The Daddy Posts

[Guest Matrix]

May I ask what happened to the Daddy post? Last I read, Oz asked people not to respond to Daddy, but he would not lock it or delete it.

Now, it appears that is has been deleted? Is there something that can be shared about deleting this post?

Thanks

[TotallyOz]

It is in the Mod forum awaiting for a response from the original poster. When we hear from him, we will reinstate.

[mvan1]

It is in the Mod forum awaiting for a response from the original poster. When we hear from him, we will reinstate.

I found the thread very amusing. It was obvious that the original poster was playing with us. You will not hear from the poster, that is my bet.

I am sorry to see that the thread was "sanitized" from this forum.

It did cause a pick up in traffic even though the thread was probably bogus.

[Guest restless]

I found the thread very amusing. It was obvious that the original poster was playing with us. You will not hear from the poster, that is my bet.

I am sorry to see that the thread was "sanitized" from this forum.

It did cause a pick up in traffic even though the thread was probably bogus.

It was amusing, but I can see TotallyOz's POV. You don't want trolls to see that kind of stuff getting so much play.

[TampaYankee]

The thread is back up. I believe it has had it 15 minutes but if people are still interested then have at it. Keep in mind there is no reason to believe the OP is Daddy and no reason to take him to task in this thread.

Anybody can claim to be any of us on any site where the right posting ID is open. I neither know what the OP's motive is nor do I care. He is welcome to make postive contibutions the same as anyone else and I hope he chooses that path.

My interests lie with the all posters who wish to make positive interesting contributions. FWIW

[TotallyOz]

It was obvious that the original poster was playing with us.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion I guess. I took the post very seriously. Others didn't.

And, like I said, I also hope this thread dies down. Any bump in traffic is nice but not if it is at the expense of someone else. IMHO

[Lucky]

I know that management has a fine line here, but this has not worked out very well. You said you weren't going to take the thread down, but you did, apparently to hear from the mock poster, which apparently you didn't. But the thread is back with admonitions not to post on it. So I don't get your point of view.

In my opinion, when some stranger comes in and tries to use your board for false purposes, he makes a mockery of what your board is here for. To just stand back and let him do it is not the approach I would take- I'd cut him off as soon as the fraud was apparent.

Finally, did not Steven Draker admit to being the false poster? That's how I took his remarks.

[Guest Scorpio]

Finally, did not Steven Draker admit to being the false poster? That's how I took his remarks.

No he didn't admit that. Steven was trying to make the point that the MER Daddy poster was an imposter based on his writing style. Steven pointed out that the MER Daddy correctly used the word "you're" in his post, whereas the "real" or "other" Daddy habitually uses "your" for "you're" in his writings.

[Guest StevenDraker]

Finally, did not Steven Draker admit to being the false poster?

Lucky, PLEASE DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I never said I was the author of that message.

When I noticed the post I immediately saw that someone was trying to play with us and have a little fun. I have no idea who the author of the message is and frankly, I don't care. If you have any problem with that post or with "Daddy", please refer to the Management and leave me out of your mess.

[Lucky]

Lucky, PLEASE DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I never said I was the author of that message.

When I noticed the post I immediately saw that someone was trying to play with us and have a little fun. I have no idea who the author of the message is and frankly, I don't care. If you have any problem with that post or with "Daddy", please refer to the Management and leave me out of your mess.

Excuse me, but you haven't posted here since March. Then the Daddy posts come in, and so do you. I took your remarks as an admission of guilt, especially given your history as Ice Fire Wizard. If this is not correct, then I misunderstood what you were doing.

[lookin]

Say what you will, I'm one of the folks that thinks this is just a bit of fun, by persons unknown, and will fly away on the breeze the instant it becomes anything more burdensome than that.

I have a lot of confidence in the Mods here. I think the instant the hullabaloo becomes anything more than a diversion, the poster(s) will be shown the door, and the threads will become a fading memory.

In my opinion, this is not your father's website. There's never been a lot of drama here, and that's almost entrely due to the mature, evenhanded way in which the site has been moderated from the day I first peeked in.

As men and boys of good will, we can do our part to help the moderators and keep our knickers smoothed and our tongues firmly planted in the appropriate cheeks.

My vote is to have some fun when and if the poster returns, and not make it into anything more than that. No need to attach anything negative to it. If the 'Daddy' poster, or any other poster, becomes a burden, let the moderators flip the necessary switch and we can get back to discussing more important things, like Ralph Waldo Emerson or Ralph Kramden or, dare I hope, Ralph Woods.

[Guest Matrix]

Excuse me, but you haven't posted here since March. Then the Daddy posts come in, and so do you. I took your remarks as an admission of guilt, especially given your history as Ice Fire Wizard. If this is not correct, then I misunderstood what you were doing.

You see Lucky, this is where you get yourself into trouble. You have edited this post four times now.

The org post you stated "I took your remarks as an admission of guilt, and still believe that to be true."

Then you changed that to: "If this is not correct, then I'm surprised"

Then you changed that to: "If this is not correct, then I take your word for it

And then finally (as of this post at least.)

You changed it to "If this is not correct, then I misunderstood what you were doing."

Changing your POV so dramatically,and numerous times, and in public, is sometimes why folks get a stick up their butt about you.

Perhaps you should use the 30 minute rule before posting anything.

[mvan1]

Lucky, PLEASE DO NOT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I never said I was the author of that message.

When I noticed the post I immediately saw that someone was trying to play with us and have a little fun. I have no idea who the author of the message is and frankly, I don't care. If you have any problem with that post or with "Daddy", please refer to the Management and leave me out of your mess.

Whether it is this site or the M4M (daddies) site (or most any other site where people from various backgrounds participate), there will be disagreements as well as camaraderie. That is just how life is, like it or not.

This site got a “shot in the arm” as a result of the shabbily planned and temporary shut down of M4M. The temporary closure of the other site caused an increase in traffic of this site. I hope the increase in traffic is not temporary.

Now that traffic has increased, I also hope management does not plan to mold this site into a "church ladies" site like Gay Travel Brazil has become.

Take a look at the few postings that are made on Gay Travel Brazil. Most of the posts are from the owner or his moderator, Trilingual. Most of the postings on that site are made by general members and those postings are mundane and uninteresting. Many initial members of that site no longer participate or post because of the direction management took the site or the way they were treated.

This forum has the potential to become a fairly strong competitor to the M4M site. However, if those members who take time and effort to post here have their postings stifled, the traffic on this site will revert to what it was prior to the meltdown of the M4M site a few weeks ago.

This is my observation and no offense is meant.

[MsGuy]

Anybody can claim to be any of us on any site where the right posting ID is open.

But only until the imposture comes to the attention of moderators, right? After that it's a matter of site policy.

My first reaction was that there was a lot of room for mischief in permitting this kind of masquerade. See the elbowing above between Lucky and StevenDraker (& now Matrix!); consider the possibility that Matrix and I might have gotten into a similar fuss were I not by nature a timid and retiring sort.

But after being schooled by Oz's humor & gentle, indirect guidance in the Zen of running an open board, I've come to see case can be made for letting this thing play itself out. Maybe I just need to have more faith in the self-corrective powers of the community.

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PS, Lookin, I vote for Kramden & Woods. Emerson is entirely too high toned for the likes of me. And, as always, the rest of your post was right on point.

[AdamSmith]

Emerson is entirely too high toned for the likes of me.

The thing about Emerson is that you have to read him just one sentence at a time. Taken as a whole, any one of his essays is an intimidating mishmash of too many ideas flying at you all at the same time, like some lethal fusillade of lawn darts.

But his individual sentences make surprising sense. Such as (particularly appropriate for an escort-hiring forum):

"Nothing is got for nothing."

And so forth.

[Lucky]

You see Lucky, this is where you get yourself into trouble. You have edited this post four times now.

The org post you stated "I took your remarks as an admission of guilt, and still believe that to be true."

Then you changed that to: "If this is not correct, then I'm surprised"

Then you changed that to: "If this is not correct, then I take your word for it

And then finally (as of this post at least.)

You changed it to "If this is not correct, then I misunderstood what you were doing."

Changing your POV so dramatically,and numerous times, and in public, is sometimes why folks get a stick up their butt about you.

Perhaps you should use the 30 minute rule before posting anything.

Perhaps...and I am glad to know that you are following me so closely. So maybe it's you putting something up my butt, not the other way around?

I think you need to remember that I am entertaining myself here as much as anything else. A 30 minute rule might take some of the fun out of it.

[TotallyOz]

It is in the Mod forum awaiting for a response from the original poster. When we hear from him, we will reinstate.

I did hear from him. His response was appropriate in that he said he name Daddy was available and he chose to use it. That is enough for me for now. TY and I don't like stepping in and removing threads. We will if they get out of hand. This has not happened yet. I hope it doesn't happen.

Sometimes in order to think about things and chat, if I feel a thread needs to be discussed and TY is asleep, I move to the Mod forum until I can discuss it with him. I will do this on any thread I feel uncomfortable with. I did with ONE thread here. It was returned as soon as TY and I discussed it. I can count of one hand the number of times this has happened. I reserve the right to do this to any thread when I want to have a moderator discussion about it.

I hope you understand that we do not want a site that is a bitch fest. We are here to get and give information and have a good time. I don't want and won't let this board become a place for constant put downs of others.

That said, choose to believe this is another Daddy or the same Daddy. The name was avsilable. He took it and used it. We are all adults and can make our own decision about this. IMHO, if you think the poster is here to cause problems, ignore him. He will go away. Or, he will make a mistake and go overboard and then I'll have cause to remove him.

[MsGuy]

This is where you get yourself into trouble. You have edited this post four times now.

Sweet Jesus help me, but the spirit is moving me to knee walk up the center aisle and make my own confession to the congregation: I too have edited and fallen short of the glory of God.

True, usually it was my weakness for idiosyncratic spelling and grammar and even incoherent passages (surely less than mortal sins!), but, often enough, I edited whole sentences that did not carry my true intent. And edited and edited and edited even unto the 6th & 7th time. Is there no end to my shame? Blessed Brethern, (I hold back nothing!) I have even erased entire posts that, after prayer and reflection, seemed aggressive & unnecessary.

Bless you all, I feel much better now for having it all out in the open. Hi, my name is MsGuy, and I'm a serial editor.

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Edited but only to state the above post is entirely unedited. Damn, it's hard to give this up.

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2nd edit: Fuck! There's at least two sentences above that badly need editing. Get thee behind me, Satan!

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3rd edit: OK, I edited the 2nd edit for spelling and punctuation ("that" for "the" & added the comma. Maybe I can just taper off gradually.

[Guest Matrix]

Bless you all, I feel much better now for having it all out in the open. Hi, my name is MsGuy, and I'm a serial editor.

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Edited but only to state the above post is entirely unedited. Damn, it's hard to give this up.

LOL, MsGuy. Now that was funny. My point however, and you'll notice that Lucky has agreed, was not that he was editing errors, or sentence structure - His swing in POV regarding Steven Draker's involvement was quite drastic, and within minutes of one another. hence my post.

It's one thing to edit sentence structure, adjectives, adverbs and the like, as you seem to do a lot of but when your point of view changes so dramatically in just the matter of minutes, it makes you wonder.

It also leads to misunderstandings and that sort of thing.

[Lucky]

"It also leads to misunderstandings and that sort of thing."

Matriz, I don't think we are misunderstanding each other at all. As for the other sort of thing, well, I won't tell if you don't.

MsGuy- very funny. I liked that! In a minute I might say something else, so enjoy the compliment while you can!

[TampaYankee]

I know that management has a fine line here, but this has not worked out very well. You said you weren't going to take the thread down, but you did, apparently to hear from the mock poster, which apparently you didn't. But the thread is back with admonitions not to post on it. So I don't get your point of view.

In my opinion, when some stranger comes in and tries to use your board for false purposes, he makes a mockery of what your board is here for. To just stand back and let him do it is not the approach I would take- I'd cut him off as soon as the fraud was apparent.

I assume you read my post announcing its return and took from it admonitions not to post on it. I think that interpretation is a bit of a stretch. It was not my intent to admonish anyone, only to point out that I didn't think there was much substance to the thread and that it probably had its run after the initial 'shock value'.

I still do not think there is much to the thread, not nearly as much as some apparently. The addition of a troll post does not impress me as to substance or worthyness of much reaction. Some people blow farts just to get a reaction. We all have seen it numerous times in the past. I just don't place any value or real concern in it. Certainly not enough to give it enough respect as an offense to warrant taking the thread down. Now that could change here or in another thread in the future. I never say never.

I do not want a forum that is always pulling threads because a of an occasional transgression with a mindless affront, or because a few get insulted. Forum particpation sometimes takes a thick skin. The best forums are centers of inclusion not rejection. Sometimes that requires we put on a thick skin. Sometimes it requires we ignore provocation and move on. Once you start throwing people out or pulling threads people will start demanding it in this case and that -- anytime someone gets the least offended. That pisses people off when threads get yanked and it pisses people off when requests to pull are denied. That is not the atmosphere we want. Again, I never say never but we are barely beyond two weeks into the August challenge with cries to pull threads or posts. Are we that fragile? I think not.

In my opinion, when some stranger comes in and tries to use your board for false purposes, he makes a mockery of what your board is here for.

All sorts of people are going to come, hopefully. Occasionally, we get a joker who will attempt to amuse himself at the expense of others. It only works if the 'others' buy into it. It was pretty clear from the beginning that this gentleman came under false pretense to stir controversy. Once you know his game why play along? Its worse than a cat chasing a laser pointer on a carpet. Nothing he has to say is going to offend me because I do not value his opinion. So let him mock all he wants; it won't affect me. I am confident in the value of the site and the forum and the members, escorts and reviewers who choose to particpate. It may not be for everyone but I don't really care about everyone. The site is for like-minded people.That is enough for me.

Finally, did not Steven Draker admit to being the false poster? That's how I took his remarks.

Regarding Steven, I in no way took his post as a confession. Quite the contrary it seemed clear to me he was offering an observation on why the identity was false. FWIW

[TampaYankee]

Anybody can claim to be any of us on any site where the right posting ID is open.

But only until the imposture comes to the attention of moderators, right? After that it's a matter of site policy.

I have to confess my mental acuity at this moment is such that this has gone over my head. I'm not sure what your point is.

As an aside, I agree with others that you have made some very funny posts lately. Very enjoyable.

[MsGuy]

MsGuy- very funny. I liked that! In a minute I might say something else, so enjoy the compliment while you can!

If I understand all this correctly, I've just locked in my compliment by quoting it in my own post, so edit away as you please.

I'd do a screen capture and hide it forever somewhere on my hard drive, to be brought out and treasured on special days, but I don't know how.

And, as to how to magic up prior versions of a post as Matrix does, I don't even want to know. Leave me in blissful ignorance, please.

[lookin]

And, as to how to magic up prior versions of a post as Matrix does, I don't even want to know. Leave me in blissful ignorance, please.

Don't know either, but I'm glad he did. It was a treat to watch Lucky's opinion change and words soften bit by bit. Shows a thoughtful mind in action. It also shows the limitations of a medium in which point-in-time expressions become legacies once the edit period expires.

The magic I would like to understand though appears in the post just above yours. TampaYankee has a quote within a quote. In fact, he quotes you quoting him. How'd he do that??

[TampaYankee]

The magic I would like to understand though appears in the post just above yours. TampaYankee has a quote within a quote. In fact, he quotes you quoting him. How'd he do that??

For those who may be confused lookin's request pertains to message #22 above.

Here it is verbatim except for a $ here and there. Remove the $s to have tne quote commands executed.

[$quote name=MsGuy' date='18 August 2010 - 08:46 PM' timestamp='1282178779' post='25078]

[$quote name=TampaYankee' date='18 August 2010 - 01:45 PM' timestamp='1282153551' post='25043]

Anybody can claim to be any of us on any site where the right posting ID is open.

But only until the imposture comes to the attention of moderators, right? After that it's a matter of site policy.