee Posted October 3, 2011 Members Share Posted October 3, 2011 Not Guilty !! Amanda Knox Verdict: Murder Conviction Overturned Read it here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotallyOz Posted October 3, 2011 Author Share Posted October 3, 2011 It was just as I have said for years. There was no evidence to support a guilty verdict. I am glad they did the right thing and let her go. I do feel bad for the family of the victim in this case but if there was any case I have seen in years that had reasonable doubt, it was this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiBottomBoy Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Yay Amanda! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
