Members TampaYankee Posted October 29, 2010 Members Share Posted October 29, 2010 Best Cities to Move to in America Provided by: By Cindy Perman, CNBC.com Oct 27, 2010 What people are looking for when they relocate changes from time to time. In the 90s, it was a city with low crime. Then, it was places with good schools. "These days, you want a job and to make sure you can get a house there," said Bert Sperling of BestPlaces.net, which helps people find the best places to live, work or retire. Sperling crunched the numbers to find the 10 best cities to relocate to today. The list takes into consideration all kinds of data points from cost of living to crime rates, the number of colleges and how healthy the population is, as well as access to museums, shows, sporting and other events. Plus, one you might not think of - stability. "We're a big believer in the concept of stability, where there is modest, controllable growth," Sperling explained. "Big booms lead to disruption, and ultimately big busts. Neither is good for livability." Here are Sperling's Best Cities to Relocate to in America - Why they're the best and who's hiring there. 1. Pittsburgh, PA 2. Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY 3. Omaha, NE/Council Bluffs, IA 4. Fort Worth-Arlington, Texas 5. Austin-Round Rock, TX 6. Des Moines-West Des Moines, IA 7. Madison, WI 8. Minneapolis-St. Paul-Bloomington, MN 9. Denver-Aurora, CO 10. Indianapolis-Carmel, IN For all the whys and wherefores see the original article at: http://realestate.yahoo.com/promo/best-cities-to-move-to-in-america.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TampaYankee Posted October 29, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 29, 2010 I have no desire to move to any of these cities, now or in the future. Not my cups of tea. I'm pretty amazed that these are the 'ten best'. Definitely a middle America slant to the livability concerns. I've been to Buffalo, Austin, and Minneapolis. I have also been to Colorado Springs 80 miles south of Denver as well as the Denver airport. I've been to Muncie but not Indianappolis. The others I have no experience with. Of all these cities I did find Austin a nice town in the seventies. It truly is an oasis in an otherwise lackluster environment IMO. Still much too hot for human habitation. Did a business trip to Minneapolis in the summer -- 98 degrees. Big middle America city -- not bad but not much excitement either. Hot in the summer cold in the winter. Not a Goldilocks city. What I remember most about Buffalo was miles and miles and miles of high power lines -- surprise, surprise. That and a lot of rundown buildings. It wasn't much better toward Niagra Falls until you went on the Canadian side, then a nice clean 'middle Canadian' city. Not much excitement on either side of the border. I was all set to like Colorado but The Springs is a little wacko and I suspect Denver has its share of em too. Maybe it is the thin air. Also, at that time, Denver had a very poor escort scene for a big city. A little too barren of big city accoutrements for a big city -- my impression. Also, it is so far from everywhere. I'd love to visit the Unicorn Club in Indianapolis but not enough to move there. I'm not into agriculture or the agricultural machine industry. Another middle America city for quiet comfy living but not much excitement. These observations are all dated to very dated, as I am. So they may bear little relationship to today, except I doubt the weather has changed much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zipperzone Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 If I was interested in which city was the best to move to, I'd want to see a survey that included the degree of "gay friendliness". That would be my # 1 consideration. What may be idyllic to some could be a hotbed of homophobia. I very much doubt if that was taken into account on the survey you posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conway Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 I did a six month consulting gig in Denver a little over a year or so ago. I really liked it. Though, the gay scene was a bit subdued, I found it to be a quite faggy place. To hell with escorts, the boys in my gym were ready willing and able to hook up with daddy..sometimes for a fee, sometimes for free. As for the rest of the list--meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FourAces Posted October 29, 2010 Share Posted October 29, 2010 In the past two months I've been to Omaha and Denver. Denver is a very nice city but not my style. Everyone seems so healthy Omaha was a interesting place, kind of an old looking city but nice. While Denver seemed alive Omaha appeared a bit sleepy, or maybe I was sleepy I've been to Austin several times and its a very nice place. I think its pretty gay friendly very funky and as the T-shirts say the, Keep Austin Weird, sentiment is working. If I was not happy in Dallas I would consider moving to Austin. None of the other places on the list hold much interest for me. When I look around the country and think about what my dream city to live in at this point would be Dallas remains near the top of the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TampaYankee Posted October 30, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 30, 2010 To hell with escorts, the boys in my gym were ready willing and able to hook up with daddy..sometimes for a fee, sometimes for free. You obviously fare better in light than I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RA1 Posted October 30, 2010 Members Share Posted October 30, 2010 I am a little surprised that PIT is #1 on this list. It is very much a union town with heavy industry, hence the name of the NFL team, Steelers. Glad it apparently has not joined the "rust belt" as so many towns in this latitude have. Many of these cities are pretty far north in the US and currently have cold winters. That may change with global warming but I will not live long enough for that to matter. Therefore, nice places to visit, but I don't wish to live there. The other couple of places are further south and have reasonable weather. Some do not like the "hot" summers but that is a matter of getting used to it and availing oneself of air-conditioning. How many of you are going to "dig ditches" where you live? I thought not many. So, just adjust to the ambient weather, stay indoors during the "hot" days and enjoy the rest. Best regards, RA1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conway Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 You obviously fare better in light than I. "Nice guy" gets them out for drinks. "tequila" makes me better looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xenophile Posted October 30, 2010 Members Share Posted October 30, 2010 To hell with escorts, the boys in my gym were ready willing and able to hook up with daddy..sometimes for a fee, sometimes for free. How do you approach a pay to play offer with fellow gym members? I've done it, with some success with random cruising cuties in the mall and other cruisy areas by handing them a (blank) business card where I'd handwritten my # and something like "Intere$ted in activitie$$$ with you, please call..." Don't know if I would have the balls to make the offer verbally though. Would love to hear about guys who have success with this method! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conway Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 How do you approach a pay to play offer with fellow gym members? I've done it, with some success with random cruising cuties in the mall and other cruisy areas by handing them a (blank) business card where I'd handwritten my # and something like "Intere$ted in activitie$$$ with you, please call..." Don't know if I would have the balls to make the offer verbally though. Would love to hear about guys who have success with this method! My approach is generally more long term rather than transactional. I'm friendly at first. Partner up with them for a few lifting sessions. Let them get to know me on a very non-threatening basis. Make them laugh. I'm pretty masculine in my actions in general. So, then you drop an opportunity in front of them-- "What are you doing this weekend? Why don't you drop by Sunday. We'll watch some football, drink some beers and throw some steaks on the grill." Any struggling college kid that has a remote interest will respond to that. You give them a few drinks. Let them sample your excellent grown up weed. Usually, if they expect to be paid, they'll say so as you make your move (or between bong hits!). Some wait until after the fact. Lots of these guys are in that experimental stage. They're horny and they just want to get off. The beer and dope lower their natural defenses. Some surprise you. I was headed home from a bar after having a few drinks with a smoking former college athlete one night when he just blurts out, "Have you ever hooked up with a guy before?" BINGO! I still saty in touch with that guy once or twice a year. He has 4 kids, a better job than mine and a lovely wife who he knows I would never cross the line with. Besides giving them the best head of their young lives, I say goodbye with, "Anytime you want that again, just give me a call. The ball is in your court". Leave them alone and they usually pop back up a couple of weeks later. When they find the girl of their dreams, you never see them again. That's ok, if you aren't looking for a boyfriend. My advice: be patient, don't have grand expectations, and let it run its own course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TampaYankee Posted October 31, 2010 Author Members Share Posted October 31, 2010 My approach is generally more long term rather than transactional. I'm friendly at first. Partner up with them for a few lifting sessions. Let them get to know me on a very non-threatening basis. Make them laugh. I'm pretty masculine in my actions in general. So, then you drop an opportunity in front of them-- ... Besides giving them the best head of their young lives, I say goodbye with, "Anytime you want that again, just give me a call. The ball is in your court". Leave them alone and they usually pop back up a couple of weeks later. When they find the girl of their dreams, you never see them again. That's ok, if you aren't looking for a boyfriend. My advice: be patient, don't have grand expectations, and let it run its own course. A real Don Juan... Conway, this puts you in a whole different light inside my head. I take my hat off to you. You are an inspiration for many... Wish I had seen this post 15 years ago. It would have inspired me too and motivated me to explore much earlier. My choice for Post of the Week... hell of the Month, maybe longer term if I could only remember further back, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Conway Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 A real Don Juan... Conway, this puts you in a whole different light inside my head. I take my hat off to you. You are an inspiration for many... Wish I had seen this post 15 years ago. It would have inspired me too and motivated me to explore much earlier. My choice for Post of the Week... hell of the Month, maybe longer term if I could only remember further back, Believe me. I wasn't born knowing this. It was the result of trial and error mastered mostly while living in New York in my 20s and 30s. Also, I had a few good teachers when I was on the receiving end of older mens' attention at Uncle Charlie's in the Village. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeedSome Posted November 2, 2010 Share Posted November 2, 2010 Wow - Conway you are my hero. I would never try to actually approach someone in a gym and pick them up as a hire. I have, though, removed my towel and started playing with myself in the sauna. And at my gym, that's really all the invitation most guys need. My approach is generally more long term rather than transactional. I'm friendly at first. Partner up with them for a few lifting sessions. Let them get to know me on a very non-threatening basis. Make them laugh. I'm pretty masculine in my actions in general. So, then you drop an opportunity in front of them-- "What are you doing this weekend? Why don't you drop by Sunday. We'll watch some football, drink some beers and throw some steaks on the grill." Any struggling college kid that has a remote interest will respond to that. You give them a few drinks. Let them sample your excellent grown up weed. Usually, if they expect to be paid, they'll say so as you make your move (or between bong hits!). Some wait until after the fact. Lots of these guys are in that experimental stage. They're horny and they just want to get off. The beer and dope lower their natural defenses. Some surprise you. I was headed home from a bar after having a few drinks with a smoking former college athlete one night when he just blurts out, "Have you ever hooked up with a guy before?" BINGO! I still saty in touch with that guy once or twice a year. He has 4 kids, a better job than mine and a lovely wife who he knows I would never cross the line with. Besides giving them the best head of their young lives, I say goodbye with, "Anytime you want that again, just give me a call. The ball is in your court". Leave them alone and they usually pop back up a couple of weeks later. When they find the girl of their dreams, you never see them again. That's ok, if you aren't looking for a boyfriend. My advice: be patient, don't have grand expectations, and let it run its own course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
