TotallyOz Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 News that McCain has taken over the lead in the popular vote has been covered a great deal. From what I have read, it seems that the state to state breakdown of the states gives the electoral college vote to Obama if the vote were today. This is a very interested election and I think it will determine the course of things for this country for years to come. It is 55 days and counting! Quote
Guest EXPAT Posted September 10, 2008 Posted September 10, 2008 It is beyond me how anyone in this country could vote for another Republican. Fiscal irresponsibility is their mantra. Quote
Guest Conway Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 There is a Gallup Poll that indicates that McCain has opened up a 15 point lead among independent voters. That couldn't be good news to the Obama campaign. It seems to me that, in the past week, Obama has been running against Sarah Palin instead of John McCain. The "lipstick on a pig" snafu certainly isn't going to help him with the soccer mom contingent. Quote
Members TampaYankee Posted September 11, 2008 Members Posted September 11, 2008 I'm becoming doubtful that this election will turn on policies or truthful facts that form the body of legitimate political differences. If this week is any barometer, only personalities and emotions seem to count. Policy differences have been reduced to untruthful or half truthful slogans or sound bytes. Less important that what is said seems to be who is saying it. This week it ain't even the economy, stupid! Fortuantely the spineless MSM finally seems to be waking up to the silliness, lies and halftruths that has passed for political discourse the last ten days. Hopefully the electorate will sober up and approach this critical election with the serious deliberation it is due. Else we may be in for a very scary four years. A few weeks ago I went on a rant why I can no longer support the tarnished McCain who abandoned the Straight Talk Express and decent honorable politics in favor of Rovian lies and deceit. Andrew Sullivan makes the argument in his own prescient way: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_...ns-integri.html McCain's Integrity 10 Sep 2008 01:40 pm For me, this surreal moment - like the entire surrealism of the past ten days - is not really about Sarah Palin or Barack Obama or pigs or fish or lipstick. It's about John McCain. The one thing I always thought I knew about him is that he is a decent and honest person. When he knows, as every sane person must, that Obama did not in any conceivable sense mean that Sarah Palin is a pig, what did he do? Did he come out and say so and end this charade? Or did he acquiesce in and thereby enable the mindless Rovianism that is now the core feature of his campaign? So far, he has let us all down. My guess is he will continue to do so. And that decision, for my part, ends whatever respect I once had for him. On core moral issues, where this man knew what the right thing was, and had to pick between good and evil, he chose evil. When he knew that George W. Bush's war in Iraq was a fiasco and catastrophe, and before Donald Rumsfeld quit, McCain endorsed George W. Bush against his fellow Vietnam vet, John Kerry in 2004. By that decision, McCain lost any credibility that he can ever put country first. He put party first and his own career first ahead of what he knew was best for the country. And when the Senate and House voted overwhelmingly to condemn and end the torture regime of Bush and Cheney in 2006, McCain again had a clear choice between good and evil, and chose evil. He capitulated and enshrined torture as the policy of the United States, by allowing the CIA to use techniques as bad as and worse than the torture inflicted on him in Vietnam. He gave the war criminals in the White House retroactive immunity against the prosecution they so richly deserve. The enormity of this moral betrayal, this betrayal of his country's honor, has yet to sink in. But for my part, it now makes much more sense. He is not the man I thought he was. And when he had the chance to engage in a real and substantive debate against the most talented politician of the next generation in a fall campaign where vital issues are at stake, what did McCain do? He began his general campaign with a series of grotesque, trivial and absurd MTV-style attacks on Obama's virtues and implied disgusting things about his opponent's patriotism. And then, because he could see he was going to lose, ten days ago, he threw caution to the wind and with no vetting whatsoever, picked a woman who, by her decision to endure her own eight-month pregnancy of a Down Syndrome child in public, that he was going to reignite the culture war as a last stand against Obama. That's all that is happening right now: a massive bump in the enthusiasm of the Christianist base. This is pure Rove. Yes, McCain made a decision that revealed many appalling things about him. In the end, his final concern is not national security. No one who cares about national security would pick as vice-president someone who knows nothing about it as his replacement. No one who cares about this country's safety would gamble the security of the world on a total unknown because she polled well with the Christianist base. No person who truly believed that the surge was integral to this country's national security would pick as his veep candidate a woman who, so far as we can tell anything, opposed it at the time. McCain has demonstrated in the last two months that he does not have the character to be president of the United States. And that is why it is more important than ever to ensure that Barack Obama is the next president. The alternative is now unthinkable. And McCain - no one else - has proved it. Quote
Members Lucky Posted September 11, 2008 Members Posted September 11, 2008 I think most Republicans are hoping that McCain dies quickly after winning as they really want Palin running the show. He should carry extra protection whenever around her. Quote
AdamSmith Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 I think most Republicans are hoping that McCain dies quickly after winning Old smoking habit hurts McCain, prof says John McCain's smoking history and age indicate Sarah Palin would have as high as a 40 percent chance of becoming U.S. president, a university professor says. McCain, 72, a former smoker poised to become the Republican presidential nominee, has about a 20 percent of dying in office and a higher rate of disability, John Banzhaf, George Washington University professor, said Wednesday in a release. Palin, 44, McCain's running mate, is governor in Alaska. McCain's smoking history boosts his risk of dying from lung cancer by about 700 percent, and his risk of dying of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease also is greater, Banzhaf said. His age increases his odds of becoming disabled from conditions such as a stroke or Alzheimer's disease, which can impair judgment... http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/03/Old...98011220468650/ Odds 1-in-3 that McCain may not reach 80 Statistics indicate that men of Republican U.S. presidential candidate John McCain's age have a 1-in-3 chance of dying before age 80, actuaries say... http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/03/Odd...43431220456717/ Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 What baffles me is how many of my straight friends think Palin is hot. In fact, straight dudes wanting to fuck her may be entirely responsible for McCain's jump in the polls. This is only fair, of course, since Obama won the primaries because so many women in the democratic party want to fuck him. Quote
AdamSmith Posted September 14, 2008 Posted September 14, 2008 http://www.newsobserver.com/581/image_media/1217975.html Quote
TotallyOz Posted September 14, 2008 Author Posted September 14, 2008 This is only fair, of course, since Obama won the primaries because so many women in the democratic party want to fuck him. Want to fuck him, or want him to fuck them? I feel like we have all been fucked for 8 years. I am normally a 2 minute guy myself but 8 years? Damm! Quote