Members Lucky Posted November 19, 2010 Members Posted November 19, 2010 When did genitals become junk? I thought they were a particularly valued part of the body. So valued, in fact, that TSA agents can no longer retrain themselves and must touch everybody's "junk." I don't often agree with Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer...no relation to jackhammer...but his column today sums up all the absurdities we are now faced with at the airport: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/18/AR2010111804494.html?hpid=topnews Quote
Members RA1 Posted November 19, 2010 Members Posted November 19, 2010 My "private parts" are not junk, at least to me but I have to whole heartedly agree with CK's column. We have been abused and mistreated far too long when "proper" profiling will indeed work. Sorry but that might be PIC to some. So be it. Best regards, RA1 Quote
Members Lucky Posted November 20, 2010 Author Members Posted November 20, 2010 FINALLY! It happened! RA1 and I agree on something. I, too, favor profiling. Why should all these people be searched just to uphold a pretense that we don't think it's the Muslims doing all the terrorists stuff. Search the Muslims, grab their junk, drop those burkas. Yes, really, I mean it. Why should some gramma be humiliated when she has no idea even how to be a terrorist. Why should pilots get searched when they can just crash the plane if they choose to. Quote
Members RA1 Posted November 20, 2010 Members Posted November 20, 2010 It wasn't that difficult or traumatic, was it? Best regards, RA1 Quote
Guest FourAces Posted November 20, 2010 Posted November 20, 2010 Why should pilots get searched when they can just crash the plane if they choose to. Lucky I believe as of tomorrow pilots will no longer have to worry about their junk being touched The TSA and whoever came to an agreement that they simply will cross check pilots with flights before letting them through security. Our so called airport security is one of the biggest wool of our eyes stunt the government has pulled on us. Prior to 9-11 the system would hav worked had the security agents simply done their job. Instead we see tape of the hijackers walking through security area without effort. I have no issues with banning certain items from planes such as lighters knives and so forth. But to put us through body scans, junk touching and strip searches is absolutely absurd. Even returning to this country has become a joke. If I recall properly OZ was returning from a overseas trip a few years ago and had his laptops taken from him for a period of time. The government then returned them with spyware. As if his laptops were bringing into the country some type of terrorist plot. People are lulled into a sense of total false security by the TSA shenanigans. Its time people wake up and demand some fucking respect. "You touch my junk and I'll have you arrested" That guys is my hero btw Here is a pic of John Tyner I DO wanna touch his junk Also Johnny has a blog johnnyedge.blogspot.com Quote
Guest FourAces Posted November 20, 2010 Posted November 20, 2010 Great video about the body scanners and a look at who is making lots of money. Think back to the Bush admin Quote
Guest zipperzone Posted November 20, 2010 Posted November 20, 2010 Depending on who is doing the "invasive" pat-down, perhaps I wouldn't mind getting my junk touched. Can we select our toucher? Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted November 20, 2010 Posted November 20, 2010 The problem with profiling is that Al Quada is one step ahead of the game on that one and is already actively seeking western looking converts. And, given the size of humanity and humanity's capacity for stupidity they'll find some and use them on the next go round. Remember, Al Quada shares a lot of common ground with many of the American militia movements and it was white people who did the Oklahoma City bombing. There is a lot of anti-government sentiment in the US, the UK and France at the moment and all they have to do to get an operation going is find four or five men or women from any of those anti-government factions, which, over time, would not be particular difficult. Quote
Members RA1 Posted November 20, 2010 Members Posted November 20, 2010 I would like to hope that a US citizen with anti-government sentiment would not easily be a willing dupe for very criminal and terrorist activities, such as carrying a bomb on their person which will kill them first and then some around them. I realize we had a couple during the OKC tragedy but just how representative of the general population were those guys? Not very I am thinking. I have a lot of anti-government sentiment which I am sure some of you have noticed but when cut I bleed red, white and blue. In addition to be patriotic I also tend to be law abiding. I simply consider it one of my duties to complain about public policy that seems counterproductive. I have been pointing fingers at the TSA for years and just now they take notice that pilots do not need weapons to bring down a plane. At this rate of comprehension, none of us will live long enough to see any sweet light of reason from these folks, to include the feds at large. Best regards, RA1 Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted November 20, 2010 Posted November 20, 2010 Think how big the American population is and exactly how powerful the lure of religion can be. Remember, it takes a very, very small number of people to pull these things off. To put it into perspective - there are enough Americans dumb enough to fall for the Nigerian spam thing for it to be worthwhile for people to continue to send out those emails. Then, consider how many people get sucked into Scientology and how many people were sucked into the Jim Jones suicide cult or the fact that Manson was able to get followers to kill for him. So, yeah, I believe that out of 300 million people you could find four or five low self esteem converts if you had enough time. Quote
Members RA1 Posted November 20, 2010 Members Posted November 20, 2010 I agree that there are very likely a few who will do most any thing. Would you be willing to believe that most, no such thing as all, of those could be profiled? While we are worrying, what do you think of MS. Napolitano's assertion that monitoring all cargo would be too difficult? "Cargo comes in all sizes and shapes, while humans are mostly the same." As we can easily see from the events of the past several days, it does not take a US citizen, disgruntled or otherwise, to send explosives via cargo. Best regards, RA1 Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted November 20, 2010 Posted November 20, 2010 Politicians saying stupid things doesn't change the fact that Al Quada is trying to recruit white, western looking suicide bombers. Quote
Members RA1 Posted November 20, 2010 Members Posted November 20, 2010 What do you think has "prevented" or allowed the US to escape terrorism since 911? If you say the TSA or HSA, I will say, buzz. If you say luck + informants + most US citizens (to include most visitors who have no desire to participate in terrorism), I will say, ding, ding, ding. I have said this before and, sorry to bore some of you, but passengers need to take responsibility for combating terrorists, if necessary, during flight. Profiling + minimal metal detection (conducted with a modicum of decorum, if not fellowship)+ informants should do most of what we need doing or so I think. This would be part of the "new, all vounteer" army; the army of citizenry against terrorism. Now, we are mostly leaving it up to "others", mostly meaning the feds who have taken things a lot too far. Are you careful when you drive? Do you take into account what fool drivers might do to you or others nearby? Most folks do. This is little different. Cars are very lethal weapons used incorrectly. Life is full of "modern" ways to kill, maim or injure one another. Shouldn't we all take as much responsibility as we are physically and mentally able to do so? Best regards, RA1 Quote
Members Lucky Posted November 21, 2010 Author Members Posted November 21, 2010 George Will in today's Washington Post: What the TSA is doing is mostly security theater, a pageant to reassure passengers that flying is safe. Reassurance is necessary if commerce is going to flourish and if we are going to get to grandma's house on Thursday to give thanks for the Pilgrims and for freedom. If grandma is coming to our house, she may be wanded while barefoot at the airport because democracy - or the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment; anyway, something - requires the amiable nonsense of pretending that no one has the foggiest idea what an actual potential terrorist might look like. Quote