"The Other Site"seems to be having some trouble

[TownsendPLocke]

Went for my daily visit to "the other site"and was greeted by this message

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I am not going to stand in the middle and watch my friends tear themselves to shreds. Given the horrible times that we're all sharing right now, we should be supporting each other in anyway possible. We should be tolerent not vindictive.

There are at least six whisper and/or public vendettas going on. Let me know if and when the Message Center is more important than your hatred and we'll go back online.

For those that need reminding: "This is my house; I set the rules, I interpret the rules, and I enforce rules. You do not. If you can't handle this; Don't come into my house".

Daddy"

Hmmmmmm-well I know there are lurkers here who post/moderate/own 'the other site"what i would like to say is "I told you so"-but that is less than construtive.

There has been a total lack of good judgement on the part of the owner of that site.He employs a "caretaker"who is one of the snarkiest posters on the site-this guy is actually the reason I am know longer welcome at that site.He should have been fired long ago and his posting privallages terminated.

Posters are allowed far too much leniency in being not only nasty to each other,but slandering the working boys the site concerns itself with.

It all starts at the top my friends.If you have an owner who is disdainful of his patrons,hires a manager who feels the same-then you are headed to the trash heap of failed enterprise.

My best wishes to the good posters of the"other site"and I would like to welcome those new readers to this site.

And I would like to thank Totally Oz ,Tampa Yankee and the good posters here at Male Escort review for keeping this site a lively,interesting,civil anf friendly place for those of us no longer welcome/no longer wishing to participate at that"other site".

[caeron]

Here here on the civility bit.

I used to participate over there years ago, but the just continuous nastiness trying to masquerade as wit left me cold.

[Guest lurkerspeaks]

I have been a visitor/poster on both sites...I have watched while the feuds come and go "over there"..I have been amazed that certain people are allowed to continue posting.

But I must admit, I owe much gratitude to the "GOOD" posters over there. If it were not for them, I would never have discovered Montreal. If it were not for them, I would never have made the trip to Rio de Janiero. Not to mention, if it was not for them, I would not have met some great gentlemen during my travels.

My hope is that the man behind the curtain, the great and mighty Daddy, will realize that you do not "punish everyone for the sins of a few"....Banish those who don't play nicely but keep the playground open for those who are civil.. There is too much GOOD information on those boards to erase them completely.

My second hope is that maybe the boards here will become a little more active with good, pertinent information so others who have never tasted the fruits of far away places may be convinced to take the plunge.

[OneFinger]

I have been a visitor/poster on both sites...I have watched while the feuds come and go "over there"..I have been amazed that certain people are allowed to continue posting.

I have to totally agree with you on that one. I'm also surprised at that multiple IDs are allowed. I "thought" that was done away with years ago but recently learned it was not really being enforced. That's a shame.

...Banish those who don't play nicely but keep the playground open for those who are civil.. There is too much GOOD information on those boards to erase them completely.

Here, here!! Many times I have used their search feature to find a previous thread that had info that I wanted. Plus, I really like the format of their forum and the "look" / functionality of the software.

My second hope is that maybe the boards here will become a little more active with good, pertinent information so others who have never tasted the fruits of far away places may be convinced to take the plunge.

I, too, have been amazed that this site has doesn't seem to have the same level of participation. I'd really hate to see either site go away and hope both places continue to provide a valuable service that I enjoy.

[TownsendPLocke]

lurkerspeaks,as one of the many nice fellas I have met through these sites I second your wishes.

However-I fear the "tree"from which this fruit(who ya callin a fruit ) comes suffers from root rot and is being tended by a very bad gardner.

More participation by the "nice girls" and new posterson this site is the only hope.

[Guest cary]

...i was recently tempoarily banned from that site after a spat with a popular poster who bullies with humor...last night, another spat was brewing (not involving me) and daddy gave everyone a time out....i, too, am suprised that this site is underused...i hope to contimue with both sites....i recognize some ot the posters from here are the same guys who post, or have posted, there and assume i may be recognizable.....i hope i am welcome

[AdamSmith]

I have to totally agree with you on that one. I'm also surprised at that multiple IDs are allowed. I "thought" that was done away with years ago but recently learned it was not really being enforced. That's a shame.

I second all the remarks in this thread. And agree especially that I was a bit flabbergasted the other day when Daddy posted that multiple IDs are okay with him. He qualified it a little bit, but I just absolutely don't buy it. Hate to keep thumping the tub about this, but the only authenticity these online communities can have, it seems to me, starts with each person being who he/she is, and not someone else.

[Guest epigonos]

I too am one of the guys who posts on both sites. In fact I go back on the other site to the day of HooBoy. If some of you are overwhelmed by how nasty things get over there nowadays you should have been around when Woodlawn and several others were posting a number of years ago. In many ways HooBoy was far more tolerant than Daddy. I personally know of two instances where disgruntled former clients took out after two different escorts and Daddy would have none of it. To his credit he erased both threads and banned both guys.

Frankly I get a little weary of constantly hearing “let’s be nice childrenâ€. A steady diet of Karo Syrup and honey gets VERY old and VERY boring VERY QUICKLY. In my NOT very humble opinion some good old fashioned heated debate and rancor adds interest to a site. Most of us, around here, are grown adults and if we haven’t learned to cope with being confronted its high time we learned. I, for one, have always subscribed to the old adage, “if you can’t stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchenâ€.

Now I have in the past and will continue in the future to try to get some provocative threads going on this site. I am amazed that things haven’t taken off by now but I guess it will just take more time.

[lookin]

Perhaps Daddy could add a Needle Exchange Forum where folks who like that sort of thing can go for that sort of thing.

[Guest tomcal]

I stopped posting on the other site in 2005, after primarily posting in the Latin American forum, I was often surprised at how a what was a informative post could generate sarcastic/caustic and out right nasty remarks. I made up my mind to not stay engaged with the site. On the positieve side I had met some very good friends thru the site who I still travel with through out the year. Last year while in Montreal with one of my Brazil travel buddies I ran unexpectedly into my friend Townsend and also met Lutherspeaks. I debated becoming involved on a site again. Then after periodically reading and watching this site, I have been impressed with the information and civility here. So hopefully I will have information to share here in the future if the readers feel there is a need to know more about the scene in Brazil. I usuually go there 4 times a year and after 40+ trips there since 2001 am still enamoured with it! Tomcal

Tomcal, I have really missed your posts. You always provided an informative and entertaining read about Brazil. Please know that you are always welcome here.

TY

[TownsendPLocke]

I welcome my good friend TomCal-your posts regarding your traveling play sessions will be most welcome here.

"Frankly I get a little weary of constantly hearing “let’s be nice childrenâ€. A steady diet of Karo Syrup and honey gets VERY old and VERY boring VERY QUICKLY. In my NOT very humble opinion some good old fashioned heated debate and rancor adds interest to a site. Most of us, around here, are grown adults and if we haven’t learned to cope with being confronted its high time we learned. I, for one, have always subscribed to the old adage, “if you can’t stand the heat, get the fuck out of the kitchenâ€.

To my other friend Epigonos,no one is suggesting that this be a Tupperware party-but I welcome the civility and fun we have with each other on this site without all the snarkiness/bitterness/nastiness that is allowed to go unchecked on "The other site"

This kitchen can generate another kind of heat if we work at it-one that all of us would appriciate

Opens far too many cans of vipers-I disagree strongly on this.

[Guest Barr1965]

I stopped posting on the other site in 2005, after primarily posting in the Latin American forum, I was often surprised at how a what was a informative post could generate sarcastic/caustic and out right nasty remarks. I made up my mind to not stay engaged with the site. On the positieve side I had met some very good friends thru the site who I still travel with through out the year. Last year while in Montreal with one of my Brazil travel buddies I ran unexpectedly into my friend Townsend and also met Lutherspeaks. I debated becoming involved on a site again. Then after periodically reading and watching this site, I have been impressed with the information and civility here. So hopefully I will have information to share here in the future if the readers feel there is a need to know more about the scene in Brazil. I usuually go there 4 times a year and after 40+ trips there since 2001 am still enamoured with it! Tomcal

After reading most of your post from the "other side" about Brazil and talking to you about it, I was convince to go there. And you were right. I have and still enjoy going to Brazil. And I am sure your contribution here about South America will be an added bonus and will convince other people to take a trip to the place we enjoy and treasure going all the time.

[BigK]

I stopped posting on the other site in 2005, after primarily posting in the Latin American forum, I was often surprised at how a what was a informative post could generate sarcastic/caustic and out right nasty remarks. I made up my mind to not stay engaged with the site. On the positieve side I had met some very good friends thru the site who I still travel with through out the year. Last year while in Montreal with one of my Brazil travel buddies I ran unexpectedly into my friend Townsend and also met Lutherspeaks. I debated becoming involved on a site again. Then after periodically reading and watching this site, I have been impressed with the information and civility here. So hopefully I will have information to share here in the future if the readers feel there is a need to know more about the scene in Brazil. I usuually go there 4 times a year and after 40+ trips there since 2001 am still enamoured with it! Tomcal

I hope you join us on a regular basis Tomcal. I always enjoyed your posts over there and you were always trying to be very helpful. In fact, I had thought that you had moved to Brazil for 1/2 the year. Maybe that's what your 4 trips add up too.

Anyway...Welcome.

[marcanthony]

There once was a landowner who wasn't sure what to do with his land, so he decided to build a huge greenhouse on his land for plants and other such things. He wasn't sure how to make this profitable since he knew really nothing about growing things, so he figured out this really cool business model where he would offer his greenhouse for free for plant lovers everywhere to come bring their plants in and look at other people's plants. He was sure that agricultural/floral advertisers would put ads up in his greenhouse if he could show them how many plant lovers visited his greenhouse everyday. And lo and behold, it worked!

People from all over the area brought lots of beautiful plants to put in this free greenhouse, and would spend time there cultivating the plants and learning about other types of plants. It became a very busy and popular place, and advertisers were eager to put up their ads there. Everyone was happy, but as always, people had opinions about how the greenhouse should be run and how their plants should be cared for. However, the owner told them that he owned the greenhouse; he was not charging them rent for their plants; and if they didn't like the place, they should get the hell out.

Things would get worse from time to time. The plant lovers would quarrel about space, conditions, plant care, and sometimes it got personal. The owner got tired of this nonsense, and one day, without warning, he closed his greenhouse. None of the plant lovers, even those who were not involved in any of the goings on, could enjoy any plants, let alone even their own. People missed their plants, and talking to others about agriculture and such, but it was closed.

Some plant lovers who always thought they were positive contributing citizens, aggravated by how they felt their contributions were valued, decided that they would not return to this greenhouse, even when it did open. They couldn't understand how the greenhouse owner, though the owner of the real estate, couldn't understand that the value of the place was community grown. So they looked for a different greenhouse to house their next batch of plants, and gardened happily there.

Eventually the original greenhouse opened again, and quickly bustled again. But over time, similar issues developed, and once again, just as had happened before, the greenhouse closed abruptly one day, and the occupants were shocked.

Those in the new, smaller greenhouse on the other hill peered over and wondered why those occupants of the original greenhouse were surprised.

[KYTOP]

I stopped posting on the other site in 2005, after primarily posting in the Latin American forum, I was often surprised at how a what was a informative post could generate sarcastic/caustic and out right nasty remarks. I made up my mind to not stay engaged with the site. On the positieve side I had met some very good friends thru the site who I still travel with through out the year. Last year while in Montreal with one of my Brazil travel buddies I ran unexpectedly into my friend Townsend and also met Lutherspeaks. I debated becoming involved on a site again. Then after periodically reading and watching this site, I have been impressed with the information and civility here. So hopefully I will have information to share here in the future if the readers feel there is a need to know more about the scene in Brazil. I usuually go there 4 times a year and after 40+ trips there since 2001 am still enamoured with it! Tomcal

I truly hope you decide to start posting your valuable information here. Your old columns got me to want to visit Rio, and to fall in love with Brazil. Please add your comments here, they are sorely wanted and honestly needed.

Thanks so much KY

[Guest FourAces]

Went for my daily visit to "the other site"and was greeted by this message

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LOL you're too funny. Looks like someone is working hard for that trip ... whatever.

You all know that daddy will open the message center again. So maybe take a gulp while you're gloating. This is nothing new and HB had done the same thing.

And keep in mind the MC here and there serves a small percent of people compared to the review side. Where over there thats also all the ad money.

OZ does a great job here. He's an amazing businessman. But neither site is brain surgery to run.

As for Townsend why so surprised anyway? Daddy has said several times he approves the use of more than one name as did HB. The difference is he didn't approve it for people to abuse each other. The concept behind it was for privacy.

Anyway, when I'm home or have the time I tend to visit this site a bit more than the other. In all honesty the business is not what it was, here in the states. So if either of these sites were to close my life would not be impacted all that much. Though I hate to see a good person like OZ lose money

btw: I see the best blog int he world http://www.ricoreporthq.com is closed .. yet no thread about that Townie?

[Guest BewareofNick]

There has been a total lack of good judgement on the part of the owner of that site.He employs a "caretaker"who is one of the snarkiest posters on the site-this guy is actually the reason I am know longer welcome at that site.He should have been fired long ago and his posting privallages terminated.

A few years back, when I was banned from the site, there was an event that we referred to as "The Great Meltdown". The "caretaker" that you refer to was the cause of the Meltdown and went on a rampage after many of the regular posters there including me. After being the cause, he then banned several posters and tried to spin things so that others would think he was solving the problem rather than being the one who created it.

To get back at him, I posted a link to his personal website. This was an address that he had made public on more than one occasion, but in typical "caretaker" fashion, he tried to make me the bad guy. Supposedly, he even filed a police report that I was stalking him. Of course, nothing ever came of it because no rational person could even remotely claim i was stalking him.

I still visit there, and have asked for posting privileges back, but I am routinely ignored.

Conway and I used to go back and forth rather viciously there, but here its been unusually pleasant interacting with him.

[Guest BewareofNick]

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LOL you're too funny. Looks like someone is working hard for that trip ... whatever.

You all know that daddy will open the message center again. So maybe take a gulp while you're gloating. This is nothing new and HB had done the same thing.

And keep in mind the MC here and there serves a small percent of people compared to the review side. Where over there thats also all the ad money.

OZ does a great job here. He's an amazing businessman. But neither site is brain surgery to run.

As for Townsend why so surprised anyway? Daddy has said several times he approves the use of more than one name as did HB. The difference is he didn't approve it for people to abuse each other. The concept behind it was for privacy.

Anyway, when I'm home or haev the time I tend to visit this site a bit more than the other. In all honesty the business is not what it was, here in the states. So if either of these sites were to close my life would not be impacted all that much. Though I hate to see a good person like OZ lose money

btw: I see the best blog int he world http://www.ricoreporthq.com is closed .. yet no thread about that Townie?

Wow. This is a blast from the past. How are the tables in Vegas?

[Guest FourAces]

There once was a landowner who wasn't sure what to do with his land, so he decided to build a huge greenhouse on his land for plants and other such things. He wasn't sure how to make this profitable since he knew really nothing about growing things, so he figured out this really cool business model where he would offer his greenhouse for free for plant lovers everywhere to come bring their plants in and look at other people's plants. He was sure that agricultural/floral advertisers would put ads up in his greenhouse if he could show them how many plant lovers visited his greenhouse everyday. And lo and behold, it worked!

People from all over the area brought lots of beautiful plants to put in this free greenhouse, and would spend time there cultivating the plants and learning about other types of plants. It became a very busy and popular place, and advertisers were eager to put up their ads there. Everyone was happy, but as always, people had opinions about how the greenhouse should be run and how their plants should be cared for. However, the owner told them that he owned the greenhouse; he was not charging them rent for their plants; and if they didn't like the place, they should get the hell out.

Things would get worse from time to time. The plant lovers would quarrel about space, conditions, plant care, and sometimes it got personal. The owner got tired of this nonsense, and one day, without warning, he closed his greenhouse. None of the plant lovers, even those who were not involved in any of the goings on, could enjoy any plants, let alone even their own. People missed their plants, and talking to others about agriculture and such, but it was closed.

Some plant lovers who always thought they were positive contributing citizens, aggravated by how they felt their contributions were valued, decided that they would not return to this greenhouse, even when it did open. They couldn't understand how the greenhouse owner, though the owner of the real estate, couldn't understand that the value of the place was community grown. So they looked for a different greenhouse to house their next batch of plants, and gardened happily there.

Eventually the original greenhouse opened again, and quickly bustled again. But over time, similar issues developed, and once again, just as had happened before, the greenhouse closed abruptly one day, and the occupants were shocked.

Those in the new, smaller greenhouse on the other hill peered over and wondered why those occupants of the original greenhouse were surprised.

Marc you know I absolutely love you but apparently that weed in Montreal is stronger than you think

[Guest FourAces]

Wow. This is a blast from the past. How are the tables in Vegas?

I've been doing really well. Actually I tend to travel the circuit than stay in one city like the old days. The WPT and WSOP keep me busy playing the cash games all year long. This year if all goes well I plan to head down under for the Aussie Millions ... but just a plan at this point not sure if I will be able to do so.

Hope all is well with you.

[Guest BewareofNick]

I've been doing really well. Actually I tend to travel the circuit than stay in one city like the old days. The WPT and WSOP keep me busy playing the cash games all year long. This year if all goes well I plan to head down under for the Aussie Millions ... but just a plan at this point not sure if I will be able to do so.

Hope all is well with you.

I is. Have you ever played on any of the TV games that they show now?

[Guest FourAces]

I is. Have you ever played on any of the TV games that they show now?

No, My biggest tournament cash was a WPT event several years ago but it wasn't the final table. In fact I was near the buble knocked out in 11th place .. I think I won $70,000. But again that was my biggest cash ever in a tourney.

I actually play cash games and once in a while tournaments. The reason for following the tournaments is they bring many bad players ... so its easier to take advantage of that situation than to play with true pros in LV or LA.

But if I ever do make it to the HD screen my ego is such I will post it everywhere lol.

[caeron]

I think you can disagree and have productive debate without being nasty.

I would like to think of this as a party at someone's house. If someone says something you disagree with, you can say so, and why, without resorting to the equivalent of "well look at what cunt lips just said."

The gay community has a history of bitchy queens, so it's easy to start down the sloop. But on the internet, no one can ever see the smile on your face, so a little bitchiness begets more bitchiness until the whole forum is rolling around the virtual parking lot trying to scratch each other's eyes out with lee press-on nails.

It isn't pretty.

[marcanthony]

Marc you know I absolutely love you but apparently that weed in Montreal is stronger than you think

From what I hear, they grow weed in greenhouses there... maybe even rent free!

[Guest BewareofNick]

The Message Center will be down for about two weeks. That'll give me a chance to regain prospective, go to Palm Springs, "Hang out", Talk to old friends, Make new friends, and maybe even have a laugh or two.

Well, there you have it. You can read the rest on the front page of the other site.