TotallyOz Posted June 8, 2009 Posted June 8, 2009 Obama has a real chance to follow through on his campaign pledge to abolish the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy. Will he take a step in the right direction? http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/08...?iref=hpmostpop Quote
Members MsGuy Posted June 8, 2009 Members Posted June 8, 2009 Pushing either Dont' Ask, Don't Tell or Gay marriage to the Supreme Court right now is the legal equivalent of thinking with the little head. My stomach hurts when I think of how much there is to lose by rushing ahead before the necessary spadework has been done and how close we are to achieving these goals through safer, if slower, means. If nothing else, there's the distinct possibility that one or two of the swing votes we need have gotten a little gun shy after a whole generation's worth of litigation on abortion. This is inherently a political issue and it needs to be at least partially won in the political arena before being presented to the Court for ratification. The California Supreme Court practically stood on its head to make clear its holding on Prop. 8 wasn't intended to be anti-gay but the media and the public read it as an endorsement of the anti gay marriage groups. Try to imagine reading a majority opinion on gay marriage written by Justice Scalia before donating any money to a legal group hot to get an immediate definitive ruling on these issues. Even very smart lawyers can let their personal ambition to write their names onto a landmark case cloud their judgement on the timing of a lawsuit. For some it's better to take their chance and lose than wait and let someone else win the credit. Like I said, it's the legal equivalent of thinking with your little head. There are very good reasons the established gay legal groups are shying away from the Supreme Court on gay marriage. Let's take our time and do this right. We won't get a second chance for a generation. Just my two cents worth, guys. Sitting here in a small Mid-South town, maybe I'm missing something that changes the risk/reward equation. Quote
Guest StuCotts Posted June 9, 2009 Posted June 9, 2009 My understanding is that what the courts won't do to move this matter forward can be done in the legislature, where some experts say it really should be done. No? Quote
Members MsGuy Posted June 10, 2009 Members Posted June 10, 2009 My understanding is that what the courts won't do to move this matter forward can be done in the legislature, where some experts say it really should be done. No? Yes, it's much safer and working through the legislatures (& referenda) has the additional effect of educating straights out of their stereotypes about gays. Quote
Members BigK Posted June 10, 2009 Members Posted June 10, 2009 Pushing either Dont' Ask, Don't Tell or Gay marriage to the Supreme Court right now is the legal equivalent of thinking with the little head. Great line. I agree, groundwork continues to need to be laid..... Quote
Members RA1 Posted June 11, 2009 Members Posted June 11, 2009 Great line. I agree, groundwork continues to need to be laid..... Not to be too silly, but is "groundwork" an escort we all need to know? Best regards, RA1 Quote
