Brazilian Saunas

[intlslim7]

I can only. dream of a Brazilian sauna right now, sigh.

[Streptomy]

I was there last in 2014, when I stayed a couple of months.  I wish I'd gone more often to the saunas...

[Badboy81]

Will let you gents know how they are at the end of this month when Im in Rio...

[Latbear4blk]

I will be there in April. Only a travel ban would stop me. As @RockHardNYC said somewhere else,

"When it comes to devoted cock suckers, very little stands in their way."

[simplyme69]

Thanks for sharing the info.

[Sunchaser12]

Hi! 
newbie here, I’ve read the threads here, and have some questions:

1) I find the guys on garotoscomlocal and netgay and olimpos super cute, are similar types at saunas and do they also work there?

2) does anyone take their own padlock for the lockers in the saunas?

3) what is safer, taxis or Uber in Rio? 

4) does anyone catch up eith other expats and non locals to socialise in groups or only with locals? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! And

5) does anyone know if drey is still around and organising trips? I remember his other site and he was always super helpful! 

[redxs]

4 hours ago, Sunchaser12 said:

Hi! 
newbie here, I’ve read the threads here, and have some questions:

1) I find the guys on garotoscomlocal and netgay and olimpos super cute, are similar types at saunas and do they also work there?

2) does anyone take their own padlock for the lockers in the saunas?

3) what is safer, taxis or Uber in Rio? 

4) does anyone catch up eith other expats and non locals to socialise in groups or only with locals? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! And

5) does anyone know if drey is still around and organising trips? I remember his other site and he was always super helpful! 

1 many of the guys online work in the saunas and some do not. many guys in the sauna don't work online. sauna prices are a little cheaper than online prices. sauna's are a little safer too - as guys have to show ID and will generally be personally known to saunas staff. plus, you can check guys out before meeting them.

2 I don't. don't think the lockers would allow you to use one though as key lock mechanism is inside the door.

3 I prefer Uber these days.

4 I've met up with a few guys and try and keep in touch and have made a few friends. Post your dates on here. 

5 Never heard of this guy - who is he?

[Tomcal]

1 hour ago, redxs said:

  5 hours ago, Sunchaser12 said:

Hi! 
newbie here, I’ve read the threads here, and have some questions:

1) I find the guys on garotoscomlocal and netgay and olimpos super cute, are similar types at saunas and do they also work there?

2) does anyone take their own padlock for the lockers in the saunas?

3) what is safer, taxis or Uber in Rio? 

4) does anyone catch up eith other expats and non locals to socialise in groups or only with locals? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! And

5) does anyone know if drey is still around and organising trips? I remember his other site and he was always super helpful! 

1) Many of the guys online also work at either 202 on Wednesday or 117 on Tuesday which are the busiest nights at each sauna and yes you will find the same type if not the exact person at the saunas!

2) No, I probably have spent in excess of 500 nights in Brazilian saunas and never had a problem. A few guys over the years said they had something taken but with cameras in all the locker rooms and the traffic in them I don’t think that should be a concern. If it is, keep your wallet and phone etc with you in a drawstring bag! 

3) Either. Again no problem but I use Uber almost exclusively because of cost and convenience

4) Yes it is done, years ago before smart phones and when Corujinhas the infamous hustler restaurant was open it was common for the Americans to meet up after going to the saunas.

5) He hasn’t been involved in that or been to Brazil for a number of years! 
 

 

Edited March 29, 2020 by tomcal

[Lucky]

I remember fun times at Corujinhas...all thanks to tomcal for bringing me there the first time!

[Sunchaser12]

Thanks Tomcal and Redxs soooo much! Appreciate it... I was meant to travel but am in lockdown in NZ after leaving Sydney to travel.

Tomcal as a seasoned expert and someone who has been so many times, I am keen to know your personal experience around finding a genuine connection with true affection with any of the garotos? I’m not naive but it would be nice if there is real friendship with romance, and natural tesao not simply something transactional where the guy is mostly straight, needs straight porn and viagra or has to close his eyes to think of someone else to get make it happen. Have you had anything long term or even relationships form out of this? 

[Badboy81]

@Sunchaser12  I can't wait to hear Tom's answer to this but the question is WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR?

And what do you look like?

If your goal is to find a lover or a boyfriend in Rio....Probably is not going to happen unless you are youngish...very attractive and can speak Portuguese...

If you are looking for a sugar daddy or boyfriend experience...you can most definitely get that....

It is going to be transactional all day long....now you may be able to develop a "friendship" with some of the guys you meet in Brazil but you will be paying for meals or lodging or evenings out to party or simply giving them money....UNLESS you are young and hot and attractive and they just want to hang out with you...

You are asking a question that has been answered time and time again within this forum and based on how you positioned that question, you are naive and a little delusional....

You want to have a good time in a country that offers that for a price...don't go into it thinking that one of the guys is going to fall in love with you because you are such a nice guy because you will simply be looked at as a walking ATM...

@Tomcal I can't wait for you to answer this again...Smile

[Sunchaser12]

Haha!  I take your point badboy... I am fit, healthy, active, handsome, 42, and lived in other parts of Brazil about a decade ago for about 18 months, and I speak Portuguese quite well... I also know that having lived there I formed strong kinships as friends with guys non-sexually that I still speak to today, and yet in other respects I also know the culture well enough to know that you can be seen as a $$$ sign, a walking ATM and a gringo, too. 
 

For this reason, I will also be using scruff, jack’d and tinder for just non-paying encounters too. 

I am realistic, pragmatic and certainly open to having fun but I guess there is a part of me that is looking for something a little more longer lasting. Don’t get me wrong, I know of guys here in Australia who have dated and are in longer term relationships with dude who they met when they hired them originally as hookers, so anything is possible however improbable! 

it’s good getting some grounded perspectives... thank you 

[Streptomy]

[this is in reaction to badboy's reply - in the meantime I saw sunchaser's followup but I'll leave my reply as another point of view]

That's a bit pessimistic, or rather, you just have to look in the right places.  In my late 50s, not in especially good shape, I had zero problems hooking up at Aterro do Flamengo with fit guys of all ages who just wanted sex, not money.  This is the spot: https://pt-br.facebook.com/pages/category/Company/Pegação-Gay-Aterro-do-Flamengo-1476666512655123/

And zero problems setting a return date.  I don't know whether that's the kind of thing you're looking for, but I thought I'd add a different perspective.

I did once give a generous cash present to one of the guys I liked, but he neither asked for it nor expected it - I just felt for him as he was a hardworking construction guy saving up for the down payment on a shack somewhere.  

It's true that I speak Portuguese fluently (though I look like a gringo).  But if you bother to learn some, or if you already have some Spanish, you may very well get lucky.

Just be careful not to get mugged.  And don't try to do more than making out at the cruising spot (or maybe oral, but even that is risky as the police make their rounds).  Instead go to a motel.

There are other good spots all over.  Google Pegação gay.

Edited March 29, 2020 by Streptomy

[Sunchaser12]

Oh nice, appreciate that streptomy. I hear ya, and yes, it makes sense.

[Badboy81]

50 minutes ago, Streptomy said:

[this is in reaction to badboy's reply - in the meantime I saw sunchaser's followup but I'll leave my reply as another point of view]

That's a bit pessimistic, or rather, you just have to look in the right places.  In my late 50s, not in especially good shape, I had zero problems hooking up at Aterro do Flamengo with fit guys of all ages who just wanted sex, not money.  This is the spot: https://pt-br.facebook.com/pages/category/Company/Pegação-Gay-Aterro-do-Flamengo-1476666512655123/

And zero problems setting a return date.  I don't know whether that's the kind of thing you're looking for, but I thought I'd add a different perspective.

I did once give a generous cash present to one of the guys I liked, but he neither asked for it nor expected it - I just felt for him as he was a hardworking construction guy saving up for the down payment on a shack somewhere.  

It's true that I speak Portuguese fluently (though I look like a gringo).  But if you bother to learn some, or if you already have some Spanish, you may very well get lucky.

Just be careful not to get mugged.  And don't try to do more than making out at the cruising spot (or maybe oral, but even that is risky as the police make their rounds).  Instead go to a motel.

There are other good spots all over.  Google Pegação gay.

I don't think he is looking for a hook up versus an actual relationship or something more substantial...

[Badboy81]

1 hour ago, Sunchaser12 said:

Haha!  I take your point badboy... I am fit, healthy, active, handsome, 42, and lived in other parts of Brazil about a decade ago for about 18 months, and I speak Portuguese quite well... I also know that having lived there I formed strong kinships as friends with guys non-sexually that I still speak to today, and yet in other respects I also know the culture well enough to know that you can be seen as a $$$ sign, a walking ATM and a gringo, too. 
 

For this reason, I will also be using scruff, jack’d and tinder for just non-paying encounters too. 

I am realistic, pragmatic and certainly open to having fun but I guess there is a part of me that is looking for something a little more longer lasting. Don’t get me wrong, I know of guys here in Australia who have dated and are in longer term relationships with dude who they met when they hired them originally as hookers, so anything is possible however improbable! 

it’s good getting some grounded perspectives... thank you 

Then that is a big difference...if you are looking for age comparable guys then you might be able to find that...

I'm sure there are a ton of attractive 30 and 40 years old in Rio who are not looking for money but maybe a boyfriend....

Your best chance of meeting guys like this would be in professional settings, upscale locales around Rio...not too sure if you will find something substantial off the apps either since a lot of the guys on the apps are looking for money OR a good time...

You knowing Portuguese is also useful...

[SolaceSoul]

5 hours ago, Sunchaser12 said:

I am fit, healthy, active, handsome, 42...

In Brazil, even the 42-year-old, healthy, fit, active and handsome gringos pay for garotos.

[Sunchaser12]

Thanks Badboy and Solace!!!!  

[Latbear4blk]

11 hours ago, Badboy81 said:

Then that is a big difference...if you are looking for age comparable guys then you might be able to find that...

I'm sure there are a ton of attractive 30 and 40 years old in Rio who are not looking for money but maybe a boyfriend....

Your best chance of meeting guys like this would be in professional settings, upscale locales around Rio...not too sure if you will find something substantial off the apps either since a lot of the guys on the apps are looking for money OR a good time...

You knowing Portuguese is also useful...

Grindr also offers plenty of guys in their 20s looking for coronas (older guys), no money involved. 

[SolaceSoul]

^ *coroas, not coronas.

”Coroa” is a slang term that, depending on the context in which it is used, when used by itself often means “older sugar daddy”, similar but not quite as long-term or expensive as the term “patrocínador” (sponsor). Since “velho” simply means “older man”, “coroa” is a slang term, often used pejoratively but sometimes not, that can be used for either “daddy” / “mommy” or (more likely) “sugar daddy” / “sugar mama”. It can be used derisively at times, but if used positively, it’s usually used with those one is quite familiar with — like with a live-in uncle or jokingly with an older workout partner, but not usually with a stranger. Again, it’s all about context, and without really knowing both a good deal of modern, Brazilian Portuguese slang (spoken by millennials and younger) AND the context in which it is being said and used, it’s really unwise to broadly state that when a younger brasileiro states they are looking for “coroas”, that he isn’t looking for money (or gifts, or someone to pick up the tab), and isn’t presuming that he is much more likely to get those things from an older guy than someone closer to his own age. 

Of course, in some cases, “coroa” could just refer to a man who is older in age and appearance. It’s all contextual, and being able to discern and pick up on spoken and unspoken clues is important here. 

Edited March 30, 2020 by SolaceSoul

[Tomcal]

19 hours ago, Sunchaser12 said:

Tomcal as a seasoned expert and someone who has been so many times, I am keen to know your personal experience around finding a genuine connection with true affection with any of the garotos? I’m not naive but it would be nice if there is real friendship with romance, and natural tesao not simply something transactional where the guy is mostly straight, needs straight porn and viagra or has to close his eyes to think of someone else to get make it happen. Have you had anything long term or even relationships form out of this? 

 Is it possible? Yes anything is possible! Is it probable? NO!   
It not going to happen if you are going to Brazil for a week or two once a year! If you are not going back at a minimum every 3 months or so for a couple weeks or living there, then you are just another lonely guy looking for love in the wrong place!

i understand as guys hit their 40’s and 50’s feeling the need to be loved and/or someone special in his life! but the chances of that happening where one person is 25 yrs + older and is the one with the income/career and the other is attractive in his 20’s sauna guy...everyone understands the “dance” especially the sauna guys!  
this was told to me by a Brazilian Sauna owner on my 2nd trip to Rio in early 2002 “remember, once a sauna boy always a sauna boy! It makes no difference if they worked there a month or a year you will always represent a $$ figure to them!  I have found out he was so right! Guy in professional and semi-professional positions ate looking for a way out of Brazil and a American or European or Australian is their idea of fast tracking their situation!  I know 3 Americans over the years who thought their situation with their guy was different! They were all wrong! The same thing is going on right now with Venezuelan guys and wealthier Mexicans! Again I know of severaljust in the city of Mérida where I have a home!

Go to Brazil enjoy the sex fall in lust but not in love!  Btw the above happened to me as well, I had to learn the hard way! Brazil is a great little place and I have a lot of friends there and you’ve may find love there it just won’t be in the sauna!  Good luck!

[Sunchaser12]

Tomcal, seriously, you answered that perfectly and authoritatively, and your words resonated very deeply - thank you.

I was extremely wary about being someone’s ticket to freedom, as have been that previously if only for friends in Brazil with whom I developed strong bonds and the deepest of affection, and you are right in that I am looking for something more like love and with substance and it can be someone older - around my age - and not in the saunas. 
 

I was looking to spend 2-3 months there this time to actually immerse myself more fully into the culture and see what can be nurtured. Anyways, who knows! 
 

Thanks again - funnily, enough, I am even more interested in hanging out with and meeting like-minded people like yourself and others on this forum! Haha 

take care and thanks for responding so clearly and eloquently! 

[Badboy81]

28 minutes ago, Sunchaser12 said:

Tomcal, seriously, you answered that perfectly and authoritatively, and your words resonated very deeply - thank you.

I was extremely wary about being someone’s ticket to freedom, as have been that previously if only for friends in Brazil with whom I developed strong bonds and the deepest of affection, and you are right in that I am looking for something more like love and with substance and it can be someone older - around my age - and not in the saunas. 
 

I was looking to spend 2-3 months there this time to actually immerse myself more fully into the culture and see what can be nurtured. Anyways, who knows! 
 

Thanks again - funnily, enough, I am even more interested in hanging out with and meeting like-minded people like yourself and others on this forum! Haha 

take care and thanks for responding so clearly and eloquently! 

So you wanted somebody to respond to you in a eloquent way saying the same thing that has been answered 50 million times in the forum

When you end up a tragic case of I told you so, please report back on that...

You basically asked a question that you knew the answer to...

And NO I don't understand getting older and wanting sincere, real love with somebody half your age...I live in reality and not a fantasy world....

This whole post just made me understand that there are a lot of dummies in the world, even more...

You can not be serious about finding love in the saunas with men/boys half your age who are WORKING...WHAT THE .....Nevermind

Its clear that some of you guys were never loved enough as kids and haven't learned self love as an adult...You can not be that naive OR thirsty....

Brazil AINT where you go to find love....No matter how good looking, how rich, how nice, how special YOU think you are

[Badboy81]

3 hours ago, Tomcal said:

 Is it possible? Yes anything is possible! Is it probable? NO!   
It not going to happen if you are going to Brazil for a week or two once a year! If you are not going back at a minimum every 3 months or so for a couple weeks or living there, then you are just another lonely guy looking for love in the wrong place!

i understand as guys hit their 40’s and 50’s feeling the need to be loved and/or someone special in his life! but the chances of that happening where one person is 25 yrs + older and is the one with the income/career and the other is attractive in his 20’s sauna guy...everyone understands the “dance” especially the sauna guys!  
this was told to me by a Brazilian Sauna owner on my 2nd trip to Rio in early 2002 “remember, once a sauna boy always a sauna boy! It makes no difference if they worked there a month or a year you will always represent a $$ figure to them!  I have found out he was so right! Guy in professional and semi-professional positions ate looking for a way out of Brazil and a American or European or Australian is their idea of fast tracking their situation!  I know 3 Americans over the years who thought their situation with their guy was different! They were all wrong! The same thing is going on right now with Venezuelan guys and wealthier Mexicans! Again I know of severaljust in the city of Mérida where I have a home!

Go to Brazil enjoy the sex fall in lust but not in love!  Btw the above happened to me as well, I had to learn the hard way! Brazil is a great little place and I have a lot of friends there and you’ve may find love there it just won’t be in the sauna!  Good luck!

You have answered this question to SOOO many guys....You should save this response and just repost if to the next sucker who asks you this....SMILE

[Sunchaser12]

Hey badboy! It’s all good, it was just the way he expressed himself that made it clear to me on another level is all. I guess we all get things differently in our own way, and I am thankful to those who have responded. I was just asking a question out of interest, and it’s difficult in a forum of short burst commentary to explain the totality of ones interests, experience, thought process or personality, and easy to see only a one-dimensional perspective of someone and presume you know the rest. Like many, I’ve had lots of tough lessons and hard knocks - it’s just life and life has a way of making us humble, and it makes you wiser and more aware, but I also choose to live with a tender heart and an open mind while being discerning and street wise. Anyways, thanks for your input.