Guest Matrix Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 I also happen to know "Matrix"'s real name and I am ashamed that he would post this crap. You know absolutely nothing about me or who I am TownsendPlocke, let's make that perfectly clear right now. Quote
Members TownsendPLocke Posted October 13, 2009 Members Posted October 13, 2009 You know absolutely nothing about me or who I am TownsendPlocke, let's make that perfectly clear right now. actually I do have a more than pretty good Idea of both your"working"name and your real name and you should be ashamed.But since I am a better man than you are I will not address you again on this subject. Quote
Guest Matrix Posted October 13, 2009 Posted October 13, 2009 actually I do have a more than pretty good Idea of both your"working"name and your real name and you should be ashamed.But since I am a better man than you are I will not address you again on this subject. Well. My working name and my real name are one. They have always been and so shall they always will be. There will always be better men than I, and worse. Thank you for pointing that out. Quote
Members marcanthony Posted October 14, 2009 Members Posted October 14, 2009 I've been traveling, so this is the first I've seen of this thread. Wow... very complex issue. The only thing that's certain about it is that it won't be unanimous. There's not much that can be said that hasn't already been said except this. I really appreciate the owners and administrators of this site. Yes they are my friends, and no I don't always agree with them. But I appreciate that they try to do it right. They care about some standard (whether you agree with it all the time or not), and they make a sincere effort to not only follow it, but explain it to the membership as well. Quote
Guest Matrix Posted October 14, 2009 Posted October 14, 2009 I've been traveling, so this is the first I've seen of this thread. Wow... very complex issue. The only thing that's certain about it is that it won't be unanimous. There's not much that can be said that hasn't already been said except this. I really appreciate the owners and administrators of this site. Yes they are my friends, and no I don't always agree with them. But I appreciate that they try to do it right. They care about some standard (whether you agree with it all the time or not), and they make a sincere effort to not only follow it, but explain it to the membership as well. No doubt about that one....No Doubt. Quote
Members Lucky Posted October 15, 2009 Members Posted October 15, 2009 Gee, I didn't read through this earlier, so I am surprised to see Tampa Yankee warning people about attending the Palm Springs Hooville Theater Weekend. Since you haven't been, TY, (and you are welcome to come) I would state that in the five years of holding these events these are pretty wholesome affairs. To say that the presence of escorts necessarily means (or even likely means)the presence of drugs is pretty defamatory and surprising to hear from the owner of an escort review website. If this is not what you are saying, I would be happy to hear a clarification. As for the blog on Scott's trial, why is it anonymous? Someone afraid to hold their head high on what they are doing? Quote
TotallyOz Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Gee, I didn't read through this earlier, so I am surprised to see Tampa Yankee warning people about attending the Palm Springs Hooville Theater Weekend. Since you haven't been, TY, (and you are welcome to come) I would state that in the five years of holding these events these are pretty wholesome affairs. To say that the presence of escorts necessarily means (or even likely means)the presence of drugs is pretty defamatory and surprising to hear from the owner of an escort review website. If this is not what you are saying, I would be happy to hear a clarification. I must not have read this thoroughly either Lucky. Can you show me that quote? Please be specific as I am a little blond and may miss it again unless I see it clearly. I know you are not just trying to stir up shit Lucky and can show me where he warned others not to attend the gathering. Thank you in advance for your kindness. Quote
Members Lucky Posted October 15, 2009 Members Posted October 15, 2009 I must not have read this thoroughly either Lucky. Can you show me that quote? Please be specific as I am a little blond and may miss it again unless I see it clearly. I know you are not just trying to stir up shit Lucky and can show me where he warned others not to attend the gathering. Thank you in advance for your kindness. Lurker Speaks expressed his concern that he attended the Palm Springs event at which Scott Adler also attended. TY responded: Although I have NO first-hand knowledge, based on what I've been told over the years you should avoid all of the gatherings of the type you attended. I have been told that drugs are de rigueur at almost any gathering of boys in the porn and escort industries. It might be prudent to assume that reasons for all of your concers are in full bloom at these gatherings. ***** And what other conclusion can I draw? Quote
Members TampaYankee Posted October 15, 2009 Author Members Posted October 15, 2009 Gee, I didn't read through this earlier, so I am surprised to see Tampa Yankee warning people about attending the Palm Springs Hooville Theater Weekend. First, I had no idea it was this particular event. The original post only mentioned a gathering in Palm Springs. Palm Springs has many boy-related gatherings, not all so cultural in nature. My response to Lurkerspeaks was made prior to his clarification of the event. I have done no such thing as to 'warn people'. I made a response to Lurkerspeaks predicated on his broadly stated desire not to be around people associated with drugs and on my understanding from others about the association of drugs and boy gatherings. That remark was predicated entirely on his concern, not mine, not peoples. [My concerns are less sensitive. I know some guys are not strangers to drugs. However, as long as they are clean and sober around me I am not concerned for me (although I am concerned for them more generally). I think such parties are fun as long as there is no obvious drug aspect. But I would be naive to think that everyone in attendance (most who I probably don't know) had never been associated with drugs and might not be on a law enforecement interest list]. My intent was to point out the implications of his concern and the logical conclusion for him with respect to his comfort, not for anyone else. Since you haven't been, TY, (and you are welcome to come) I would state that in the five years of holding these events these are pretty wholesome affairs. If I'm ever in the neighborhood then count on me. I'd like to attend. Sorry, I haven't been able too as of yet. To say that the presence of escorts necessarily means (or even likely means)the presence of drugs is pretty defamatory and surprising to hear from the owner of an escort review website. If this is not what you are saying, I would be happy to hear a clarification. I never stated that all or most escorts are involved. Somewhere above I made that very explicit. I made the remark, based on what I have been told, that at any large gathering of porn/escort boys an association with drugs would not be surprising. Implicit in that is whether by one or a few or more in number. Lurkerspeaks expressed a definite desire not to be around anyone in that context. If you are in a position to go on record that this circumstance is the rare exception at these gatherings, and that rare case would be obvious to anyone in attendance then I'm sure that would put him at ease. I passed along what I have been given to understand by people I believe to be reliable sources. I made clear that my knowledge, by and large, was second hand. But I have attended a number of gathrings and been around enough to know others that attend many of these events and I know what they tell me. They have no reason to shade the truth as far as I can tell. Maybe you are especially diligent to attract the Boy Scout division of escort/porn boys. As for the blog on Scott's trial, why is it anonymous? Someone afraid to hold their head high on what they are doing? Why do you persist in asking me questions about which I have no definitive knowledge or any responsbility to answer?. Next, it will be: Does Charley Rangel have hemorrhoids and why is that? Finally, this is the second time in this thead I have been charged incorrectly with 'warning people' to swear off boy-related gatherings. the second time I have had to point out that my remarks that focused on Lurkerspeaks' concern are quite different from a general warning to all. It is frustrating when a post fails to receive the careful reading it deserves and whenvall succeeding exchanges that frame later discussion are overlooked or ignored. In this case it seems just be carelessness in following this thread: Gee, I didn't read through this earlier,... P.S. I dropped by the other site to see what response your expose' about me/MER garnered. It was MIA as far as I could tell. Perhaps not all of your posts are welcome over there? Did anyone have the opportunity to respond before the ax fell? Quote
Members JKane Posted October 15, 2009 Members Posted October 15, 2009 To those who are concerned with the possibility of being put in harms way by a hooker who has run afoul of the law guess what?You are engaging in illegal activities simply by hiring someone to have sex with! What a bunch of pansy hypocrites some of you folks are. Of course we all take a risk with our activities. I was saying it should be my choice whether or not to increase that risk by associating with somebody who's arrested/indicted for a serious crime and has good reason to be extraordinarily desperate. I'm all for privacy but I feel this board should, if necessary, rank ours above that of somebody who'd gone out of his way to be a 'superstar male escort' at the center of controversy and gossip at every chance he got. I don't pay particular attention to real names or put any effort into tracking who's really who but even I knew this escorts' real first name and had heard his last--despite no interest in him. In this particular case the info was out there and I just don't see the point in pretending it's not... leaving those well-connected with the warning and everybody else potentially exposed. Quote
Members Lucky Posted October 15, 2009 Members Posted October 15, 2009 P.S. I dropped by the other site to see what response your expose' about me/MER garnered. It was MIA as far as I could tell. Perhaps not all of your posts are welcome over there? Did anyone have the opportunity to respond before the ax fell? First of all, TY, I appreciate your clarification on attending events with escorts such as the Palm Springs one. Second, we'll be glad to have you at the event. Next year it is on March 27th and 28th. Finally, what is this that you are talking about wherein I am doing some kind of attack on you over in Hooville? If I did say something, I don't remember it. I did come over here and congratulate you on dropping the original Scott Adler thread. I did notice that you are being vilified at the blog on Scott's trial. But where have I started a vendetta against you? Every question I have for you has been posted right here. There is nothing going on at Hooville that I am aware of. You should know by now that if I have a gripe with you I bring it right to you. And we have both expressed our desire that the situation now be left to the courts. (Just as an aside, many of my posts at Hooville fall flat. Many don't. That's life on a message board.) Quote
TotallyOz Posted October 15, 2009 Posted October 15, 2009 Finally, what is this that you are talking about wherein I am doing some kind of attack on you over in Hooville? Clarification: Daddyville. It is so far from Hooville that I can't even calculate. Again, we will agree to disagree. Quote
Members TampaYankee Posted October 15, 2009 Author Members Posted October 15, 2009 Finally, what is this that you are talking about wherein I am doing some kind of attack on you over in Hooville? If I did say something, I don't remember it. Not an attack some much as an expose' of our policy and actions in this matter. I guess I misinterpreted your remarks in another post in the sister thread. http://www.maleescortreview.com/forum/index.php?/topic/3984-scott-adler-arrested-on-drug-charges/ ...Incidentally, I have expressed myself on this over at the other site in case you care to see what I have said. I thought your remark was to address specifically our position rather than your position. My mistake. Quote
