Guest Conway Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 It always amazes me when the right wingers spin things to avoid responsibility. They have been egging people on to shoot someone for some time now, but don't want to take the responsibility when it happens. Put 'em in the crosshairs apparently means whatever the Repubs want it to mean until it actually takesw on its real meaning. Right wingers? You should flip on a television or read a newspaper from time to time. It wasn't right wingers who were calling for censorship of talk radio and TV hours (whihc the left immediately blamed) after this tragedy. It was the dumber than a handjob American left mainstream media. It was CNN. It was the three major networks. It was MSNBC. It was the new York Times. The fact that you even make such a ridiculous "crosshairs" argument makes it hard to take pretty much anything you say seriously. Of course, if you want to make that argument, there is the story of the Democratic Congressman who claimed that a candidate for governor n Florida should be shot. I don't see any of you blaming him though. I believe that he was just practicing rhetoric. The problem with the American left for the past 20 years or so is that it has become far more opinionated than it is informed. Quote
Guest Conway Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Loughner's fixation on alleged government conspiracies to control the citizens is a regular concern of the far right, not the left. His ideas about currency come from the right wing opponents of the Federal Reserve, his idea that we are being a controlled by a "second Constitution" made up of post-Civil War amendments is promoted by white supremacists, and the grammar conspiracy idea comes from a right wing nutcase named David Wynn Miller. The fact that he also likes the Communist Manifesto, marijuana and punk rock isn't enough to make him left or right of anyone. What it makes him is a very confused young man. Giffords seems to be considered relatively centrist, rather than extremist, by her colleagues in both parties. That only supports the position that neither talk radio nor TV political pundits had anythiong to do with this. The real issue is not what drove Loughner. He's obviously imbalanced. The real question is why was the American left so willing to throw the first amendment on the back of a truck and haul it out of our society before anyone even understood the details of what happened. I'll tell you why- because they lapdog mainstream media has lost control of how the left's message is delivered to the public. And they don't like that fact. That is far more scary than some crazed gunman taking out a Congresswoman. Quote
Guest CharliePS Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 That only supports the position that neither talk radio nor TV political pundits had anythiong to do with this. The real issue is not what drove Loughner. He's obviously imbalanced. The real question is why was the American left so willing to throw the first amendment on the back of a truck and haul it out of our society before anyone even understood the details of what happened. I'll tell you why- because they lapdog mainstream media has lost control of how the left's message is delivered to the public. And they don't like that fact. That is far more scary than some crazed gunman taking out a Congresswoman. As I said before, I happen to agree with you about the kneejerk reaction by much of the media. My comments were about YOUR equally hasty claim, with little evidence, that Loughner was a leftist. Quote