Guest 2hard2tame Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 used without permission_ smile 1. "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows tha! t no nat ion can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficult times with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans. 2. "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds. 3. I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school." 4. Get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population." 5 include dual citizenship, and promote divided loyalties I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other- that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common Language and literature; and they worshipped the same Gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic games. A common enemy, Persia, threatened their liberty. ! Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell. "E. Pluribus Unum" -- from many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'Pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we will balkanize America assuredly as Kosovo." 6. I would place all subjects off limits; make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and debate. Having made America a bi-lingual/bicultural country, having established multiculturalism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them." Quote
Guest StuCotts Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Best way of all to take America down: keep the catastrophically stupid and destructive Bush in office for two endless terms, during which he can reduce us to our present sorry financial, military and diplomatic state. Quote
Guest 2hard2tame Posted March 26, 2009 Posted March 26, 2009 Best way of all to take America down: keep the catastrophically stupid and destructive Bush in office for two endless terms, during which he can reduce us to our present sorry financial, military and diplomatic state. This isn't a political discussion. If you wish to talk politics, take it to another site. Quote
Guest 2hard2tame Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 Best way of all to take America down: keep the catastrophically stupid and destructive Bush in office for two endless terms, during which he can reduce us to our present sorry financial, military and diplomatic state. not political, just commenting on what you said. It wasn't endless, its quite obvious how it wasn't. And the financial state isn't soley his problem, and not to mention our "diplomatic" state isn't something you can comment on. Unless you happen to be an analyst and even then, its on opinion. As far as the military is concerned...unless you are in it or have spent any time in it, you have zero knowledge other than what you watch on CNN. Quote
AdamSmith Posted March 27, 2009 Posted March 27, 2009 As far as the military is concerned...unless you are in it or have spent any time in it, you have zero knowledge other than what you watch on CNN. I have zero knowledge of almost anything other than what I watch on CNN. Or read here. Or hear whispered in my ear by a hot twink boning me. Quote
Members Lucky Posted March 27, 2009 Members Posted March 27, 2009 I got fucked by a soldier once, so I should think that imbued me with some knowledge on the subject. Talk about standing at attention! Did I mention that he was a drill sergeant? Quote
Guest 2hard2tame Posted March 28, 2009 Posted March 28, 2009 I got fucked by a soldier once, so I should think that imbued me with some knowledge on the subject. Talk about standing at attention! Did I mention that he was a drill sergeant? I had a massive fantasy for my drill sgt. I would never and have never bottomed, but oddly enough I imagined him fucking the hell outta me. Odd. Quote
Guest Conway Posted March 28, 2009 Posted March 28, 2009 "I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion" "Outrage" seems to have worked that way lately. Quote
Members MsGuy Posted March 28, 2009 Members Posted March 28, 2009 I had a massive fantasy for my drill sgt.I would never and have never bottomed, but oddly enough I imagined him fucking the hell outta me. Odd. If he was anything like the sgt. major I knew, I can well understand the attraction. Quote
Members lookin Posted March 28, 2009 Members Posted March 28, 2009 "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." Quote
Guest 2hard2tame Posted March 29, 2009 Posted March 29, 2009 Your crappy attempt at referencing indian's selling their country for beads means nothing. Now go back to justifying this current case of affirmative action at play based on crap you only heard about. You get your ObamaZombie card in the mail yet? Please post remarks without taking personal shots. TY Quote
Members TampaYankee Posted March 30, 2009 Members Posted March 30, 2009 Your crappy attempt at referencing indian's selling their country for beads means nothing. That's not at all how I interpreted the message. As an aside, I think the broader view of history is that the vast majority of native peoples didnt sell their lands. Quote
Guest 2hard2tame Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 That's not at all how I interpreted the message. As an aside, I think the broader view of history is that the vast majority of native peoples didnt sell their lands. Hrm, so I am suppposed to feel guilty right? I mean that is the underlying reason and justification for the assault on the mind and character of your typical white male. I mean, I can't speak for my self as a white male, being that both sides of my family are immigrants to the US.... But, in light of the fact they all came to this country and worked hard, busted their ass...some in business, most in the military and gave back to this (not so much anymore) great country allows me to speak of such things. Guilt is the biggest weapon the liberals and lefties have in their arsenal. For instance: Slavery. You and I and very few people alive have anything to do with the self admitted period of American history that every day kids are reminded of and have held to their head like a gun in some ghetto hold up. Incidentally, you speak of a broader perspective? Wasn't slavery started and perpetuated in America originally by fellow Africans? My point is, you can't expect me to swallow this whole guilt thing for something I have never done nor believe in. And it certainly doesn't excuse the behavior of the vast majority of people in this country. Besides, not to compare bad things, but last I checked my ancestor's had it a little worse than the black person turn of the century... Last I checked, the Jews were ran out from their land, roasted like some worthless refuse and tortured soley because of their heritage. Call me crass, but at least some people were given a job and a house and semi decent living conditions. Ill take that over the alternative. Oh hey, guess I could use the holocaust as an continued excuse to be lazy, worthless and leech of the system and collect reparations thinly disguised as welfare too, right? My point is, NO ONE is a product of history. Yes, it does have some bearing in who you are and your identity, but at the end of the day it comes down to your personal decisions and choices, no? I mean hell, if your god Obama can come from self admitted poverty and being a petty drug dealer to being the President of the United Socialist States of America well anyone can do anything, right? No more excuses. Quote
AdamSmith Posted March 30, 2009 Posted March 30, 2009 indian's selling their country for beads The Cherokee of western N.C. did not understand their lands to be included in the bill of sale for Manhattan island. To take one example. Quote
Members TampaYankee Posted March 30, 2009 Members Posted March 30, 2009 Hrm, so I am suppposed to feel guilty right? I mean that is the underlying reason and justification for the assault on the mind and character of your typical white male. Who asked you to feel guilt? Certainly not I or anyone else that I noticed in this thread. As an aside, one can feel compassion about travesties of history without feeling guilt. As for immigrants, we are all immigrants or from immigrant stock. Quote
Members MsGuy Posted March 31, 2009 Members Posted March 31, 2009 This isn't a political discussion.If you wish to talk politics, take it to another site. Taking you at your word, please consider the following points: As a matter of common courtesy to your readers, long involved quotes should be attributed. In this case "Richard Lamm, former Rep. gov. of Colorado" would do nicely. Lamm's main argument is that ethnic, religious and linguistic diversity have all proven to be exceedingly dangerous to the unity of states. I agree. I doubt anyone who loves this Republic of ours and who gives the matter any serious thought could disagree. Academics and politicians who advocate policies like bi-lingual education are playing with matches in a powder house. Further, our society obviously pays a stiff economic overhead dealing with all this diversity. That said, all this hoorah over immigration seems over done and mean spirited to me. It's not only liberal politicians and academics who like to play with matches. Like it or not, by an order of magnitude America is the most diverse state in modern history. A healthy dollop of mutual respect and forbearance is both desirable and necessary. This Republic of ours is the most efficient assimilation machine in the history of mankind. Just relax, give it two or three generations, and presto! instant Americans, just with currently unfashionable last names. Quote