And now for the nasty bits=A dirty little secret from the Palm Springs bash

[TownsendPLocke]

Yes=this is the 27th thread about the Palm Springs weekend.

I want to thank Oliver,Lucky,Lucky's partner,Jason,Epigonos for a great weekend. These ARE the folks who worked to making it a great weekend.

And now I would like to tell you about a person who had nothing to do with the weekend except show up.

I want it to be common knowledge on MER(because I doubt it will ever be disclosed on "the other site") that the guy who runs"the other site"had absolutely NOTHING to do with any part of the planning or hosting of the Palm Springs weekend.

In fact he was actully the fully sponsored guest of one of the regular posters on "The Other Site" That is correct-some poor misguided soul paid for the trasportation and lodging=and who knows what else- for the fella many others are saying"thank you for,,,,"in other threads and on the other site.

There has been(and I doubt there ever will be) any sort of acknowledgement of this-let alone any note of grattitude from the recipient of this charity.

This fella was for me at least an unwelcome intruder.

If any of the 'scorts want to learn how to be a freeloading charity case while pretending to be a big shot then THAT is the lesson to thank him for.

Now hopefully he can get someone to donate enough cash to get that disgusting skirt dry cleaned

[TotallyOz]

Yes=this is the 27th thread about the Palm Springs weekend.

My oh My. Another one?

I want to thank Oliver,Lucky,Lucky's partner,Jason,Epigonos for a great weekend. These ARE the folks who worked to making it a great weekend.

You are right. Those are the guys that did all the work! And, they need to be thanked.

In fact he was actully the fully sponsored guest of one of the regular posters on "The Other Site" That is correct-some poor misguided soul paid for the trasportation and lodging=and who knows what else- for the fella many others are saying"thank you for,,,,"in other threads and on the other site.

I don't know if this is accurate or not. If so, I am truly impressed. How did he get someone to do that? I can't even get a free dinner. Airfare and Hotels. Damm. I want to be him!

Now hopefully he can get someone to donate enough cash to get that disgusting skirt dry cleaned

Really now? Tell us how you really feel Townsend. jk I think we know your feelings.

And, may I say that I really enjoyed the weekend and hope that all these thread will tell everyone how much they missed at the event and that next year's event will be even better. Now, if I can only save up enough money to take Benjamin with me, I'd be in heaven.

[OneFinger]

Really wish I had been able to attend the PS weekend. Seems like it always occurs on the same weekend as our "must attend" company meeting.

But, after reading all the comments on the "other site" I would have thought this whole event was inspired, sponsored, and coordinated by Daddy. I'd actually like to meet him sometime and have the chance to form my own opinion of this guy.

I can't believe all the people over there that are thanking him for his assistance and help this year. Perhaps he does more shepherding and mentoring than what most of us see. I'm also confused why those same people aren't singing the praises of this site.

Doesn't make sense.

[Guest FourAces]

I might be mistaken and I know if I am someone will correct me ...

The Palm Springs Weekend was originally started by Lucky along with Jackhammer, Townsend, CharliePS and Oliver.

How could anybody get it so wrong?

In fact I even believe the PS Weekend was the west coasts answer to some less formal get-togethers happening in Montreal and NYC at the time.

Furthermore I believe the original name of it was called the Kill Rico Report Guy Weekend

[Guest NYTomcat]

I don't know if this is accurate or not. If so, I am truly impressed. How did he get someone to do that? I can't even get a free dinner. Airfare and Hotels. Damm. I want to be him!

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Not completely accurate being one one the many "poor misguided fools" who happily helped fund daddy's attendence at the event. He has done as one finger points out more than many know individually for people. No doubt he's a character... but I think we all are a bit. Oz I personally found the way you two attended together a real kudos to both of you. I know there's no love lost but truly you made it a gathering of gentlemen for all concerned and I want to say thank you. For that. Honestly I thought you and lucky were true class acts as I always have. Though some of the vitriol here even from our illustrious lucky is distasteful but he is as always the Guy who speaks his mind. Though its a bit bitchy at times.... lol. So am I so .... its all good.

Reality was a joint effort of posters and escorts over a dozen strong helped fund his attending the event... all people who felt he helped them through the year and who wanted him there. Something tells me we will do it again.... uh oh....

Guess the unwelcome intruders will be back Townsend. Unless our gracious hosts oliver and puppy say otherwise... of course next time you need to join us at barracks. The leather bar was humming when we arrived and will feature prominently in next years event im sure. What a hot night. Romann in leather sailor suit... tyger in full fisting regalia. Dane and ryaan in halters and fatigues. Ace in leather Bodysuit. Natesf in leather. And david SF in little more than that boyish smile. Trust me you want to hang with us after hours. We have too much fun. Us unwelcome intruders know how to party dirty and clad in chains leather sweat and muscles. Woof. Or you can sit around and bitch about daddy..... oz Next time im dragging your ass with us. What a party.

[Guest FourAces]

Reality was a joint effort of posters and escorts over a dozen strong helped fund his attending the event... all people who felt he helped them through the year and who wanted him there. Something tells me we will do it again.... uh oh....

Such a pity. A grown man who runs a web site that is supposed to promote a culture of escorts and clients instead uses his site to promote himself by begging at every possible moment for donations and other financial help.

Because daddy could not handle the gift of a site he took and allowed it to become one of the poor jokes of the Internet does not mean he has earned much respect from others.

Because daddy could not handle his own tech business or mater his own finances does not mean he has earned much respect from others.

Because you and a group of people gave this man the funds to attend an event he had nothing to do with for many years is mind numbing ... then you come over here to post your defense of such a hideous act is vomit like.

I'll stop here believe me I could channel Rico right now but I probably would get banned from here and I have way too much respect for OZ and TY to o that own their site. But I will say if you don't think I know daddy I assure you Rico does in detail!

Don't you have a gutter message board to attend to with hundreds of mindless posts?

[Guest hitoallusa]

I think it was nice of them to help Daddy to attend the event. They all had fun and that's what counts.

[Guest FourAces]

I think it was nice of them to help Daddy to attend the event. They all had fun and that's what counts.

OK I will give you that ... but why the fuck are they thanking daddy who had absolutely nothing to do with creating or hosting any part of the event? And why do they its always they btw have to let everybody know what fools they are giving this guy money? Is it publicity or is it charity?

[TotallyOz]

Don't you have a gutter message board to attend to with hundreds of mindless posts?

There are good and relevant posts on both boards. I think this one kicks ass, but I am prejudice.

I think it was nice of them to help Daddy to attend the event. They all had fun and that's what counts.

I agree. It was very nice of others to help him if that is what happened. I read that Daddy is out of work and he had a few fundraisers for it. He runs the board. It is his baby so to speak. The gathering was a group of posters from both boards. He was not able to attend for financial reasons and I think it very nice that others wanted him to be there and offered to help.

OK I will give you that ... but why the fuck are they thanking daddy who had absolutely nothing to do with creating or hosting any part of the event? And why do they its always they btw have to let everybody know what fools they are giving this guy money? Is it publicity or is it charity?

I didn't know of the thread you were referring to so I went over and read it. It seems that most are thanking Daddy for the site and for running it and giving them the chance to meet together. At least that is what I think most of them mean.

What one man does with his money is his business. I don't like anyone telling me that I am a fool for supporting 7 Thai boyfriends or for staying in nice hotels or for buying gadgets that I don't need. It is my money and I'll spend it how I choose. If they want to give him money or even buy him a house, good for them. They worked hard for it and they should have the right to spend the money any way they choose.

(one paragraph removed for a night's sleep)

Is it at all possible to just move beyond the Daddy issues?

[Guest hitoallusa]

I don't know a lot about Daddy but I appreciate his service for the other site. As far as I know Tom, Lee and many new members got a lot of help there and were able to meet other posters in a similar difficult situation. I can understand that they are thankful for that. I myself was able to see what other clients go through and people there helped me understand myself better. I believe they are thanking him for bringing people in a similar difficult situation together. Honestly, if I had known I would have chipped in. I have been recently slammed for not being logical at work so I might be wrong.

I think what they did was very nice and it touched my heart. They didn't have to do that but they did. What about letting Daddy have his day? Life is lonely and hard for all of us, sometimes we are just lucky enough to have a day or two to be appreciated by others around us. I hope Daddy enjoyed his time there.

OK I will give you that ... but why the fuck are they thanking daddy who had absolutely nothing to do with creating or hosting any part of the event? And why do they its always they btw have to let everybody know what fools they are giving this guy money? Is it publicity or is it charity?

[TampaYankee]

Happy to see that many are sharing their observations and impressions of, and experiences at the PS Weekend. Most appreciated by those of us unable to attend. Thanks to all and as a reminder, all posters with interests in escorts and escorting and parties are welcome here.

[MsGuy]

I have some real doubts in my own judgement in posting this but sometimes you just gotta do as the spirit moves you.

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Guys, what business is it of ours if a group of men freely chose to use their own money to front Daddy's expenses to attend PS? Or, if it comes to that, choose to do so again next year? It's their money, they can allocate to whatever uses trip their trigger. Personally, I find all this sneering at Daddy for having to depend on the goodwill of his friends to attend the PS weekend unpleasant and unbecoming to MER's good reputation.

I have no problem with sharp discussions here of the way Daddy runs his board if for no other reason than he is unlikely to allow his decisions to be seriously questioned there. I have participated in a few such threads myself. But the private decision of Tom and others to sponser Daddy and his private decision to accept is not a fit subject for our public discussion much less our public derision.

By all accounts, a good time was had by all. By all accounts, Oz and Daddy (& Lucky and all others with grievances against Daddy) behaved like gentlemen throughout the event. By all accounts, none of the public functions were ruined by his presence; some (not all) found his attendance to be a bonus. What good does all this mean spirited posting accomplish now?

[TampaYankee]

I have some real doubts in my own judgement in posting this but sometimes you just gotta do as the spirit moves you.

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Guys, what business is it of ours if a group of men freely chose to use their own money to front Daddy's expenses to attend PS? Or, if it comes to that, choose to do so again next year? It's their money, they can allocate to whatever uses trip their trigger. Personally, I find all this sneering at Daddy for having to depend on the goodwill of his friends to attend the PS weekend unpleasant and unbecoming to MER's good reputation.

I have no problem with sharp discussions here of the way Daddy runs his board if for no other reason than he is unlikely to allow his decisions to be seriously questioned there. I have participated in a few such threads myself. But the private decision of Tom and others to sponser Daddy and his private decision to accept is not a fit subject for our public discussion much less our public derision.

By all accounts, a good time was had by all. By all accounts, Oz and Daddy (& Lucky and all others with grievances against Daddy) behaved like gentlemen throughout the event. By all accounts, none of the public functions were ruined by his presence; some (not all) found his attendance to be a bonus. What good does all this mean spirited posting accomplish now?

I agree. It is personal choice and personal business.

It is interesting to hear about, though, to know that several members and escorts cared enough and were generous enough to bring him along to share the weekend. It was a nice gesture and means he must be endeared to his membership.

[Guest hitoallusa]

I do like that part of Lucky. He always speaks his mind and is honest about it. You know where he stands so it is much easier to work things out. I don't like the word "bitchy" is appropriate. What about changing it to "being direct or straightforward".

Honestly I thought you and lucky were true class acts as I always have. Though some of the vitriol here even from our illustrious lucky is distasteful but he is as always the Guy who speaks his mind. Though its a bit bitchy at times.... lol. So am I so .... its all good.

[Guest epigonos]

NYTomCat paid me what I consider a major compliment, on Daddy’s site, by saying that I am a “say exactly what you think mother fucker”. Thus, I guess, it is time for me to chime in on this thread. I will readily admit that I am finding it somewhat difficult to express myself the way I would wish.

The Palm Springs Weekend was started a number of years ago by Lucky and Oliver. Over the years it has evolved into a major gathering for an ever increasing number of us. The weekend is currently built around three major events; 1.) a dinner Saturday evening, 2.) some type of theatre event after the dinner and 3.) a pool event at Oliver’s on Sunday afternoon. After the theatre on Saturday evening the group breaks up into a number of subgroups doing what interests them.

Speaking for myself I thoroughly enjoy the Saturday evening dinner and the Sunday afternoon pool event. I am somewhat indifferent to the theatre event but have attended every year until this year. My guest had attended the Follies on two previous occasions and thus we passed on going. After dinner my guest and I went to a local bar with a number of other attendees and had a drink after which we returned to our hotel. Several other attendees went on to participate in karaoke at Spurline and the leather scene at the Barracks.

Each person does exactly as he wishes without being judged by others or ridiculed for his choice of diversions. Frankly, I personally, find karaoke an absolute and total bore which I go out of my way to avoid – fine, my choice. I have NEVER found the leather scene particularly exciting and as far as I’m concerned I certainly don’t have the body for it and am w-a-y too old to look good in it – fine, my choice.

Now to be totally honest I must admit that if I were to live the rest of my life and NEVER see some of the attendees again I would not feel deprived in the least. Am I going to name those individuals – certainly NOT. Nobody elected me god so it behooves me to keep my fucking mouth shut and be pleasant. I would guess that there is no great love lost between Daddy and TotallyOz yet they were both gracious and pleasant when in each other's presence – exceedingly well done. If they can behave in such a manner the rest of us should be able to do so a well. Furthermore neither has posted anything negative about the other on their respective sites -- exceedingly well done. If they can behave in such a manner the rest of us should be able to do as well.

In conclusion I would like to say that I thoroughly enjoyed meeting TotallyOz for the first time and hope that he will make the effort to attend ALL future Palm Springs Weekends. I also thoroughly enjoyed bantering with Daddy and hope that he will make the effort to attend ALL future Palm Springs Weekends. These two men provide escort hobbyists with the information we require to pursue our hobby with success. I salute and thank you both.

[Guest CharliePS]

Many people who know Daddy and Oz have strong feelings about them; for that matter, many who don't know them at all have strong feelings about them. Some people are comfortable posting their opinions, on whichever site they favor. I think it is commendable that neither Daddy nor Oz, to the best of my memory, has ever used his own site to personally attack the other, no matter what their private feelings may be.

[RA1]

Ditto to you, Charlie.

Best regards,

RA1

[Guest DaneMichaels]

Yes=this is the 27th thread about the Palm Springs weekend.

In fact he was actully the fully sponsored guest of one of the regular posters on "The Other Site" That is correct-some poor misguided soul paid for the trasportation and lodging=and who knows what else- for the fella many others are saying"thank you for,,,,"in other threads and on the other site.

There has been(and I doubt there ever will be) any sort of acknowledgement of this-let alone any note of grattitude from the recipient of this charity.

"poor misguided soul" or souls? I do not consider myself this, nor do the guests who pulled together the cash. It was an honor to contribute to the pot that got daddy to PS. What did I get out of it..... I met this Man and received my first Daddy lecture on how to save, how to market, how to smile more, and ..... introduced to guys I'd now consider my friends, as well as Ace of Las Vegas photographer... In-which, Daddy showed up to support me even though I, just little ol" Dane Michaels from Raleigh (nowhere) NC dont have the big name that the others do, he came to see this new guy "blossom" in fact he spent quite a bit of time throughout the weekend helping both myself and Ryaan Morgan feel comfortable at all events and teaching us "tricks of the trade" and networking us. I am eternally thankful for what he did for 2 totally new guys through the whole weekend.

I personally heard THANK YOU, from Daddy's lips about one thousand times this last weekend. To be honest I don't know how I would have handled that whole situation, he was gracious, more than thankful, and just..Daddy to each and everyone of us, whether big bright shinny name, or newbie. It is that, that we thanked him so gratefully for. I may be scrutinized for saying this, but I dont think Daddy owes an enormous written thank you when all involved were treated as one of his own, that is escorts and clients alike. As its been said so many times.... All had a great time in PS so what do the little things matter? Here Here to 2 Giants in this "industry" at a very small gathering maintaining professionalism and speaking kind words despite controversy on either site. I agree as it was coined from another member, shouldn't we be able to do the same and set aside our own personal vendettas? I think standing ovations for both men as well as Lucky, Oliver& Jason.. and anyone behind the scenes that made this event happen.

[Guest zipperzone]

I did not attend the PS weekend. Never have, but hope to be able to do so in the future.

In the interest of "full disclosure" I was an active member on the "other site" for years. I no longer am.

But, judging from Daddy's past performances, I am truly amazed that he didn't get into a snit about something and take Pam Springs offline for a couple of weeks while he readjusted his underwear. Maybe he's learning in his old age

[TotallyOz]

I personally heard THANK YOU, from Daddy's lips about one thousand times this last weekend.

Well Dane. Lets be real here. If you were dressed in leather and had me wearing a dog collar with an occasional spank on the ass I'd be saying thank you all the time too. Why does Daddy get to have all the fun?

But, judging from Daddy's past performances, I am truly amazed that he didn't get into a snit about something and take Pam Springs offline for a couple of weeks while he readjusted his underwear.

LOL Zipperzone. Didn't you hear, Daddy doesn't wear underwear!

[Guest zipperzone]

LOL Zipperzone. Didn't you hear, Daddy doesn't wear underwear!

OZ: That truly comes under the category of "More Information than I Want to Know" :hyper:

As a side note, I think "going commando" can be very sexy on a younger hunky stud. But one gets to an age where it is NOT sexy at all and downright unsanitary. :excl:

[Guest hitoallusa]

I don't think Raleigh is nowhere.. It is not that small either. I actually like the city. Yes it may not be lively like New York but still it has everything. There are many successful escorts who are not well known. Some clients don't like famous escorts because they might draw an unnecessary attention in public. I think being moderately advertised is the best thing. Wish you the best!

little ol" Dane Michaels from Raleigh (nowhere) NC dont have the big name that the others do,

[Guest NYTomcat]

I think and at least Hope that Lucky knows my "bitchy" comment is a compliment. I have always valued his straightforward approach. Its his honesty I value more than any other quality. Im sure he knows that Its a quality I wouldnt mind emulating.

OZ It truly was a pleasure and the only thing I can say is Romann kept me so busy... I am sorry I didnt get more time to truly meet you... and we have to get TY there. seriously.

I really like the banter we have had here and honestly its got me more involved than I have been for awhile. Zipper should know I always loved a good sparring with him when he was a poster on the other site and Im actually glad to find he is still here. I may not agree with him but he always makes me think. Often a rarity for a loud mouth like me. LOL

Epigonos Got it right. Oz and Daddy (kilt and all) set a great stage for a good joint event. They are the ones around whom these sites circle. They are to be congratulated. That does not lessen the role of Oliver Lucky Charlie and so many other amazing men whose tireless work makes the event possible. It just adds to the experience

[Lucky]

A short message from Lucky. The Palm Springs weekend was started by me in 2005 as a way for posters to meet each other. It was not about escorts, but we were gllad they came. He'll, we were glad anyone came. The second year Oliver organized his pool event but I orva.used everything That became impossible this year when Daddy kicked me off his site. He was invited to the party this year against my express wishes by people who were themselves guests and had no right to invite anybody.

[Lucky]

Sorry I am typing by cell phone.