Guest wowpow Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 I had it confirmed by the View Talay Sales office that work on View Talay 7 will re-commence tomorrow 2nd August. Seemingly the situation is not simple. I gather from friends that the Administration court's decision was: 1) View Talay 7 may proceed with building to a maximum of 14 meters high. 2) The decision of where "the sea" is has been set at high tide plus ( further out to sea) 15 meters. 3) The proposal for the position from where the sea is to be measured will go to another court and hopefully a decision will be reached in about a week. 4) Once the sea position is clarified the decision on whether the planning permission for 22 stories is legal or not. What a saga ? Quote
Guest Posted August 1, 2007 Posted August 1, 2007 As always, an interesting read. So, what does all that mean? Quote
Bob Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 The height of the building dictates (among other things) the strength of the foundation and stength (size) of the vertical steel columns. Nobody is dumb enough to spend the money for a foundation or steel columns fit for a 22-story building unless they are sure the building will be 22-stories high (otherwise, the cost of a lesser number of condo units would be astronomical). Given that, if they continue with construction, they know exactly how high the building will be (which would mean, of course, that the deal has already been greased in the backroom). Rich people and banks wouldn't and couldn't gamble on whether they can add 18 more stories. Too much money at stake. Simple as that. Quote
Guest travelerjim Posted August 2, 2007 Posted August 2, 2007 STOPPED....Bangkok Court upholds Rayong Court ruling... The Bangkok Administrative Court has UPHELD the earlier ruling of the Rayong Court... according to Bangkok Post of August 2nd... http://www.bangkokpost.com/Business/02Aug2007_biz99.php . PROPERTY / JOMTIEN COMPLEX Pattaya high-rise protesters win court battle Residents of the Jomthien Complex Condotel have won a case at the Bangkok Supreme Administrative Court affirming their request for a temporary halt to the construction of a high-rise condominium on Jomthien beach in Pattaya. The court upheld the decision of the Administrative Court in Rayong in a dispute that centred on the construction of the 1.15-billion-baht View Talay Jomthien Project 7, which would rise 27 storeys or about 81 metres. The final hearing on whether the project could proceed in its present form is scheduled to be held in the Rayong Court next Wednesday. The dispute centres on whether a project of the height in question could be constructed at the location, as the 10 plaintiffs argued that buildings cannot exceed 14 metres in height on the site because it is less than 200 metres from the mean sea level. View Talay Jomthien Condominium (1999) Co Ltd, the project's developer, explained to the Supreme Administrative Court that halting construction would cause damages of about 500 million baht to the company. When the court in Rayong issued its injunction to halt the construction in April, the company had already invested about 100 million baht in the project, which is scheduled to be complete in 2009. Therefore, the company appealed the decision of the Rayong court and asked to continue with the construction. Richard Haines, one of the plaintiffs, said the Supreme Administration Court's decision upheld the Interior Ministry's regulation No. 9, announced in 1978, which allows only buildings of no more than 14 metres high to be built in areas 200 metres from the mean sea level. ''View Talay started its 27-storey building at 100 metres from the mean sea level, so the project is 100 metres too close to the shoreline,'' he said. Quote
Guest wowpow Posted August 10, 2007 Posted August 10, 2007 Traveller Jim writes on Sawatdee: "Post View Talay 7 still undecided by courts August 8th Here we go again... View Talay 7 still undecided in courts... Here is latest per posting on website: http://stopvt7.blogspot.com/ Wednesday, August 8, 2007 August 8 Admin Court hearing in Rayon has not concluded our case Pattaya City hall and VT7 could not agree with Department of Civil Engineering and City Planning from Bangkok explanation of issue 9. They keep confusing how to measure from MSL. The Bangkok man could not answer any of the judge’s questions which were not written in his office letter. This left unanswered questions. The court is going to order the Thai Port Authority and the Bangkok Department of Civil Engineering and City Planning to take measurement and make a map for the court. The map will show where VT7 building is located as to issue 9 alignment. The stopvt7 group is going to hire an expert to watch over the taking of measurement and making of the map. VT7 can keep working but not build over 14 meters high. Their will be another court hearing. My understanding about the Bangkok letter form Department of Civil Engineering and City Planning explains the following? 1. The distance of 100 meters in Issue 8 and the distance of 200 meters Issue are not the same alignment. 2. The alignment of Issue 8 had not specified the measurement be taken at MSL. 3. Issue 9 specified that the measurement of the alignment of the cost line be taken only at MSL (mean sea level). This setting a 200 meters measured from MSL for alignment. -------------------------- The saga continues... TJ on Sawatdee" I don't understand the explanation but, like all, will wait and see how the saga unfolds. Quote