America's Worst Speed Traps

[TampaYankee]

America's Worst Speed Traps

By Cindy Perman

If you've ever been pulled over for speeding, you know it feels like you're a gazelle that just got taken down by a lion.

And, while this recession, and the gaping budget holes that resulted, have turned most cities into a jungle for motorists, there are some cities that have far more speed traps than others. And automated traffic cams have only egged them on. Now, they can snag just as many motorists for speeding, if not more, with less manpower.

It's hard to get this information from the police or the courts for two reasons: 1) Many tickets are negotiated in court and 2) speed limits, while originally designed to conserve fuel during the energy crisis of the 1970s, have grown into a cash cow for states and municipalities—and they don't want you to know how much they're making off of speeding tickets.

"Speed limits are supposed to be based on factual studies of traffic and what the majority of motorists deem as a safe speed," said Chad Dornsife, director of the Highway Safety Group . "Now, the posted limit has become a revenue generator—not a safety device."

The National Motorists Association, a drivers' rights group, estimates that speeding tickets are a $4.5 to $6 billion industry in America.

To be clear, speeding tickets aren't just for lead foots: In some places, they'll ticket you for going one mile over the speed limit and others set the speed limits artificially low.

"In some places, the average speed limit is set 10 to 15 miles below the actual safe speed for conditions," Dornsife said. "It makes technical violators out of people otherwise driving safely.

10. Los Angeles, California

Speed traps: 151

Los Angeles is a great example of speed limits not matching at all what traffic patterns indicate is a safe speed—which is how they're supposed to be determined.

Most of the speed traps are on the boulevards in the valley, my L.A.-based colleague Jane Wells, who writes the Funny Business blog, says. "The speed limit is 35 but if you actually drove that, you'd get mowed down!" Wells says.

Fines and surcharges for speeding or failing to have proof of insurance can approach $1,400, the NMA reports. And good luck fighting a ticket in L.A. It's always been tough, but with the city teetering on the brink of bankruptcy, motorists don't have a chance.

"If you walk into a courtroom, because of the massive deficits at every level, they can't let a breathing person walk out without taking their money!" Dornsife said.

9. Chicago, Illinois

Speed traps: 153

Chicago now uses red-light cameras to nab motorists for running lights and speeding, which increases the city's ticketing power. And, while, speed limits are supposed to be determined by engineering studies, Dornsife notes that the last study on one red light speed trap here was done in 1994 and the Department of Transportation deemed the safest speed was 43 miles per hour. The posted limit? 30.

Dorsnife notes two problems here: First, some of the traffic-control devices are 20 and 30 years old. And second, on the interstates, local politicians control the speed limits—and the enforcement in the courts. So, good luck fighting a ticket.

Barnet Fagel, aka "The Ticket Doctor," noted one particularly tricky speed trap: Motorists have to drive at a snail's pace leading up to the entrance to Lake Shore Drive, which then opens up into a six-lane highway. A half-mile in is the speed trap, where the speed limit is 40 and police nab drivers just as they're starting to pick up speed. "Comparable divided highways carry higher speed limits by as much as 10 to 20 mph more," he said.

8. Dallas, Texas

Speed traps: 156

Dallas is one of three Texas cities that made the top 10 for speed traps.

"Here's what happens in Texas: We have these safety standards that you have to apply to make sure the speed limit is safe," Dornsife said. "They follow none of them! They have what's called "home rule," which means they don't have to follow federal law."

Dornsife said it's not uncommon here for tickets to be issued for drivers going just a few miles over the speed limit, and they'll do things like set a "school zone" two miles away from the school.

Also, good luck keeping up with fluctuations in the speed limit on a given road. Dornsife recalls being at a DOT speed-limit conference and a presenter from Dallas said there are sections of the freeway where the speed limit can change three to four times within a few miles.

And speed limits can be changed arbitrarily: "Somebody stands up in a city council meeting … say, a police officer with no training in traffic engineering … and proposes a speed-limit change and they vote on it," Dornsife said. "Traffic engineers are supposed to decide what speed is safe—and law enforcement is supposed to enforce it," he said. "Half of these cities don't have traffic engineers."

7. Orlando, Florida

Speed traps: 165

You're less likely to break the speed limit on your daily commute than you are on vacation, where you're in a strange place and don't know the laws or the speed traps, Dornsife says. So, Orlando, home of Disney World and Universal Studios and Sea World, benefits from a steady stream of tourists—and revenue from speeding tickets.

"Orlando definitely has speed traps," said Amy Mariani, a former traffic reporter for Clear Channel Radio. Some of the worst ones, she said, are Colonial Drive (State Route 50), where the speed limit constantly changes, the Beachline (State Route 528) as motorists drive west from the airport (That's right, they get you straight from the airport!) and I-4, especially downtown near the Millenia Mall.

Plus, Dornsife says, Orlando was one of the early adopters for red-light cameras—they were using them even before state laws allowed them to. In the first three months, he says, the cameras here generated 700 tickets.

And, they're tough: One motorist noted on Speedtrap.org that officers on motorcycles often snag motorists in a short school zone for doing three to four miles over the speed limit.

6. Denver, Colorado

Speed traps: 165

Colorado, like Texas, has "home rule," where cities don't have to comply with state laws. As a result, traffic on some roadways indicate 35 to 40 miles per hour is safe and yet the speed limit has been set at 25, or 55 is safe and yet the legal limit has been set at 40.

One Denver driver said that many roadways have been designed far bigger than they need to be, which facilitates higher rates of speed. Then they post low speed limits and BAM! They can snag you for a speeding ticket.

And they're tough: They have speed cameras everywhere, that resident said, and they'll even nail you for going an inch over the line at a light.

Jayson Luber, the traffic reporter for 7News at ABC affiliate KMGH, said officers will even wait for drivers riding in the exit lane who dart back into other lanes at the last minute, and nab them for crossing a white line. He said holiday weekends are the worst but police are out in full force year round.

5. Jacksonville, Florida

Speed traps: 175

Florida takes the prize for the state where motorists are most likely to get a speeding ticket, according to a survey last year by the NMA.

One man told News4Jax.com that he wasn't surprised. "I probably passed 30 cops on the way down here, so they were sitting there waiting to get everybody that's for sure," he said.

Jacksonville, in particular, is known for speed traps where multiple drivers are pulled over at once, often by unmarked police cars, and motorists can be charged for going 5 mph over the limit. And, they get low marks on informing motorists of the speed limits.

"Many of their streets are horribly underposted," Dornsife said of Jacksonville. "Some of the signs they use there aren't even legal devices—they're supposed to be a particular size, format and shape," he said.

4. Colorado Springs, Colorado

Speed traps: 186

Remember, Colorado has "home rule," where municipalities don't have to follow state laws, and Colorado Springs takes full advantage of it.

To their credit, they fully disclose how tough they are: They state publicly that drivers will be penalized if they drive 1-4 miles over the speed limit, 5 to 9 miles over, 10 to 19 miles over, 20 to 39 miles over and 40 or more miles over (Literally, they break it down that far). They also state that "one's intent is irrelevant," which means they don't care if you didn't mean to speed, had a broken speedometer or have oversized tires. These situations are "Not a defense to speeding."

Colorado Springs drivers write on Speedtrap.org that often police use unmarked vehicles. And, like Denver, wide roads are often slapped with a 25 mph limit and entering the city from the southeast, one motorist notes, the speed limit drops quickly from 55 to 25.

3. Las Vegas, Nevada

Speed traps: 187

They say what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas and tourists find out all too soon that applies to speeding tickets as well!

Speed traps are common on the highways heading into and out of Las Vegas, Dornsife said. Department of Transportation records indicate traffic could handle 80 mph but a 70 mph zone is strictly enforced. Even side streets have traffic stops, one motorist noted on Speedtrap.org.

Another motorist said he passed by an officer when he was driving north on US-49 and the officer was going south. Three minutes later, the officer turned around and pulled him over, clocking him doing 59 in a 55 when the driver thought the speed limit was 60. The officer actually wrote him a ticket for 67, saying he'd seen the driver speed up to 67 after passing him by!

Dornsife added that anytime there's a budget crisis, the number of tickets written out seems to go up. And, good luck trying to fight them in court, especially when the city is still struggling financially.

2. Austin, Texas

Speed traps: 189

The second entry from Texas in the top 10 is Austin, which one motorist described as practically a police state. Remember that here, they have "home rule," so municipalities don't have to follow state laws—and it seems they've taken that invitation to go quite seriously off the script.

That motorist said he was ticketed for going three to four miles per hour over the speed limit in a school zone, and when he was going 83 in an 80 mph zone.

There are serious speed traps at the northern and southern city limits, motorists note on Speedtrap.org, with many noting that everyone they know seems to have a couple of tickets. One woman wrote that she received a ticket and took a driver's education course to eliminate it. A clerk called her a year later and said the ticket was now a warrant and the fine had been increased. Luckily, she had her paperwork to prove it had been eliminated. She also noted that she'd seen three cars pulled over at once.

1. Houston, Texas

Speed traps: 373

And the winning city is from … Texas!

Seriously, the speed traps in Texas are so bad, Dornsife said, "any place in Texas could be No. 1."

Drivers note on Speedtrap.org that there are traps set at the Houston city limits and near attractions like the Astrodome. And, the speed limit can change rapidly and dramatically. One motorist wrote that entering the city on Highway 59 North, the speed limit dropped suddenly to 55 from 70. Just as the motorist noticed the speed-limit change on his GPS, BAM! There was a speed trap.

The number of tickets was even more staggering when the economy was bad: In March of last year, KTRK Channel 13 found that Houston police officers wrote about 3,000 tickets per day, or 147 an hour!

TrafficTicketSecrets.com says the average speeding ticket in the U.S. is about $150. Multiply that out and that's $450,000 a day—and $14 million for the month.

See the original article at:

http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/1728/americas-worst-speed-traps/

[ihpguy]

As an ex-Chicagoan, you cannot beat a ticket that you get in the mail. The cameras they have with the time lapse photography. WOW!!!! You might not even realize you did anything wrong, let alone speed. And make sure you never lend your car to anyone. Those cameras at the intersection bill the car owners, not the driver. And the article only mentions speed traps. Chicago has sold its street parking to a private firm and the rates have gone sky high.

Crazy. Crazy.

Thanks to me for now living where there are no private cars and the real estate taxes are minimal.

[RA1]

Where has this gal been all this time? There have been speed traps whose primary aim was revenue as long as I can remember (Henry and I used to race). True this reputation was largely in small towns but with the advent of radar, "mobile" speed traps had come to the big city. No longer was it necessary for a squad car to "clock" or match the speed of another car while both were on the move. A car with radar could be set up most anywhere, stop a half dozen speeders and be miles away doing the same thing in a very few minutes.

I am not a fan of being technologically "spied" upon but, in a way, those devices are fairer than a cop with a radar gun. They are capable of generating tickets for each and every speeder (or traffic signal red light runner)with no allowance for friends, neighbors, pretty girls or pretty boys, etc.

As the article suggests, the "leadership" of various communities may or may not be responsive to where such devices need to be placed and for fair speed limits (and fair traffic signal changing rates)to be extant. However, they should respond to "popular" complaint. One has to complain, frequently and often, however.

Best regards,

RA1

[AdamSmith]

All good points above. One observation about an additional tactic (not based on scientific survey, just 30 years' personal experience): Massachusetts patrols tend to be fairly liberal about speeders, except for a number of well known speed traps. But Connecticut takes advantage of this, in being much more strict in the first place, then in the second place putting patrolmen with radar guns at just about every significant road crossing between the two states. You really have to remember to slam the brakes as you approach the border when traveling southbound.

[Guest CharliePS]

An 80 year old woman friend of mine, a careful driver, has notified the Arizona tourism dept. that she will no longer vacation there, because of the camera traps everywhere. Every time she drives there, she gets a ticket in the mail a couple of weeks later, claiming she was caught on camera exceeding the limit. The tickets are fairly expensive, in the $250 range, and one has to go back to Arizona to contest them.

[TampaYankee]

An 80 year old woman friend of mine, a careful driver, has notified the Arizona tourism dept. that she will no longer vacation there, because of the camera traps everywhere. Every time she drives there, she gets a ticket in the mail a couple of weeks later, claiming she was caught on camera exceeding the limit. The tickets are fairly expensive, in the $250 range, and one has to go back to Arizona to contest them.

Good for her. I'd do the same.

I'm against Big Brother Law Enforcement techniques. I have no desire to live in a constantly surveiled society and using a police substate to collect public revenues.

I'm all for safety enforcement but have no truck for revenue enhancement through abuse of traffice law enforcement. Laws should be enforced by people and patrol cars showing the colors on the roads. That does muxh more to inhibit unsafe practices than surreptitous photographs of scofflaws with tickets that appear weeks later in the mail. That is strictly a revenue generator and it may dissuade one scofflaw. However it does not provide the multiplier effect that a flashing light and citation service has on tens or hundreds of drivers passing a traffic stop.

This practice will stop only if citizens complain about it vehemently and in number. However, most people are sheep feeling that they can do nothing as an individual.