TotallyOz Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 I travel quite a bit and am always fascinated with the amount of money that local boys make per hour. It differs greatly around the world. If you use a Big Mac Meal as a base of calculations, I find some interesting numbers. In NYC, the average cost of a Big Mac meal is around 6 dollars. The cost of an average escort in NYC is 40 Big Mac meals. The average tip is around 9 Big Mac Meals. In Brazil, the cost of a Big Mac meal is 13.50R. The cost for an hour (short time) for a sauna boy is 3.5 Big Mac Meals. The average tip is around 1 Big Mac Meal (if he is lucky). I do normally tip most boys a few Big Mac meals no matter where I am. The result of the money they receive is the same no matter when they live. Sorry to bore you all with my Big Mac facts. Please feel free to dispute the numbers. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 You just wanted a chance to talk about your Big Mack. I'm jealous, because I'm only sporting a Quarter Pounder. Quote
Members xenophile Posted October 28, 2010 Members Posted October 28, 2010 I travel quite a bit and am always fascinated with the amount of money that local boys make per hour. It differs greatly around the world. If you use a Big Mac Meal as a base of calculations, I find some interesting numbers. In NYC, the average cost of a Big Mac meal is around 6 dollars. The cost of an average escort in NYC is 40 Big Mac meals. The average tip is around 9 Big Mac Meals. In Brazil, the cost of a Big Mac meal is 13.50R. The cost for an hour (short time) for a sauna boy is 3.5 Big Mac Meals. The average tip is around 1 Big Mac Meal (if he is lucky). I do normally tip most boys a few Big Mac meals no matter where I am. The result of the money they receive is the same no matter when they live. Not boring at all, very interesting topic! I don't travel nearly enough and I'm likewise fascinated by regional rates. Legality, availability, competition and cost of living all factor in but there doesn't seem to be any direct correlation (or predictability...) Damn, so only $50/hour? Do you get full service in the saunas? Any BFE? How about taking a rentboy to one of those "sex motels", similar price / activities? I'm not so sure I'm a good fit for Brazil, I totally prefer a "full spectrum" encounter, I don't much like those "blow and go" sauna sessions I've found elsewhere. Europe worked out quite well for me, Canada has been my favorite rentboy country though, maybe I was just lucky but the selection was incredible, the guys reasonably priced and completely accommodating. That's what legality and competition will do for you. What's your favorite rentboy country, if you don't mind me asking? I'm still considering travel options for next year. Quote
Guest lurkerspeaks Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 I thought I would chime in with my limited experience...GO TO BRAZIL...... In Rio saunas, you get approx 45minutes to an hour at the rate of approx R60, which is about $35 US currency.. For that, you get basically whatever you and your "boy" agree upon. It can be a session of hard pounding, or it can be a soft, gentle, romantic time. One thing about Brazilian guys (from my experience) is that kissing is almost always a given.. They are very passionate people,and even those who are total tops will be very much into kissing. My understanding is the going rate for overnites would be R100-R150, which would be $60-$90 US dollars...And that will usually be from about 10pm, until 10am, give or take My travel friend gives me a hard time because when we are in Montreal, I always try to compare what I am getting to what I would get in Rio...ie two backroom dances in montreal, (which is about 8 minutes of touching, and maybe a little oral) costs the same as a programma in the Rio Saunas of full sex. When I find a Montreal dancer that I like and end up doing 5 or 6 songs (totaling 20 minutes or so), I could have had an overnite in Rio... Quote
Members xenophile Posted October 28, 2010 Members Posted October 28, 2010 I thought I would chime in with my limited experience...GO TO BRAZIL...... In Rio saunas, you get approx 45minutes to an hour at the rate of approx R60, which is about $35 US currency.. For that, you get basically whatever you and your "boy" agree upon. It can be a session of hard pounding, or it can be a soft, gentle, romantic time. One thing about Brazilian guys (from my experience) is that kissing is almost always a given.. They are very passionate people,and even those who are total tops will be very much into kissing. My understanding is the going rate for overnites would be R100-R150, which would be $60-$90 US dollars...And that will usually be from about 10pm, until 10am, give or take My travel friend gives me a hard time because when we are in Montreal, I always try to compare what I am getting to what I would get in Rio...ie two backroom dances in montreal, (which is about 8 minutes of touching, and maybe a little oral) costs the same as a programma in the Rio Saunas of full sex. When I find a Montreal dancer that I like and end up doing 5 or 6 songs (totaling 20 minutes or so), I could have had an overnite in Rio... Sounds pretty awesome especially the always kissing part, thanks for the details! Kind of like a rentboy utopia. Do the guys generally speak English or do you need a translator/guide? So January is mid-summer there, is that a good time to go or what do you consider the best time of year to visit? You always go for saunas rather than "sex motels" just because it's more economical or for other reasons? Are the rooms tiny and are they decent enough for an overnight? The lap dancing habit gets pretty expensive in Canada (& most other places), I'd rather we quickly retire to my room and get on to the good stuff. Quote
Guest lurkerspeaks Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Rio saunas are not 24 hour establishments.. The rooms there are for "short time" sessions of an hour or so.. I do not personally have any experience with the "love motels", but my understanding is that they are more for short time encounters as well. In Rio, all visitors to hotels must register at the front desk, showing thier Government issued ID..The general consensus is that it is ok to bring a sauna boy back to your hotel because he works at the sauna. .They have records of him as well as the front desk of your hotel. The boys will not want to risk a good thing working at the saunas by causing trouble with clients..That being said, I still would not bring a sauna boy back to my hotel and leave him alone in the room or leave any type of valuables out in the open. Remove all temptation.. The rooms at the saunas can vary from location to location.. They are usually what I would compare to the various sized rooms available at most bathhouses. Some are very spartan with nothing but a small bed and tv showing porn. Others might have mirrored walls, private bathroom, etc...Several saunas even have various types to choose from.. The vast majority of the boys in the saunas speak little to no english.. I speak no portuguese, although I do have a pretty good grasp of Spanish. I was lucky enough to have my travel friend with me when I went and he had been to Rio several times before, plus he spoke a little bit of Portuguese. That being said, I would definitely recommend a guide for your first time visit if you have no experience, if that is a viable option for you... But, it can be done successfully by yourself if you do your homework...ie read all you can here, at Daddys, and at Gaytravelbrazil. One good thing to remember is that while numbers may sound different there, they are writen the same way, so it is always good to write down or "draw" the amount you want to pay so there is no confusion.. Time of year.. remember that Rio is on the ocean, so summer will be very hot and sticky..My two visits have both been in November, which is their late spring..Nice warm weather, but not as hot as it will get within a few months.. One thing to remember about "getting on to the good stuff" in the saunas, most if not all of the boys (or at least the "good" ones) will sit with you in the saunas lounge area, chatting, kissing, and offering a "peek" or two or three of the goods..so where in Montreal you get a preview of the boys while they perform on stage, in Rio you get your preview in the lounge, usually with as much interaction there as the first one or two private dances in Montreal.. Hope this helps.. if you have any more questions, feel free to post here or pvt me, and I will answer all I can. Of course if you post publicly, you can hopefully get input for the unofficial ambassador to Rio, Tomcal... Quote
Members OneFinger Posted October 29, 2010 Members Posted October 29, 2010 If you use a Big Mac Meal as a base of calculations... Please feel free to dispute the numbers. I'm not disputing the numbers and I find it very interesting. But, what happens if you compare it to a Happy Meal?? Some of my guys don't have a BIG Mac. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 I've decided I'm going to think of everything in terms of beer prices now. For example at my local pub it costs six euros a pint. My rent is 600 euros a month - 100 pints!!! Quote
Members RA1 Posted October 30, 2010 Members Posted October 30, 2010 BBB- I like your thinking but not necessarily your math. I am hoping that you are not paying $8.37 USD for a pint of beer. $837 for your rent would depend upon many things. Having a $2 drink right now in your honor. Best regards, RA1 Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 Five or six euros is pretty standard for a pint of beer in Southern France. I actually pay less than that overall because the bar owner is a good friend of mine and I do some marketing work for the bar and/or help him bust heads whenever an 18 or 19 year old dude thinks that sticking his hand down the blouse of a random girl he's just met is a proper courting method. So, on a lot of nights he gives me the "staff rate" of four euros a pint and/or four 33 ounce Carlsbergs for 12 euros, (as opposed to the regular price of 4.5 euros per Carlsberg.) My one bedroom apartment is 60 square meters in the best neighborhood in town. Quote
Members RA1 Posted October 31, 2010 Members Posted October 31, 2010 Thanks for the clarification. In the US, 33+ liquid ounces is a liter which we all know is just slightly more than a US quart. Therefore I like your price of about $6 USD for a quart a lot better than $8 for a pint (before the staff discount). I also realize that in many places a pint is a generic term for a glass of beer. My $2 glass of Canadian whiskey + Diet Coke may be cheaper but the company at the bar may be better. Best regards, RA1 Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 In France if you order a pint they legally have to give you a minimum of 50 centiliters (roughly 16 ounces) of beer. There is actually a line on the glass showing where the 50 cl mark it, although most bars fill the glass up somewhat higher than the 50 cl mark. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 I also should have said four 33 centiliter bottles of Carlsburg, not 33 ounce! Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 So, yeah it is expensive compared to what you are used to. Where do you live? I haven't paid two bucks for a beer in years - we always brag about how cheap it is when we go to spain and can get a pint for three euros! Quote
Members RA1 Posted October 31, 2010 Members Posted October 31, 2010 Actually I am comparing apples to oranges. I buy VO whiskey for about $27 USD for 1.75 liters or litres. So, 2 ounces of whiskey + 2-3 ounces of Diet Coke would be slightly more than 2 USD. But, that is as priced and mixed in my home, not at a bar. Here in Memphis,TN there are bars that sell 12 ounce bottles of beer for $2 or even $1 during happy hour. That would be domestic beer such as Budweiser or the like. More for any "real" beer. Some of my Swiss friends have often called US beer such as Coors, Colorado Kool Aid and ditto for other US beers. I have to agree. Not only is the alcohol content much less in US beers but there is little to no "character" to most of them. So, I have made "fun" of your beer and stated situation but only as a side issue. I am sure your bar has many friendly folks who are regulars and the beer is outstanding and the prices reasonable (by comparison) and especially so if you get the staff discount. Best regards, RA1 Quote
Guest FourAces Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 Not sure I fully agree but a interesting analogy. Quote
Guest NeedSome Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 Not sure I fully agree but a interesting analogy. First time I'm reading this thread. I do too much math at work to try and think about big macs and alcohol benchmarks for hiring. Plus I don't eat fast food and have at most 1 drink a month. But I do know this - I want to bring Luther to Brazil with me to act as my guide. Quote
Guest lurkerspeaks Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 First time I'm reading this thread. I do too much math at work to try and think about big macs and alcohol benchmarks for hiring. Plus I don't eat fast food and have at most 1 drink a month. But I do know this - I want to bring Luther to Brazil with me to act as my guide. Not sure why, but you are the second or third person who mistakenly thought my screen name was Luther..It is LURKER... because I lurked on the sites for over a year before finally joining in on the conversations.... If you need any further temptation to visit Rio, the picture that I use as my avatar is a boy I met on my first visit to Rio in 2008. I snapped that shot as he napped in my hotel bed.. Quote
Guest NeedSome Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 Not sure why, but you are the second or third person who mistakenly thought my screen name was Luther..It is LURKER... because I lurked on the sites for over a year before finally joining in on the conversations.... If you need any further temptation to visit Rio, the picture that I use as my avatar is a boy I met on my first visit to Rio in 2008. I snapped that shot as he napped in my hotel bed.. Oops. Sorry about that. But honestly, a little excommunication can be hot now and again. Quote
Members Lucky Posted November 3, 2010 Members Posted November 3, 2010 I don't think a big Mac in the US costs $6. The concept of using the Big Mac as a price index is not new: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index Quote
Guest FourAces Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 I don't think a big Mac in the US costs $6. The concept of using the Big Mac as a price index is not new: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index I'm the junk food expert around here A Big Mac is about $3.50 but a Big Mac value meal is about $6. depending on region. Quote
