Another Management meltdown?

[mvan1]

Cracks me up every time I read about people donating money to Daddy. It really is true that a sucker is born every minute. And there is a never ending supply.

I still remember intelligent people I knew well contributing money to Hooboy. He was staying in $1000 a night suites and filling them up with boys from the money he was making from the site. And Daddy has followed right along begging for money from people who ought to know better.

If you want to throw your money away give it to OZ and Tampa who run the site the way it should be run and never lower themselves to be Beggars

What you wrote makes perfect sense. I remember reading posts made by Hooboy bragging about his travels and the hotels he used and the countless boys he hired. Obviously, the money to do the things he did came from somewhere. I took him at his word and never thought that he was disingenuous when he asked for money.

I also never thought that in addition to being dumb, that the "Daddy" character was also a con man who would stoop to begging.

What is it people say - ? Birds of a feather - - - ?

[Lucky]

One Finger: deej has removed the language he inserted at the top of the Comedy & Tragedy Forum announcing its closure.

I do thank OZ and Tampa Yankee for allowing us to use this forum to update events over at Daddys. I know that the hope is that those who come over here will stick around, and I hope that they do. One thing you get to see here are hard dicks and cum spots on the faces of cute young men- over 18, of course.

How long the closure of the forums at Daddys will last is something I am not privy to. Perhaps he went on a round the world cruise with those donations he received.

Now, when I say around the world, I mean the kind of trip you take with an escort, in the bedrooom!

If all else fails, there's the Ding Song Song!

[MsGuy]

History speaks clearly to all of this. Some may stick around here for a while but without a critical mass they will grow frustrated.

Much as I love you TY, I suspect you could count the number of folks who go to (or avoid) either site because of management on your fingers & toes. If a forum's got that critical mass of regulars to provide good interaction between posters, it takes truly god awful moderators to kill it off and, if it doesn't, no amount of effort is going to breath life into it.

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Me, I'm committed to hanging around at least until I get to read TY's first person accounts of the night life in Havana. I should live so long!

We'll be here tomorrow, next week and next year providing a fair and open process alternative for those who desire to share with their peers fair substantive reviews of escorts.

Which is the core function of both sites. Much as I enjoy the forums, from a business POV they are tack-ons, true?

[OneFinger]

..After all most of you are fucking cowards ... blind sheep ... followers .... most of you will go running back to daddys forums as soon as they open. Do not tell me differently either assholes ... your lack of participation here is well noted. Go on now move along daddy needs another round of donations to keep his message center open ... you guys are just awesome!

Thanks for making us feel welcome. It's responses like yours that keeps me from posting more frequently.

Now, I'm going to spend the rest of the evening looking for an "ignore" function on this site so I don't have to read your fucking posts again.

[TotallyOz]

Thanks for making us feel welcome. It's responses like yours that keeps me from posting more frequently.

Understood. But, don't forget the Yin Yang principal.

We welcome your One Finger and the four other ones as well.

[BiBottomBoy]

Why can't we all just get along?

[Buddy2]

One Finger: deej has removed the language he inserted at the top of the Comedy & Tragedy Forum announcing its closure.

How long the closure of the forums at Daddys will last is something I am not privy to. Perhaps he went on a round the world cruise with those donations he received.

Now, when I say around the world, I mean the kind of trip you take with an escort, in the bedrooom!

On donations to Daddy, I contributed some money, and never received a response from Daddy. So if Daddy is a con man, he's not a very good one. I would never make a second donation, something I mught have done if he had responded.

[BiBottomBoy]

Fuck daddy if that's the way he treats people.

[Lucky]

Just awesome! Most of the people posting in this thread should be on their hands and knees kissing OZ ass thanking him for allowing them to use his bandwidth to temporarily bitch here. After all most of you are fucking cowards ... blind sheep ... followers .... most of you will go running back to daddys forums as soon as they open. Do not tell me differently either assholes ... your lack of participation here is well noted. Go on now move along daddy needs another round of donations to keep his message center open ... you guys are just awesome!

Four Aces has hardly been the one to keep the fires burning here. Before this, he last posted on April 3d, one post. Before that it was November 13th, 1 post. And, before that, it was October 20th. So, in the last NINE months, he posted TWICE before this rant about those who's "lack of participation here is well noted."

Just saying, not that I want him to post more!

[AdamSmith]

Why can't we all just get along?

Because we are closer to chimps than bonobos.

Haven't we had this discussion before?

[Guest twinklover]

You've seen it but it bears repeating. From Daddy's "Vacation" closure of his message forum:

"Finding new members is easy because we have a steady stream of new users that show up daily and a few stick around for a while." Translation: "you existing members don't matter, quit complaining, go away. I don't care if you do. You'll be easily replaced in the steady stream". Then he tries to justify the insult by referring to his moderators. But how keeping members conflicts with finding or maintaining moderators is never explained to us.

"At times we get cranky and short tempered. This is one of those times. Over the years I've found that the best solution is for the message forum to take a break."

A little history is in order. You'd think Daddy's message forum had suddenly become wild and unruly. The fact is Daddy's message forum had become as quiet as a senior citizen's home compared to male escort forums of the past. Old-timers like me will recall the seminal escort forum over at Atkol which was closed down before 2000. Remember all the controversies, such colorful characters as Aaron Lawrence and Jeremy Jordan Dawson, and the howls of laughter at all the naughty posts. Then Hooboy started his site and forum. I got involved late in the day when doug69, woodlawn, FinFanFoom and others regularly submitted "contrarian" opinions. The controversies continued after Hooboy died and Daddy took over. EscortSpeak then followed the meltdown and bannings at Daddy's forum. The mean girls had total freedom there to post and, yes, that forum was wild and unruly. EscortSpeak was not a site, however, that could compete with the full services of Daddy's site. By contrast, this site is extensive, well-designed and has grown to over 17,000 members. It is able to compete with Daddy's site. Not once have you heard any "whining" from the owners and moderators of this site about getting "cranky" and "short tempered". Not once has anyone here prostrated himself (except in homage of Ralph Woods and some other beautiful guys) or begged you for "donations".

Compared to the past, Daddy's forum has all of the excitement of a funeral parlor, yet he whines about his crankiness, closes his message forum, and insults his existing members with a sign on the door that says: "Fuck you. Go away. I'll get new patrons."

There is new life in this forum, as Daddy (unfortunately in my opinion) continues to self-destruct. I visit this site regularly but seldom post anymore. To this day, I don't understand why more people aren't over here day in and day out. This site has so many better features than Daddy's site. I especially like the home page with featured persons, most hits and new profiles. I love seeing fully naked pics--thanks TY, lutherspeak and lookin for some recent titillations. And I always enjoy the posts and news emanating from old friends like Marc and kindred spirits like Adam Smith. Who knows? Perhaps we shall have a renaissance and there will be more online and in-person company among old and new acquaintances.

[BiBottomBoy]

Yeah,

This site is much hotter than Daddy's site. In fact, I never even bothered to post there. As far as I can tell this is where the real men are.

[Guest twinklover]

No doubt about that. This is what is called

a Cartesian certainty. The coolest and hottest

escorts, patrons and observers have always been

and lurked and hemmed and hawed over here--on THIS SITE.

I have too. Have you seen me posting obnoxiously here or anywhere else,

Nope. But out of the woodworks I have cum,

with a big load just to say how much I appreciate Oz and TY

and the powers that be here. I love you for creating all of this.

Let the boy's say it--enough from me.

I hope they will come on this site, one after the other.

I'm sure they will, and then you doubters will know,

what THEY think about this.

Every current and future escort I see will be adding comments here.

It will be a, well, condition of employment, nope, a friendly gesture

with which I hope you will oblige me.

[mvan1]

Four Aces has hardly been the one to keep the fires burning here. Before this, he last posted on April 3d, one post. Before that it was November 13th, 1 post. And, before that, it was October 20th. So, in the last NINE months, he posted TWICE before this rant about those who's "lack of participation here is well noted."

Just saying, not that I want him to post more!

Bravo - good detective work!

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[BiBottomBoy]

I think a lot of us come and go. When I'm in a relationship I tend to think less about escorts and don't want an escort site in my browser cache.

When I'm single I have more time on my hands and am more willing to hang out in escort forums.

[Guest Conway]

I'd love to see this thread get back to Ralph Woods and that magnificent schlong of his as opposed to daddy and that nasty old temper of his.

A question for those of you who possess expertise in the Montreal scene.

Does Ralph escort? Where's good hotel near the stripper bars?

I must go before the end of summer.

[Guest Matrix]

I'd love to see this thread get back to Ralph Woods and that magnificent schlong of his as opposed to daddy and that nasty old temper of his.

But this thread never was about Ralph and his fat schlooong. A temporary hijack might have made it so, but this thread was always about the other site.

Might it not be a better idea to start a new thread about Ralph wood, than to complain about what this thread topic is about? Just sayin'

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

To answer your questions:

1) does Ralph escort---Not that I have heard of..at least not since he stopped dancing..but I can't say with certainty.

2) As far as hotels, there is only one "major" hotel near the strip clubs and that is the Hotel Gouverneur Place Dupuis....I personally have not stayed there so I can only speak from what I have heard. It is VERY convenient, rooms are good, service is mediocre. There are many gay b & b's in the Village is you are one to like that kind of accomodation, or if you are a priceline type, the Hyatt Regency comes up very frequently, as does the Delta Montreal.. both are about a 5-10 minute cab ride from the strip clubs and the Village and can be a nice 15 minutes stroll if the weather is permitting. I have stayed at both of these and have been very pleased... There is a very good subway system that till take you from both of these hotels directly into the Village.

Hope these answer your questions...

[BiBottomBoy]

Only go to Montreal in the spring or summer. I did trip there in February once and that is a fucking bitter cold city then.

[TotallyOz]

Every current and future escort I see will be adding comments here.

It will be a, well, condition of employment, nope, a friendly gesture

with which I hope you will oblige me.

LOL I love this idea. I don't think any better way to get participation that your boys. The numbers here will skyrocket.