Brazilian Saunas

[Menaughty]

Are wait times  for rooms at 117 really bad or does it only depend on the day?

[SolaceSoul]

7 hours ago, Menaughty said:

Are wait times  for rooms at 117 really bad or does it only depend on the day?

It depends on the day. It’s worse on Tuesdays, which is Free Cabin Day. Other days, there usually isn’t much of a wait. 

[Latbear4blk]

I never had to wait in a Brazilian sauna on regular days. On free cabin days, I never had to wait more than 30'.

I am not sure whether or nor is relevant, but I have never been in Rio during carnival or Christmas/NYE. I did visit Salvador for holidays, over there I never waited in a sauna. 

[Menaughty]

How long are the sessions in Lagoa, 117 and 202?

Like for example in Thermas BCN its usually 30 mins.

[floridarob]

1 hour ago, Menaughty said:

How long are the sessions in Lagoa, 117 and 202?

Like for example in Thermas BCN its usually 30 mins.

I haven't been to a cabin in a sauna in a long time...once upon a time they were 1 hr rentals then reduced to 45 mins no idea what they are now. But the session could be until you get off which could be double charged for the cabin....it depends on what you negotiate with the guy.

I like to go back to my apt or out to eat , drink talk etc....then sex. Usually takes 3 hrs and this they know when going with me. Is why I like SP more, guys tend to live closer and not like rio, hours away which makes their getting home more complicated.

 

[davet]

21 hours ago, floridarob said:

I like to go back to my apt or out to eat , drink talk etc....then sex.

Are the guys on the clock for social add-ons like this?

[floridarob]

1 hour ago, davet said:

Are the guys on the clock for social add-ons like this?

It's usually for the price of a programa outside the sauna...200 reis, plus whatever food/drinks

not all can do it, but most will...Saturdays are the most difficult, many make plans to go to parties with friends, bf or gf

[Menaughty]

One thing i noticed is after reading the Brazil posts here, is that everyone got a room in the sauna after they agreed on a garoto.

My question here is, can I not just take room keys in the beginning and then search for garoto?

Atleast thats what I did in Thermas Barcelona. I would get the locker & room keys at the same time.

[SolaceSoul]

16 hours ago, floridarob said:

It's usually for the price of a programa outside the sauna...200 reis, plus whatever food/drinks

not all can do it, but most will...Saturdays are the most difficult, many make plans to go to parties with friends, bf or gf

Maybe it works that way with the average-looking guy of the street type, “boys next door” (which I already know from your past statements that’s your type, so no explanation required) or twinks, but I know VERY few of the machos / muscle boys (my type) who would agree to spend time wining and dining, then socializing at the apartment — or even worse, staying overnight!, followed by sexo — with a client for the same price of a 30-40 minute sauna programa. That’s almost unheard of. I am not going to say they’re not out there in that category, but it would be a very rare bird. 

[SolaceSoul]

7 hours ago, Menaughty said:

One thing i noticed is after reading the Brazil posts here, is that everyone got a room in the sauna after they agreed on a garoto.

My question here is, can I not just take room keys in the beginning and then search for garoto?

Atleast thats what I did in Thermas Barcelona. I would get the locker & room keys at the same time.

If you do that, and the management slows you to do so, you will pay from the moment you take the keys to the moment you return them.

But normally, the management wants to record both parties going in and out each room (using locker key numbers), for safety and damages purposes. 

[Latbear4blk]

11 hours ago, Menaughty said:

One thing i noticed is after reading the Brazil posts here, is that everyone got a room in the sauna after they agreed on a garoto.

My question here is, can I not just take room keys in the beginning and then search for garoto?

Atleast thats what I did in Thermas Barcelona. I would get the locker & room keys at the same time.

I've never been to Thermas Barcelona, but according to what you say they follow the same model as bathhouses in NYC. Over there, they have a menu with different admission fees granting you different access levels. You can pay for a fee that grants you a room and a locker for the entire time of your visit.

The model in Brazilian saunas is different. They have a flat fee that gives you access to a locker and all the public areas for as long as you stay. The rooms can only be rented for 30' times slots. (about 30, I do not remember exactly)

Theoretically, you could keep your key and the establishment would bill you the fee for each time slot with no differential discount. But this is only if the management allows you to keep the keys. I never heard of anyone doing so in Brazil. It is just a different business model that frames different sauna cultures.

[floridarob]

8 hours ago, SolaceSoul said:

I am not going to say they’re not out there in that category, but it would be a very rare bird. 

Have you ever asked?

I know we all have our own type, I don't see my type as average, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...but when I see the Muscle guys, I might as well be looking at a female.....no interest.

Works out well, we'll never be out for the same guy 😄

[SolaceSoul]

34 minutes ago, floridarob said:

Have you ever asked?

I know we all have our own type, I don't see my type as average, beauty is in the eye of the beholder...but when I see the Muscle guys, I might as well be looking at a female.....no interest.

Works out well, we'll never be out for the same guy 😄 

Well, yeah, I ask all the time. Like you, over time, meaning well over a decade at this point, I’ve developed a preference for dates ending up outside the saunas — mainly because I don’t really like the suites and I don’t like clock-watching. 

And I just don’t find a whole lot of my preferred type who’d take your proposed deal at or around that rate. Even if you just throw in a nice meal, which we as clients consider an add-on not garotos, and then get to the meat of the matter (time spent at your apartment, plus sexy time), the bare minimum rate is going to definitely be more than a R $200 rate (right now, about what these kinds of guys are asking for 30-40 minutes inside the sauna). Some of them will accept a package rate that’s higher and includes all time spent, but some will want to start and stop the clock at all time spent — no matter if it’s just forks going in mouths, or dicks.

Yeah, the type of garotos that you go after are never on my radar, either. I am fairly strict in my attraction, and almost never waver (because, thankfully, it’s not necessary in Brazil!). But your type of garotos approach me a lot, and some of my client buddies are into the same, so I know that the ones I’m into do like to place themselves in a (slightly) higher price tier than the “boy next door types” — most likely because it’s what the market will bear for them, not just an ego trip.

I know only one (now former) sauna garoto who I deal with who would gladly take only R $200 for a night from me — but that always came with some complications. The rest are in a higher category — double, triple, and upwards. And to be honest, I’d feel some kind of way for only giving someone who is working for their living what amounts to $38 USD for a full night of their time. 

[Mavica]

16 hours ago, Menaughty said:

One thing i noticed is after reading the Brazil posts here, is that everyone got a room in the sauna after they agreed on a garoto.  ... My question here is, can I not just take room keys in the beginning and then search for garoto?

My experience has been that it's the garoto who takes my wrist identification bracelet to the cashier or desk attendant (at 117, as an example) to get the room assignment.  I've always been present to nod my head to the desk attendant for the charge to be added to my account and paid at the end of the visit.  Rooms can be in short supply, so I don't imagine a situation where I'd be given a key and then take whatever amount of time it takes to find someone I'm attracted to.

[xpaulo]

On 3/2/2023 at 3:58 PM, Latbear4blk said:

I did visit Salvador

Did you enjoy the visit to Salvador? For me the city is fascinating, but I got so many warnings from locals on the streets and in shops, I never felt comfortable. Had a good time in one of the saunas, beautiful men and mostly pleasant to be with. One tried to bully me into giving him more money and he made me nervous. I just kept telling myself he won't assault me in the sauna if it's a regular source of income for him. He was incredibly beautiful physically, but actually seemed sinister. From Salvador I went to Boipeba south of the city. It was the offseason and almost all the tourist places were closed. The only close to regular vehicle was a jeep owned by the police. Some ATVs and a farm tractor that towed a wagon... full of drunk young city fellows one afternoon catcalling the young women on the street, people were laughing at them so I don't think they were offensive. A few hours later it came back, they were all more or less passed out in the wagon. It was kind of surreal. These golden young men in shorts and sandals sort of piled on top of each other. This was just before the start of the 2014 World Cup and pre-tournament exhibition games had started. As I walked by one of the small homes, the front door, just a few feet from the street was open and I saw the whole family, mom, dad and maybe three kids squished into a tiny couch, watching a game. I was raised in the Canadian version of that working class family and everybody was poor in those days and we did everything together as a family, including watching Hockey Night in Canada on Saturday evenings, us kids all squished into the couch. Mom always made hamburgers and it was the only time we were allowed to eat in the living room. It's funny as I move into old age how a lot of old memories are coming back.

[Riobard]

18 hours ago, Menaughty said:

One thing i noticed is after reading the Brazil posts here, is that everyone got a room in the sauna after they agreed on a garoto.

My question here is, can I not just take room keys in the beginning and then search for garoto?

Atleast thats what I did in Thermas Barcelona. I would get the locker & room keys at the same time.

It might be more advantageous at Thermas, say, you don’t mind dropping 20 Euros hourly for the privilege of holding the upscale room for your personal use, and you like the toilet and sink amenities as well as surround mirrors, and you are going to very busily get down with the trade. If you book 3 hours there the cost equivalency would theoretically yield you about 4 consecutive hours at 117, certainly a manageable expense all considering, particularly if you reserve just a few hours. Having been to both establishments frequently I would say “Why bother?”, as generally pay-as-you-go and availability at 117 works fine. In contrast, I try to get the VIP suite in BCN for its features, but only when a deal is sealed with an escort. In May the selection was poor. The environment quality varies little from room to room in Rio, unlike Thermas where you might get stuck with a free but ‘crap’ lockable cubicle if you had not ponied up for a room within the add-on cost tier. 

[Latbear4blk]

1 hour ago, xpaulo said:

Did you enjoy the visit to Salvador?

I did. I stayed for two weeks, and got sick for about 5 days. On my healthy days I had an amazing time exploring the city and the three local saunas. 

My reports should be here somewhere. 

[floridarob]

5 hours ago, SolaceSoul said:

$38 USD for a full night of their time. 

I don't think of USD in Brasil...I live in Mexico and think in MXN. I think of THB when in Thailand, otherwise we should be paying a couple of hundred USD, no 😉

[scott456]

3 hours ago, floridarob said:

I don't think of USD in Brasil...I live in Mexico and think in MXN. I think of THB when in Thailand, otherwise we should be paying a couple of hundred USD, no 😉

But the GPs do when they know you are from the U.S.

One GP even converted R200 to USD for me right on the spot, and told me his price was very cheap.

[floridarob]

1 hour ago, scott456 said:

But the GPs do when they know you are from the U.S.

I tell them I'm from Mexico, that throws them off their stride.....

[SolaceSoul]

9 hours ago, scott456 said:

But the GPs do when they know you are from the U.S.

One GP even converted R200 to USD for me right on the spot, and told me his price was very cheap.

Exactly.

A common phrase I hear from garotos is: “that is not a lot of money for you, but for me, it is a lot.”

[SolaceSoul]

7 hours ago, floridarob said:

I tell them I'm from Mexico, that throws them off their stride.....

To a Brazilian, any Mexican who can afford to travel to Rio on vacation is loaded. 

[floridarob]

1 hour ago, SolaceSoul said:

A common phrase I hear from garotos is: “that is not a lot of money for you, but for me, it is a lot.”

Because of your type no doubt

56 minutes ago, SolaceSoul said:

To a Brazilian, any Mexican who can afford to travel to Rio on vacation is loaded. 

Nope....In Cuba, yes.

[xpaulo]

18 hours ago, Latbear4blk said:

and got sick for about 5 days

Just happened to me in Colombia, was having the most perfect holiday possible (so many big dicks on hot men) when I got salmonella and it wouldn't go away. Two weeks in hotel beds and another week at home. I finally got some antibiotic pills and it's cleared up.

[scott456]

2 hours ago, floridarob said:

Because of your type no doubt

Nope....In Cuba, yes.

All you Spanish speaking people...