Karaoke Bar Employee shot dead in front of his bar in South Pattaya

[TotallyOz]

From the Pattaya City News:

 

Police Lieutenant Colonel Tanargit from Pattaya Police Station was called to the front of the Bang Pub in Soi Day Night 1 in South Pattaya just after 7am on Wednesday to investigate reports of a shooting at the location which led to the death of an employee of the Pub. The Officer made his way to the Pattaya Memorial Hospital to inspect the body of Khun Prongtaerp aged 19. He had sustained a gun shot wound to his head and was pronounced dead-on-arrival at Hospital. Back at the scene officer recovered bullet casings and examined CCTV pictures from a camera located outside the Bar. Two men on a motorbike were seen passing the Bar and the passenger produced a Gun and shot the victim. Witnesses explained that moments before the shooting, three men on a further bike drove past the bar and pointed in the direction of the victim. He apparently thought nothing of it and made his way to a local convenience store and was shot as he returned to the bar. Police have few clues as to any motive behind the shooting and are continuing their investigation into this murder.

 

 

http://www.pattayacitynews.net/news_08_08_50.htm

 

This boy is the boyfriend of a good friend of mine and a poster on this board. It is a very sad story and I am truly sorry for his loss. The boy was one of the nicest lads I have ever met in Thailand and a really trustworthy and sweet young man. My sympathies to his friends and lover.

 

When I lived in Soi Day Night, none of my boyfriends would allow me to go out late night without them, even to walk one block for soup. They said the area was much more dangerous at night than Sunee or other areas. I think the reason for this has to do with all of the karoke bars in the area and the guys and gals that frequent them and work there. I have personally been to Sundance many times and never had an issue. However, when I was living in an apartment in the area, there were few nights when we didn't hear a fight on the street or other troubles. It is sad that the area has been improving so much with the nice apartment buildings and food places but the night time after hours is not safe.

 

My heart really does go out to this young man's friends and family.

[Guest ear wig]

Test"

 

Thanks a lot Gaythailand at this sad time, things like this are so distressing unless it happens to you, no one can imagine how they would feel, if some one so special was taken away from them, a guy so handsome nice and charming, no drugs, very caring and wonderful laughter, and such good company, and a very good friend, no bad habits.

 

It's horrifying how some one like this, can be snuffed out, when he was just starting to enjoy life to the full., so many future plans we had ruined, its at time like this you know who your friends really are and I am blessed with many thank the lord. No more I can say at this time.

 

The latest is they have caught them and they will pay the price, but it will not bring him back how sad.

 

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.p...NEWS=0000003608

Rest In Peace

[Guest laurence]

This is a tragedy, and as Earwig states, no one can imagine the loss unless they also experience it themselves. My condolences.

[Guest rainwalker]

"We see every day the unexpected death of our friends and our enemies, we see new graves hourly opened for men older and younger than our selves, for the cautious and the careless, the dissolute and the temperate, for men who like us were providing to enjoy or improve hours now irreversibly cut off: we see all this, and yet, instead of living, let year glide after year in preparations to live." - Samuel Johnson

 

Maybe this is a reminder that we should all live right now instead of preparing to live tomorrow...

 

Condolences,

 

-R

[Gaybutton]

I too am deeply saddened to know something like this has happened. Nearly every day the news has stories about young people who die like this. Too often it is someone who probably never caused anyone else any harm in his life, and yet his life is suddenly cut short in such a needless, useless way.

Despite our personal differences, EarWig, I am truly sorry. I'm glad to know that whoever did this has been caught, but I realize that doesn't help very much.

[Guest wowpow]

Only a few days ago I read this poem and found it touching and kept it. I think it is very well known. I little thought how soon it would be appropriate or in what terrible circumstances. I like it because I think it is closer to the Thai thinking on death. I hope it may help a little.

 

 

Do not stand at my grave and weep,

 

I am not there, I do not sleep.

 

I am in a thousand winds that blow,

 

I am the softly falling snow.

 

I am the gentle showers of rain,

 

I am the fields of ripening grain.

 

I am in the morning hush,

 

I am in the graceful rush

 

of beautiful birds in circling flight,

 

I am the starshine of the night.

 

I am in the flowers that bloom,

 

I am in a quiet room.

 

I am in the birds that sing,

 

I am in each lovely thing.

 

Do not stand at my grave and cry,

 

I am not there. I do not die.

 

Mary Frye 1932

[Guest ear wig]

Despite our personal differences, EarWig, I am truly sorry. I'm glad to know that whoever did this has been caught, but I realize that doesn't help very much.

 

 

Thank you for all your loving from the heart condolences I have been over whelmed with emails

and love, but it is if there is so much silence with out him.

 

Please do not take my wind ups

to seriously, its at a time like this, I can be the real me and I am ever thank full I have also my

long time lover, Mr Pattaya 2003 they were inseparatable, and who is taking care of a lot of the funeral arrangements while I,m away.

 

Thank you my dearest friend wow pow you are ever the nicest guy around still. and we were last at your lovely home on the beach not so long ago.

 

And rainwalker: thank you also for your thoughts, I am sorry if I have offended you in any way, I know you are really a very nice guy.

 

Gaybutton I have known of you since you came to Pattaya from friends and seen you around, but I'm sure if you met me you would then see Im nothing like the guy you think I am, even though I'm sure your the guy I think I know.

 

Its amazing from one small post from Gaythailand it seems to have traveled the world, I cant thank everyone enough at this very difficult time.

 

At least they have got them whats it all for I dont know. they said he was a Pretty Boy and must be

 

gay.

http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.p...NEWS=0000003619

 

 

http://www.pattayapeople.com/default.asp?F...;IdArticle=6994

[billyhouston]

I read this last night and was simply lost for words. Later I tried to imagine what it would be like if my friend had his life ended in this fashion but it was too horrid even to contemplate.

 

Nothing I can write will ease the pain and anguish, but you have my condolances nevertheless.

[Bob]

Yes, condolences to Earwig and the boy's family. Sad, such a waste of his young life, and all too common everywhere.

 

 

[Guest wowpow]

 

I give up on trying, many times, to post a photo which will pop up automatically. The board always changes my link to the above. Please click above to see a photograph of this very handsome young man.

[Gaybutton]

A full, detailed story about this, with photos, is on the Pattaya Daily News web site at: http://www.pattayadailynews.com/shownews.p...NEWS=0000003619

[Guest Khunatm]

Over a period of time many of us have got to know LMTY, even those who have not actually met him in person. Readers have observed, many silently, and no doubt with varying emotions, the various postings and exchanges that have occurred on this and other forums.

 

But I would like to say, I was quiet moved to see that a member, who has locked horns with LMTY, has put aside the past to post and express genuine compassion as regards the tragedy that has involved LMTU.

 

For me, at least, this gesture was most up lifting.

 

As selfish as it may seem, the only way I can really feel what LMTU is experiencing is, god forbid, to imagine myself in his situation. Only then can I truly understand the devastation John is experiencing. I am sure he will deeply appreciate the gesture of the member I refer to and knowing, at this time, he is not alone, and is in our thoughts.

 

Deepest condolences.

[Guest monkleigh]

a very sad day, i knew this sincere person when he formerly started in the bars. But whats made me even more angry was that it was true about his personality being a real delight, & i couldnt imaging there being a bad bone anywhere in him.

 

Why does god always take the most gifted? Maybe because he knows they will make great servants in heavan...........

 

My thoughts are with you both

[Guest BKKvisitor]

Like other posters, I extend my regrets to all who knew the young man who was gunned down.

 

While reading one of the Pattaya News sidebar links reporting another incident involving a police volunteer who was arrested for a different crime, I was struck by the fact that the volunteer cop in question had committed previous offenses but was permitted to still maintain his volunteer police status:

 

"Mr. Uye-porn confessed to having seized Mr. Sakchai’s motorbike and demanding money. He claimed that Mr. Sakchai had cut him up on his motorbike and then ridden away. He further claimed that he had tried to contact the police but was unable to, so he deciding to act independently, impounding the motorbike and took a chance by taking care of the fine money, himself. However, police did not believe him as he had a previous record as a trouble-maker and also of preventing victims reporting him, using threats."

 

Now why would the Pattaya Police allow a known repeat offender to go free to do it again? I can't possibly imagine. Can you?

[Guest ear wig]

Sorry I tried to put this onto Sawatdee but even with new beta handle, it would not work, so if any one is writing over there, please put a link here to thank every one for there kind thoughts and messages at this difficult time.

 

http://www.sawatdee-gay-thailand.com/forum...rry-t12447.html

 

also some one sent me this bartsstop.

http://www.baht-stop.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2511

 

 

Horrendously today the funeral has been taking place in Nog Khai, I have been to many in and out of Thailand but this ritual of leaving to coffin open while it is burning, on what could only be called a Camp Fire, sorry about the pun is barbaric, all the others were guys over 70 who have had a good life, the last one of those was hideous enough, while we were putting a flower into the open coffin the poor guy was burning away and the flames were coming out of every orifice, this one was the worst things of my life, a young guy of 19 his lovely black hair still shining in the sun light, he was sleeping like a baby and then they lit the fire just on the farm, horrendous it was, not my way of saying good bye, but who am I just an onlooker as far as they were concerned, even though I’m sure they knew I was not really his boss, if the truth be known, he was mine, as he was an Alpha Male and he organized everything, as my other Guy does Mr Pattaya who was also crying like me like a baby, like all of us. what a crying shame.

 

If you want to really know some one is dead get them buried in Thailand, it is really final! but the chanting and the 12 Monks were amazing, so haunting and calming even so , also the boys of his friends and family were holding the coffin so touching, they all looked so inosent and wonderful.....If you was going to have a funeral, this is the place to do it, but not so basic, but it was there day not mine, we were just there, mainly only in body, our mind was thinking of all the wonderful times we have had together and wishing he was here, then a gust of wind slightly blew in my ear, I knew some how he was there with us, keeping an ever watchful eye on us, well I can dream, it’s the silence now, that is the worst and no laughter from him ever again, so sad. As you can imagine I’m crying even writing this.

 

Thank you so much for all your thoughts, even though I have had a big

problem even getting in to Sawatdee I have had to go the wow pow beta

way, I hope it works. No it does not, so I have no idea what the problem is, I can write to post but it says 'no such post' when I send it.

 

Yes my poor baby has been taken from us, not only me but all that loved

him, his family and friends, he was a 1 in a million, He was a Class act so much more I can not bare to think....may be not what every one would call good looking, even though some say he was stunning, and was asked to do some modelling in bangkok but thought the elderly thai guy only wanted to chat him up so just dismissed it, that was him, but his strength for me was his

heart, they say only the good die young and in this case it was true,

he never had a bad bone in his Body, never even shouted or got angry....even if he was drunk which was very rare only if we bought Chivers Regal...he would be laughing never angry.... he never said a word to his Murderers, they were telling me, when the gang passed, after he was going to the shop and this happened there was one shot in the eye, then 5 other shots did not stand a chance....... dead! .... and he always said to me, I have one

farang and that all I want, like most Boys in town he got chatted up

Incessantly, he was happy he had a look alike working in Euroboys I

think it was, and after that he said this boy can satisfy the farangs

more then I ever can, he was so much, fun and amusing, with a wonderful

easy going caring lovely to be with nature, I Love to party and so did

he.... we were so close together.

 

The worst of it all is he wanted to come back from Nong Khai just

recently, after being there waiting till I came back to Thailand, I

said ok wait for me as he was starting College in September, after he

lost his Job in Hollywood, when it closed, he use to spend a lot of

time playing Video games, as they do and had no purpose to life, apart

from party when I came and he was so happy, if I was there he

would never be at this Pub visiting his friends, out of boredom and

helping at as door man, as he use to say its not like work, we have a

laugh with friends......... not many farang here.

 

So there you have it, I cant get him back now, so I have to move on

with out him unfortunately, I still have my small family of guys including Mr Pattaya 2002/3 who many

also get him mixed up with Ole, he was helping with all the funeral

Arrangements as Ole Family are beside them self, when you loose some

one so close you never really know how your going to react some one

sent me a picture that was printed in the paper, up side down and he

had turned it around, I thought it was him alive waiting for the

doctor, but when I looked he was dead and rigger mortise set in, and

thats when it really hit me, once again sorry I have not answered all

your many over 70 so far emails and personal messages personally yet,

but I had to send a blanket email as there was far to many.

 

I hope to see you all soon some where, don't be afraid to chat, I

don't really bite, even those on here I have had a disagreement with,

to me its just a debate I never get angry with any one, unless they

tell lies and half truths about me, that hurts my friends and family, but that comes with the territory.

they never want to hear both sides of the story.

 

Thanks once again for your heart felt condolences and I can feel your

love I hope you can feel mine coming back at you all. writing about it

really is helping, I hope you don’t mind me sharing this with you all. Please bare with me it helps a lot to write it down and a problem shared is half a problem.

 

God Bless you all in our funny Gay family, on Patatyya Gay forums.... I love you all really, yes even Catty. and Rainbow. and you GB for being so patient with me.Lately.....

[Guest wowpow]

posted on Sawatdee as you requested.

 

What a harrowing day.

[Guest Khunatm]

Some people write things on message boards that often annoy me, for a while.

 

And sometimes, those same people don't write things on the message boards.

 

I am really just starting to understand.

 

What a day! And now, we have shared it with him.

 

And with respect, it was Mothers day too.

 

Condolences again John, from ALL.

[Guest mauRICE]

LMTU

 

I read on Baht-Stop that this guy was your bf. Please accept my condolences. This sort of gratuitous killing happens all the time in Thailand but rarely makes it to the mainstream English press. It's only because this happened in Pattaya that it was reported by Pattaya's community newspapers.

 

 

 

 

[Guest ear wig]

I hope this is ok, but many people have sent me messages to say if I can give an my email, so they can write a personal message, yes no problem for me try. :-

 

letmetellyu@gmail.com

 

considering the massive amount of messages that have been writen to me, it would be a lot easier to answer as and when I can.

 

The amount of people that have written that I have never heard of, about 1/3 of the 76 messages so far, it is amazing to me, they say they read the sites daily, but do not like to write for fear of the flamers, well I would not worry what people say to you, every one has a different slant on world events and gay life, its all mainly a debate on who thinks differently about any subject, I would say that is healthy. Go on give it a try! you never know you may make many wonderful friends as I have.

 

I would write on gaythailand it is flame proof protected, by the biggest fire wall in Thailand, its name is GB only joking. B)

 

Thank you once again.....

[Gaybutton]

I would write on gaythailand it is flame proof protected, by the biggest fire wall in Thailand, its name is GB only joking.

 

It's not so much of a joke. I consider that to be quite a compliment. I'm just as sorry for the boy, his family, and what you're going through as I can possibly be. This is not the time for people to be doing any flaming. As far as I'm concerned you should feel free to write all you want about this terrible incident on this board. Those who prefer to send E-mail to you for fear of being flamed if they post about it here have no need to worry.

 

Rest assured, if anyone is so incredibly low as to try to flame you for it or flame anyone who desires to express his sympathies, then they'll quickly discover that I intend to live up to that compliment.

 

pax vobiscum

[Smiles]

A tragic occurrence in anyone's books. Both for this young man, and yourself.

 

No one, on this big old (& sometimes cold) world, deserves what happened to him . . . and then, later ~ as heart-busting byproduct ~ what happens to those close to him.

 

Earwig (et al), please take care of yourself.

 

David [smiles]