BiBottomBoy Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 I'm curious - when you guys are with an escort can you ever "tell" that they aren't "really gay" but just doing it for the money? If you can tell, does it bother you? Or is it more of a turn on? I'm just getting back into the idea of going to escorts (just out of a long term relationship, not ready to date, but would like more than a "back room" experience.) The last time I was single I used escorts in NYC and either by chance or whatever several times got the sense that the dudes were not primarily interested in men. The first time it sorta skeeved me out, but the second or third time it turned me on - the idea that I was "satisfying" a primarily straight dude was almost primal for me. Since then I've fantasized about finding that type of escort again, but wonder if I'm an oddball. Quote
Guest Conway Posted August 14, 2008 Posted August 14, 2008 I actually seek it out. I'm a believer in the Kinsey study of sexuality which says that non one is completely straight. Everyone has some degree of bisexuality minimally. To me, there is nothing that is quite as much a turn on as hooking up with a masculine acting jock type in his 20s . I've found that, with a little work on your part, maybe a couple of drinks, most are willing to be serviced all night long. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted August 15, 2008 Author Posted August 15, 2008 I actually seek it out. I'm a believer in the Kinsey study of sexuality which says that non one is completely straight. Everyone has some degree of bisexuality minimally.To me, there is nothing that is quite as much a turn on as hooking up with a masculine acting jock type in his 20s . I've found that, with a little work on your part, maybe a couple of drinks, most are willing to be serviced all night long. I feel the same way - and when it comes to male escorts there is something hot in knowing that they are pushing their natural kinsey scale. I think it helps that I'm a bottom when it comes to guys. If I was a top I'd feel a little weird, I think. But as long as I'm the one doing the sucking, I'm just happy to be be the one doing the servicing, even if I know they are closing their eyes and pretending I'm a chick. Quote
Members KYTOP Posted August 15, 2008 Members Posted August 15, 2008 I do not mind "Gay for Pay" as long as they are my type and that they do what I want them to do. I am turned off by any "str8" or bi escort that wants to talk about their girlfriend and how much they like pussy. If I am paying you to be GAY, then be GAY and leave the str8 shit someplace else. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted August 15, 2008 Author Posted August 15, 2008 I do not mind "Gay for Pay" as long as they are my type and that they do what I want them to do.I am turned off by any "str8" or bi escort that wants to talk about their girlfriend and how much they like pussy. If I am paying you to be GAY, then be GAY and leave the str8 shit someplace else. Yeah, the last thing I want to hear is them talking about pussy. For me it's when it's unstated - but you can tell that they are at least "bi" if not out and out straight when you aren't paying them and sucking their cocks that makes it hot for me. It's a subtle difference, but you can tell. But yeah, if they talk about the tuna tunnel I'm like "eww." Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 For me, it is neither a turn on or turn off. It is what it is. Escorts tend to have sex with those that they would not normally pick out of a crowd. To many, it is just a job and not a way to get off. As long as a client goes into this situation knowing this, the better off they will be. The escort is doing his job in making you happy and you should know that most likely they would not pick you up in a regular bar or club. Does that matter to me? No, but I am old and jaded and use to it by now. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted August 15, 2008 Author Posted August 15, 2008 For me, it is neither a turn on or turn off. It is what it is. Escorts tend to have sex with those that they would not normally pick out of a crowd. To many, it is just a job and not a way to get off. As long as a client goes into this situation knowing this, the better off they will be. The escort is doing his job in making you happy and you should know that most likely they would not pick you up in a regular bar or club. Does that matter to me? No, but I am old and jaded and use to it by now. See, for me, the idea that they wouldn't pick me if I wasn't paying is a turn on in itself. Getting something you shouldn't be able to get is always more fun than picking up something for free. Also, I love straight boys. Hope that doesn't sound awful. Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 15, 2008 Posted August 15, 2008 See, for me, the idea that they wouldn't pick me if I wasn't paying is a turn on in itself. Getting something you shouldn't be able to get is always more fun than picking up something for free. Also, I love straight boys. Hope that doesn't sound awful. I love Straight boys as well and it doesn't sound awful to me. But, I much prefer to spend my money on gay guys. Just makes me feel better for some reason. Not sure why. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted August 15, 2008 Author Posted August 15, 2008 I love Straight boys as well and it doesn't sound awful to me. But, I much prefer to spend my money on gay guys. Just makes me feel better for some reason. Not sure why. Do you top or bottom? If I was into topping I'd feel better about the guy being gay - because I'd really feel like I was violating him for money if he was straight. But since I bottom, I feel like it's less "intrusive" sexually for him. This lets me have my straight boy guilt free. It's like getting all the dudes I had crushes on in high school, even though they were a girl only zone. Quote
Members OneFinger Posted August 16, 2008 Members Posted August 16, 2008 Through the years I've had several encounters with guys who were primarily straight or bi. In one particular instance, I was 6 months into a "fuck buddy" relationship (non-escort) when he told me he was married. I had no clue!! I had significant guilt over that one because I've never wanted to interfere with someone in a committed relationship (either gay or straight). I have hired several "gay for pay" guys and have found it to be a real turn-on. But, like others have said, I don't want to hear about the girlfriend or the merits of muff-diving. Since I'm a top, I'm always amazed when these straight guys willingly offer up their ass to me and truly seem to enjoy getting pounded. I'm also turned on when the guys can take my cock in their mouth and not gag. In short, I guess the kind of "gay for pay" guys that I enjoy are those that are very interactive. I've hired a couple that were totally non-responsive and that didn't turn me on at all. I realize that enjoying gay sex may be an "act" that they've perfected. But, if they're willing to act then I'm willing to pay. Quote
Guest Conway Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 I've hired a couple that were totally non-responsive and that didn't turn me on at all. I realize that enjoying gay sex may be an "act" that they've perfected. But, if they're willing to act then I'm willing to pay. Ha! That's just paying for bad sex. I've had both gay and straight guys pull that on me. I hired a boy who I gave kind of a semi-warm review here a few years back. He and his agency claimed he was totally straight, didn't kiss, didn't bottom. He only topped. Once he arrived, I sweetened the escort fee just a bit in exchange for a little make out session. That evolved into a really hot session of me rimming him that was obviously driving him crazy. It wasn't very hard to get a yes, when I told him that I wanted to fuck him. He called me back two nights later and offered it up again for free. I declined. 'm from the school that says you don't pay escorts for sex. You pay them to leave (and leave you alone) afterwards. Quote
TotallyOz Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 I was a VERY regular at the Gaiety for many years. I had some great times there and most of the guys were Gay for Pay. On the rare occasion they got a gay boy, I had to take him. But, I took my fair share of straight ones as well. A few a week most weeks for a few years. Perhaps that is a bit over the top but I was having fun. It did not bother me in the least that they were not gay as I was having fun and they were enjoying taking my money. When the gay boys arrived, I did make sure I saw them as I usually had a better time with them. My favorites were Brad from Toronto or Montreal, Milo from Brazil and Jamie from Miami. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 He called me back two nights later and offered it up again for free. I declined. 'm from the school that says you don't pay escorts for sex. You pay them to leave (and leave you alone) afterwards. That would piss me off. I'm with you. The whole point of an escort is that you get what you want, when you want it and don't have to deal with them again. I'd be creeped in general at him calling. I thought the whole point was that they forget your name, location and number the second they take their cute asses out the door. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 Have you really had escorts talk to you about muff diving? If so - WTF? Through the years I've had several encounters with guys who were primarily straight or bi. In one particular instance, I was 6 months into a "fuck buddy" relationship (non-escort) when he told me he was married. I had no clue!!I had significant guilt over that one because I've never wanted to interfere with someone in a committed relationship (either gay or straight). I have hired several "gay for pay" guys and have found it to be a real turn-on. But, like others have said, I don't want to hear about the girlfriend or the merits of muff-diving. Since I'm a top, I'm always amazed when these straight guys willingly offer up their ass to me and truly seem to enjoy getting pounded. I'm also turned on when the guys can take my cock in their mouth and not gag. In short, I guess the kind of "gay for pay" guys that I enjoy are those that are very interactive. I've hired a couple that were totally non-responsive and that didn't turn me on at all. I realize that enjoying gay sex may be an "act" that they've perfected. But, if they're willing to act then I'm willing to pay. Quote
Guest StuCotts Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 When young, a lot hornier and a top, I did get it on with straights who panted to get their asses serviced. They tended to be johnny one-notes. Plus all the sessions involved an obligatory, elaborate song and dance to acknowledge their straightness. My hormones carried the day, but the bullshit invariably let my teeth on edge. That was no way to come down from a fuck. So the day came when I said : Enough! Never had cause to regret it. Much on the up side, that was the beginning of my long, rewarding journey to crotchety old mandom by perfecting my act as a crotchety young man. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 There is nothing quite as ironic as a dude who is swearing to you that he's straight while your cum is dripping out of his ass. When young, a lot hornier and a top, I did get it on with straights who panted to get their asses serviced. They tended to be johnny one-notes. Plus all the sessions involved an obligatory, elaborate song and dance to acknowledge their straightness. My hormones carried the day, but the bullshit invariably let my teeth on edge. That was no way to come down from a fuck. So the day came when I said : Enough! Never had cause to regret it.Much on the up side, that was the beginning of my long, rewarding journey to crotchety old mandom by perfecting my act as a crotchety young man. Quote
Members OneFinger Posted August 16, 2008 Members Posted August 16, 2008 Have you really had escorts talk to you about muff diving?If so - WTF? I found a brand new escort when in Detroit on business for several weeks. I'm almost positive that I was his first client. During our first meeting he was very nervous, afraid I was a cop, wanted to check out all the rooms in the apartment to make sure we were alone, etc.When we finally got down to business, he didn't have any problem with me giving him a blow job (he kept his eyes closed). But, he really freaked out when I rolled him over and started rimming his ass. It was obviously something he had never done. But he seemed to enjoy it and eventually started to relax. After about 10 minutes of me tonging his ass, he said "Wow, you seem to enjoy that as much as I eating my girlfriend's pussy." All action stopped immediately and I made it very clear that I never again wanted to hear him talk about his girlfriend or sexual encounters with women. He was very embarrassed, apologized, and the session continued. I ended up hiring him once a week for the next 8 weeks. Never again did he talk about women. His oral skills improved dramatically as he learned to give a proper blowjob. Although he made it clear at the first meeting that he wasn't a bottom, he did ask me to fuck him on our third session. It was difficult getting inside him. But, all future sessions included me topping him. The only thing that bothered me was hearing him squeal as I pounded his ass and he started cumming. I have very fond memories of the time we spent together. Quote
AdamSmith Posted August 16, 2008 Posted August 16, 2008 Although he made it clear at the first meeting that he wasn't a bottom, he did ask me to fuck him on our third session. It was difficult getting inside him. But, all future sessions included me topping him. The only thing that bothered me was hearing him squeal as I pounded his ass and he started cumming. I have very fond memories of the time we spent together. I take it he's no longer in the business? Otherwise, give! DTW is pretty much a waste land, far as I can tell. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted August 16, 2008 Author Posted August 16, 2008 I've heard that straight boys are often the most voracious bottoms possible once they realize they can do it and nobody will find out about it. The straight they are, the louder they squeal. I found a brand new escort when in Detroit on business for several weeks. I'm almost positive that I was his first client. During our first meeting he was very nervous, afraid I was a cop, wanted to check out all the rooms in the apartment to make sure we were alone, etc.When we finally got down to business, he didn't have any problem with me giving him a blow job (he kept his eyes closed). But, he really freaked out when I rolled him over and started rimming his ass. It was obviously something he had never done. But he seemed to enjoy it and eventually started to relax. After about 10 minutes of me tonging his ass, he said "Wow, you seem to enjoy that as much as I eating my girlfriend's pussy." All action stopped immediately and I made it very clear that I never again wanted to hear him talk about his girlfriend or sexual encounters with women. He was very embarrassed, apologized, and the session continued. I ended up hiring him once a week for the next 8 weeks. Never again did he talk about women. His oral skills improved dramatically as he learned to give a proper blowjob. Although he made it clear at the first meeting that he wasn't a bottom, he did ask me to fuck him on our third session. It was difficult getting inside him. But, all future sessions included me topping him. The only thing that bothered me was hearing him squeal as I pounded his ass and he started cumming. I have very fond memories of the time we spent together. Quote
Members OneFinger Posted August 17, 2008 Members Posted August 17, 2008 I take it he's no longer in the business? Otherwise, give! DTW is pretty much a waste land, far as I can tell. You're right, he's no longer working as an escort. And, I've got to agree with you that the Detroit area does not have a lot of options. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted August 18, 2008 Author Posted August 18, 2008 What about the squeal bothered you? You're right, he's no longer working as an escort. And, I've got to agree with you that the Detroit area does not have a lot of options. Quote
Members manticore Posted August 19, 2008 Members Posted August 19, 2008 "Everyone is at least a little bit bisexual" -- we believe this about the guys we want. But ourselves, we don't wanna hear a word about pussy. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted August 19, 2008 Author Posted August 19, 2008 "Everyone is at least a little bit bisexual" -- we believe this about the guys we want.But ourselves, we don't wanna hear a word about pussy. Eh, I'm homoflexible. Girls give bad head, but sometimes fucking a girl doggy style can be fun. It uses less lube. You just have to find one who won't follow you around after you use her. Quote
BiBottomBoy Posted August 24, 2008 Author Posted August 24, 2008 I had a dream last night that Mark Phelps decided to go gay for pay. It was yummy. Quote
Guest havan Posted August 24, 2008 Posted August 24, 2008 "Everyone is at least a little bit bisexual" -- we believe this about the guys we want.But ourselves, we don't wanna hear a word about pussy. Beware ANY sentance that contains absolutes. Every rule has an exception... Except maybe this one. As to straight guys going gay for pay. You can tell with the beginners. When they hesitate just before going down on you, you can be pretty sure you got a novice. No matter how good they they get once they start. Course the really straight ones are those that react well when you tell em that really straight guys can't get hard when thinking about fucking guys and end up letting you fuck them so they can prove they're manly enough to take the pain. Of course I'm just kidding about all of the above. Quote