Palm Springs Weekend Experience

[Guest jonthomas]

Hey guys,

Since the other site is still not working, can anyone share some fun/exciting stories at the gathering in Palm Springs last weekend? Did a lot of people attended this year?

I read that there were around 9 escorts, who were they?

Did you guys have a measure up competition on who has the biggest dick? I wonder who won. The pool party must be a blast.

It's exciting to hear your fun stories . . .

[Guest jackhammer91406]

Hey guys,

Since the other site is still not working, can anyone share some fun/exciting stories at the gathering in Palm Springs last weekend? Did a lot of people attended this year?

I read that there were around 9 escorts, who were they?

Did you guys have a measure up competition on who has the biggest dick? I wonder who won. The pool party must be a blast.

It's exciting to hear your fun stories . . .

You know, there seems to be such a strong anti Daddy's sentiment here, that I don't feel comfortable sharing the details of this past weekend here. i used to feel welcome here, but lately not so much.

So I'll let it go at that.

[Guest jonthomas]

You know, there seems to be such a strong anti Daddy's sentiment here, that I don't feel comfortable sharing the details of this past weekend here. i used to feel welcome here, but lately not so much.

So I'll let it go at that.

I think it's quite unfair to generalize the sentiment of all posters here and on the message center of daddy's as well. Just because there are few bad apples, a number of us who visit both sites suffer the consequence. It's high time that we, who don't do anything bad in both sites, not be prejudiced because of other people's actions.

Both sites are beneficial to all of us because it gives us good information. Just because there are other posters who makes the others feel unwelcome doesn't mean you are not welcome here, jackhammer91406.

Again, Daddy has a valid point why he shut down the other site, so the rest of us who visit that site and this site, has no other recourse but to visit this site to get some helpful and interesting information. Why is it that we who don't do unruly things get victimize by the few who are unruly?

[Guest jackhammer91406]

I think it's quite unfair to generalize the sentiment of all posters here and on the message center of daddy's as well. Just because there are few bad apples, a number of us who visit both sites suffer the consequence. It's high time that we, who don't do anything bad in both sites, not be prejudiced because of other people's actions.

Both sites are beneficial to all of us because it gives us good information. Just because there are other posters who makes the others feel unwelcome doesn't mean you are not welcome here, jackhammer91406.

Again, Daddy has a valid point why he shut down the other site, so the rest of us who visit that site and this site, has no other recourse but to visit this site to get some helpful and interesting information. Why is it that we who don't do unruly things get victimize by the few who are unruly?

I have long felt that there was plenty of reason to have multiple places to interact and have tried to participate in this forum. But lately here, since the shutdown of the other site, I have watched threads appear which denigrate posters at the other site as mean girls and then talk about how civil everyone is over here.. I haven't seen any attempt to point out that some really unkind things have been said here about the other site and it's owner and some moderators all the while claiming to be very nice and cordial over here. None of the admin or moderators here have pointed out the duplicity of that behavior or that there really isn't a bit of difference between posting hate threads here and what those hate threads complain about the site over "there". Am I supposed to pretend that those things weren't written? Or that they don't apply to me as a regular poster at the other site?? There seems to be plenty of "mean" to go around.

As for your honest question about this past weekend. it was a lot of fun. There were more than 9 escorts and a fair amount of "playing around". Someone else may feel more comfortable sharing more, but that's about it for me.

[Guest jonthomas]

I have long felt that there was plenty of reason to have multiple places to interact and have tried to participate in this forum. But lately here, since the shutdown of the other site, I have watched threads appear which denigrate posters at the other site as mean girls and then talk about how civil everyone is over here.. I haven't seen any attempt to point out that some really unkind things have been said here about the other site and it's owner and some moderators all the while claiming to be very nice and cordial over here. None of the admin or moderators here have pointed out the duplicity of that behavior or that there really isn't a bit of difference between posting hate threads here and what those hate threads complain about the site over "there". Am I supposed to pretend that those things weren't written? Or that they don't apply to me as a regular poster at the other site?? There seems to be plenty of "mean" to go around.

As for your honest question about this past weekend. it was a lot of fun. There were more than 9 escorts and a fair amount of "playing around". Someone else may feel more comfortable sharing more, but that's about it for me.

I agree with you. There shouldn't be double standards or duplicity . . .

I was curious who were the escorts who attended and was there a measuring size competition and who might have won if there was? The phone photo contest I heard from the other thread sounded fun. Anyway, its up to anybody else who was there and is willing to share with us the fun experiences last weekend . . .

If you are gonna search this forum, a discussion of the palm springs weekend in 2008 was talked about here as well . . . and some people shared about the experience.

[TotallyOz]

You know, there seems to be such a strong anti Daddy's sentiment here, that I don't feel comfortable sharing the details of this past weekend here. i used to feel welcome here, but lately not so much.

So I'll let it go at that.

Jackhammer, I am not sure where you see all this anti-daddy comments. There is one thread that we have allowed to let go but it has been edited and many posts deleted because they were in such poor tastes. In that thread, not one Moderator Alert has been sent by anyone. I have kept tabs on it and delete and edited when I felt necessary. If there was something there that should not have been there, someone should have let us know. I do not know all the intricacies of the other site and often the names and games so there are many things that I miss. That is when we rely on members to let us know something gets to personal or violated one of the rules.

In the thread currently live, there are many issues that people needed to get off their chest. To simply close it would have caused even more reaction and over reaction.

Daddy chose to close the message board for 2 weeks. It is his site and his prerogative to do so. He seems to see himself as the Daddy of the site and members as the children. Having may nieces and nephews that I often have to deal with; one of the best solutions for bad behavior is to give them a time out. Children respond well to that and IMHO is one of the best forms of “punishment” and to get their mind straight. The problem with the board is that the members are not children. They are adults and often-strong willed adults at that. When they are “punished” they need to vent. I know when I get into something that pisses me off; I want to talk about it.

I did not see many of the threads as being anti-daddy. But, perhaps I am so far removed from his site to see this. If you are with him in Palm Springs this weekend, perhaps you are too close to the situation and take offense when it was not intended. Perhaps it is somewhere in the middle for both of us.

But, please for anyone who sees a post that is inappropriate, hit the report post button and let us know. We will discuss it and take appropriate action. I am not a mind reader and have not gotten one report this entire time. If you keep up with my posts, I am in Rio this week and have been having quite a fun time. I do read all the posts but often miss things and just skim over them. I’ll try to be more careful in my readings but I can’t promise that if I have a cutie next to me that is standing nude and waiting for sex. I will respond to any Reported Posts threads and discuss with moderators. Just hit the button to let us know.

We have tried to make a site where all are welcome and feel comfortable and Jackhammer, if you feel we have not done this for you, then I apologize. But, at the same time you need to let us know if anything comes along that is inappropriate.

[BiBottomBoy]

I personally like the way this was handled here.

I had no interest in the Daddy debate so I was simply able to ignore the one thread that was clearly labeled as being a Daddy debate/potential flame fest.

If the comments had leaked over onto other threads then it would have bothered me, but it didn't.

I have no problem with people having a forum to bitch about things they want to bitch about as long as the forum is clearly labeled (which it was) so that I can ignore it.

My feeling is simply banning threads that have the potential to be trollville would simply build up resentment.

[Lucky]

Obviously I feel welcome enough to post here, but the question on my mind is who is jonthomas and why does he feel entitled to be told the events of something which was, after all, a private party? When you go to a party, you usually tell your friends about it, and, if there are strangers around, you can choose or not to let them hear too. But when the stranger comes up and demands to know what the party was like, why would I tell him?

In this case, jonthomas has never posted here and has not identified himself s a poster at Hooville. So my response is, we had a great time, maybe next year you can come see for yourself. That's really all he needs to know, isn't it?

As for the others here, we all know that it was a Hooville event. We respect that this is a separate website, interested rightly in growing on its own merits, and that there is no need to bring Hooville matters over here. Just because Hooville is shut down doesn't mean that we have a right to use this site as our place to carry on Hooville business. A joke here and there, a thread for people who need to vent, those are all fine, but I respect that this site is its own, and I have no idea why someone would use his first post to ask about this event. He never showed any interest before.

[BiBottomBoy]

Maybe he was curious about the event and if there site was down, he figured this is the only place that would fill him in.

Again, I'm really not that interested in the debate, though I do find the strong feelings interesting in a sociological way.

Let's all just get along.

[caeron]

I'm one of the people who said the other site was rude. I used to participate there, I don't any longer. I don't think there's anything rude in stating such an opinion.

But perhaps you were referring to several of the posts that laid the blame on the moderator(s)?

[TownsendPLocke]

You know, there seems to be such a strong anti Daddy's sentiment here, that I don't feel comfortable sharing the details of this past weekend here. i used to feel welcome here, but lately not so much.

So I'll let it go at that.

Jackhammer-I for one do welcome YOUR participation here at MER.

And so far I have yet to see a single post here that would prove contrary to this.

So rest assured-your contributions are welcome here.

If certain posters are not fond of "other sites"that should have no bearing on your participation here-as you are neither owner nor a moderator of that "other site"While your loyalty to your friends from the other site is commendable THIS is another site(roundabout logic-but you hopefully know where I am going with this )to which you can contribute should you want to.

So-again-I welcome you.

The door is open to you,a welcome mat is on the floor,make of this what you will.

[TownsendPLocke]

And Lucky I do hope you will share the video of the Jonas Brothers frolicking naked in your hot tub-that woukd be a most welcome contribution to MER

[Guest epigonos]

For what it is worth, which is NOT one hell of a lot, here is the opinion of someone who post on BOTH sites.

1. I really don’t see that the posters on these two sites are all that different. I also get weary hearing the constant litany from some posters here about HOW NICE everybody is here as compared to those on Daddy’s site. In my, not so humble, opinion “It just ain’t so!!!!!

2. The Palm Springs Event developed out of Hooboy’s/Daddy’s site. I have attended for, at least, the last three years and have always had a great time. If the guys who host the event choose to initiate a thread regarding the event here or any place else for that matter, it is in my opinion, their choice and their choice alone to do so. Until they do so I, for one, will keep my mouth shut regarding details.

3. If any of you guys are really that interested in the Palm Springs Event you might want to consider reading and joining Daddy’s Forum when it comes back up. That way you can participate next year.

[Guest jackhammer91406]

Jackhammer-I for one do welcome YOUR participation here at MER.

And so far I have yet to see a single post here that would prove contrary to this.

So rest assured-your contributions are welcome here.

If certain posters are not fond of "other sites"that should have no bearing on your participation here-as you are neither owner nor a moderator of that "other site"While your loyalty to your friends from the other site is commendable THIS is another site(roundabout logic-but you hopefully know where I am going with this )to which you can contribute should you want to.

So-again-I welcome you.

The door is open to you,a welcome mat is on the floor,make of this what you will.

TO, thanks for the remarks and I hope you have a great time in RIO. IT would seem from my experience that it is almost impossible to not have a good time in RIO.

TPL, thank you for the welcome.

Many of the guys here know me and I don't consider myself a mean girl at all, but have often winced when I have seen that reference used here ( more than once and in more than one thread) to describe the posters at the other site. When I see it, it's hard not to take it personally whether I am too close to the issue or not. In the time I have participated here I have tried to keep a civil tongue in my head, follow the rules of this site and tried to stay on point with whatever thread I was responding to or starting and not involve "stuff" from the other site.

[Buddy2]

Why is the party such a big secret?

I am not trying to keep an argument going, but the party was held on the west coast. Even those who live relatively near Palm Springs but have full-time jobs or other commitments might not have been able to make it.

I know that wasn't the intent, but it seems that you have to be wealthy or retired to be part of the 'in'

crowd (or live in Palm Springs).

Just something to think about.

[Guest BewareofNick]

You know, there seems to be such a strong anti Daddy's sentiment here, that I don't feel comfortable sharing the details of this past weekend here. i used to feel welcome here, but lately not so much.

So I'll let it go at that.

JH, not sure why you are identifying with Daddy, but the anti-daddy sentiment here is more of an anti-deej sentiment I think than anything else. You are certainly valued and welcomed here.

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

I am neither wealthy or retired, but I attended the party.. An open invitation was extended. Those who wanted to attend simply contacted Lucky and were invited. Those who chose to do otherwise didnt attend. It was that simple. And yes, a good time was enjoyed by all who did attend.

[Guest jonthomas]

I was suppose to attend the palm springs gathering last year and in fact Lucky posted an invitation to everyone here as well, unfortunately due to conflict in schedule with work (as I get assigned to represent the company in a business conference), I wasn't able to go. For this year, which came a bit much earlier than last year, there was a conflict in schedule again when this time my schedule was free the rest of the weekends of February . . . so what is it for me to do? I really would have love to go and made new friends and acquaintances, Lucky I heard is a gracious host and the other guy who hosts the pool party also. Hopefully, I get to come and be invited next year (again depending on my work schedule)

The thread - Sunny and 60 in Chicago, 56 and raining in Palm Springs - was where I took off to start this post.

Well, my post had good intentions of knowing how the party went and regretting the lost opportunity of meeting 9 escorts at one time, I imagine it must be a fun party, I was wondering if the escorts in attendance were my type. You know, the palm springs gathering is becoming a must attend party for any gay man out there who frequent the message center.

If I turned out to be transgressing on someone's private party then I'm sorry. Perhaps I am not welcome to attend such event and so does the rest of other guys here.

There must be really a deep seated anger among posters here and posters there when in fact both forums shouldn't be competing with one another, because at the end of the day, both are good sources of information, both are helpful to all of us.

So my question is why do we always try to put each other down, and be suspicious of one another? Aren't we all in the same boat here of wanting to be with escorts? Aren't we all gay men out here? Daddy had a valid point on why he shut down the other message center because it is really infuriating to see the fighting, the selfishness, the backstabbing, and all the negative things, when in fact all of us should be positive and look forward and have camaraderie with one another. And this site is not immune to that and some members think that this is better than the other, when in fact both are just equal and the same. We are all in the same boat, and we keep destroying ourselves. Perhaps that is the dilemma of getting old and being gay - we tend to become more self centered, selfish and immature than grow old and be wise, understanding and mature, and open to everyone. I'm not pointing fingers to anyone, but I share daddy's feelings.

Lucky, I respect your wish on not to tell the story of what transpired in the gathering in Palm Springs. It is your prerogative and same with the others who participated. I am no longer interested to learn of what happened even if I regret of not being able to attend.

This would be my last post here and I shall be just looking around and not step up anymore as a new poster because I think we new posters are not really welcome, here and in the message center because the old guards think this is there kingdom and we aren't allowed to ask anything, when in fact there is no malice to such questioning.

I have no ill feelings to anyone but just venting out my disgust with what is happening, when in fact the two forums should be our outlet. Daddy, if you get to read it, I salute you for standing up and I respect your decision if you do not open it anymore. Lucky, I respect your prerogative of not sharing what transpired in the event last weekend, it's your party and your friends. To all the posters here, and to daddys reviews, peace to all of you and hopefully we can all change for the good.

[Guest jonthomas]

Sorry for the outburst. I just feel frustrated not being able to go to the message center and read what's going on there, which has been part of my habit even if I don't post there.

Now that I posted here, I don't like the feeling of not being welcome to ask about the gathering at Palm Springs (because I do go to the message center and read about it but not a poster) because I did planned to go but the circumstances didn't permit me to go. I had no malice at all in asking what transpired and there should be nothing suspicious about it just because it is my first post. I know that I have not introduced myself and I might be a stranger to the host or hosts, but is it wrong to ask on what happened in the gathering? I know that it is still the prerogative of the attendees and the hosts to tell what happened, and that makes us readers here want to know what we have been missing in not being able to attend.

I'm sorry lucky, I just feel frustrated about not knowing what's going on at hooville I really am . . . it has been a community for all of us to share and swap stories and not being able to go was a bummer. I can't take a leave now that the economy has tank down and I don't want to lose my job now that I'm nearing retirement.

This is all just my frustration. I hope you all don't mind.

[caeron]

I have no personal animosity towards the other site. I was a member there for years. I just got tired of what I view as the sniping that goes on. Maybe this place will end up that way and I"ll get tired of it too.

As some posters have said here, they enjoy the witty repartee. I posted why I didn't enjoy it. Different strokes. I wasn't on the receiving end of much of it, so I'm not invested over it. Perhaps other posters here who got into it more are.

I don't think you can have that kind of conversation though, and then complain when some people develop hard feelings about it. If that's what you want, suck it up when people call you mean girls and the like.

[Guest jackhammer91406]

I don't think you can have that kind of conversation though, and then complain when some people develop hard feelings about it. If that's what you want, suck it up when people call you mean girls and the like.

Well, that's cool, and I accept the criticism. You're free to feel that way and it's one of the advantages of an internet forum. When you know someone in the real world, you are less likely to take shots at them because you have met and have a context for what they write in a forum.

As for the poster who started this thread, I have mixed feelings about your last two posts, but am sorry if you decide to no longer participate here or there. While it is true that I do not recognize your name and have not met you, my reluctance to discuss the party in specific terms has nothing to do with you. I think I said earlier that I have tried to respect the separation of the two sites. Also, it was not my party. I was not the host. I will say that it is a shame you couldn't make it either year as I am sure you would have had fun. I know the men of this site have had outings to meet up in the Real World and seem to have enjoyed their meetings. And if only wealthy men were invited to these parties whether this site or the other, I would have NEVER been able to attend one. So to the original poster, do not be discouraged and please try to make plans to attend next year. I am sure one of the 11 escorts who attended this would have been your type.

For future , let me encourage you to try and meet guys who have a common interest from these boards. It is the single greatest reward I have received from participating beginning with Hooboy's original vision.

I thank him and the owners and moderators of both of these sites for their gifts to me and the work they put in making it possible for me to have contact with guys who are like me.

Their work and determination are a constant blessing to me.

[BiBottomBoy]

Can we please come up with a more creative insult than "Mean girl?"

I propose:

"Tuna eater."

"Breeder Bastard"

"Tom, Dick and Hairy."

"Limpy McDicksoft"

"Pussy Prowler"

"Fag Hag Fucker"

"Bitchy Baby"

"Salami Sucker"

"Slit Sticker"

"Nellie"

"Pelosi"

"A Heather" (Yes, you have to be under 40 to get this one.)

"Ramstein"

"Winger Fan."

I'm willing to hear other suggestions.

[TotallyOz]

This would be my last post here and I shall be just looking around and not step up anymore as a new poster because I think we new posters are not really welcome, here and in the message center because the old guards think this is there kingdom and we aren't allowed to ask anything, when in fact there is no malice to such questioning.

I hope this is not your last post. If people question you as a new poster it is because of this one post and people did overreact to your question. It was a simple enough question and it seems to me no harm was intended. If people don't want to discuss their gatherings, that is up to them. Not a big deal for me and should not be for you. You asked, you were told it was private and should not be discussed on the board. Like you, I think a little silly but we were not there and if those there don't want to discuss, let them save the discussion.

You are welcome to post here at anytime and are most welcome.

1. I really don’t see that the posters on these two sites are all that different. I also get weary hearing the constant litany from some posters here about HOW NICE everybody is here as compared to those on Daddy’s site. In my, not so humble, opinion “It just ain’t so!!!!!

Each to his own opinion I guess. I happen to disagree with you but I don't visit the other site regularly any longer.

2. The Palm Springs Event developed out of Hooboy’s/Daddy’s site.

Just for clarification, Daddy's site is NOT Hooboy's site. Two totally different sites and companies.

For future , let me encourage you to try and meet guys who have a common interest from these boards. It is the single greatest reward I have received from participating beginning with Hooboy's original vision.

I could not agree with you more Jackhammer. I have met some amazing people on both sites that I consider wonderful people and great friends. It is the common bond that binds us. We often are birds of a feather.

For those of you who have not attended an event like the one Lucky hosted, I suggest that you give it a try when an offer is extended. They are always great fun and events like these will allow you to meet some amazing people.

I have no personal animosity towards the other site. I was a member there for years. I just got tired of what I view as the sniping that goes on. Maybe this place will end up that way and I"ll get tired of it too.

I hope to goodness this is NOT the case and we will work hard to do everything possible not to let it go that way. To date, IMHO, this site has been civil and cordial and welcoming. I expect it to stay that way or else it is a waste of my time, effort and money. This site gets a lot of personal attention from me as I love the content, I love hookers and I love the communication with others in the forum. I hope it stays this way for a long time to come.

[BiBottomBoy]

Oz,

You are always the voice of reason.

[Guest eastburbguy]

Obviously I feel welcome enough to post here, but the question on my mind is who is jonthomas and why does he feel entitled to be told the events of something which was, after all, a private party? When you go to a party, you usually tell your friends about it, and, if there are strangers around, you can choose or not to let them hear too. But when the stranger comes up and demands to know what the party was like, why would I tell him?

In this case, jonthomas has never posted here and has not identified himself s a poster at Hooville. So my response is, we had a great time, maybe next year you can come see for yourself. That's really all he needs to know, isn't it?

As for the others here, we all know that it was a Hooville event. We respect that this is a separate website, interested rightly in growing on its own merits, and that there is no need to bring Hooville matters over here. Just because Hooville is shut down doesn't mean that we have a right to use this site as our place to carry on Hooville business. A joke here and there, a thread for people who need to vent, those are all fine, but I respect that this site is its own, and I have no idea why someone would use his first post to ask about this event. He never showed any interest before.

Ah, yes, those very elusive party details.

Lemme see. Where could I possibly go online to Real All About It? :rolleyes:

Drama without necessity is merely self-gratifying. Mystery with no mystery is vacuous at best.